IRC Log for #openid on 2007-08-12

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  4. [00:25:25] <RichiH> is there any provision for foo@bar changing identity, i.e. another, different person getting foo@bar at some point?
  5. [00:25:55] <RichiH> SIGFPE: i demand an answer ;)
  6. [00:37:32] <keturn> huh what
  7. [00:39:11] <RichiH> keturn: foo@bar expires. another person takes up foo@bar a year later. how can i make sure they are different?
  8. [00:39:21] <RichiH> assuming i can control bar
  9. [00:40:57] <gregdh> if you control bar, then don't let anybody create a new identifier that has ever been used before
  10. [00:41:37] <keturn> for starters, can I assume you mean bar.com/foo ? (OpenID identifiers don't have @)
  11. [00:42:07] <RichiH> gregdh: well, that would be the trivial case, but assume it would not work?
  12. [00:42:15] <RichiH> keturn: argh, yes, sorry
  13. [00:52:34] <RichiH> so yes, let's say an id expires and someone else takes it up
  14. [00:53:01] <RichiH> are there any provisions to make that apparent? is any such feature planned in any future version?
  15. [00:56:23] <keturn> so, by "id expires", you mean that bar.com is something like livejournal.com, and the livejournal.com domain hasn't expired, but it has user accounts which expire, eventually get deleted, and may be taken by someone else?
  16. [00:59:29] <keturn> I mean, the real answer is, the identifier is, uh, the identifier, and applications only recognize identifiers, not "people."
  17. [01:00:09] <keturn> you can't give two people the same identifier and expect applications to tell them apart.
  18. [01:01:12] <keturn> doesn't work for e-mail addresses, doesn't work for HTTP URLs, doesn't work for kilobit public keys.
  19. [01:02:46] <keturn> i-names take care of some of this by issuing you both a human-readable identifier and a string-of-numbers identifier, on the theory that the human-readable one will be recycled while the string-of-numbers won't,
  20. [01:06:35] <RichiH> keturn: i was thinking about account numbers in the identifier URI, yes
  21. [01:11:59] <keturn> that works, as long as it doesn't make the identifier too intimidating. OpenID sites often allow displaying local nicknames instead of full identifiers and there are ways to reduce the number of times a user has to type their whole identifier in.
  22. [01:12:29] <keturn> but there will still be times when the whole thing is exposed.
  23. [01:55:46] <RichiH> hmmk
  24. [01:55:55] <RichiH> so typeability is a concern
  25. [01:59:32] <RichiH> are you aware of any ldap-based openid implementation?
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  33. [04:39:13] <VxJasonxV> RichiH, I know of a PAM implementation. Have you looked for an LDAP gateway library on openidenabled.com ?
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  46. [08:43:51] <RichiH> VxJasonxV: no, but i will do so, now. thanks :)
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  49. [08:57:40] <RichiH> seems not
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  57. [12:43:21] <Nomad> hi, any users of the open id php lib which is available under pear?
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  72. [20:49:50] <PovAddict> hello
  73. [20:50:31] <PovAddict> does the OpenID PHP library support nonces, to prevent replay attacks?
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  82. [22:03:04] <keturn> PovAddict: I know the one on openidenabled.com does, not sure about the others
  83. [22:03:19] <PovAddict> great; thanks
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