IRC Log for #openid on 2007-08-13
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trel1023 is Terrell Russell of http://claimID.com and http://weblog.terrellrussell.com
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- [18:05:13] <jibot>
cygnus is WorkerBee(name="Jonathan Daugherty", company="JanRain, Inc.")
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- [18:45:27] <openidpibbrelay>
<Rorek> Hello Freenode. This is Pibb.
- [18:46:53] <factoryjoe>
One small step for mankind, one giant leap for Pibb!
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- [19:00:21] <keturn>
woah. Hi Pibb.
- [19:00:59] <openidpibbrelay>
<Kevin Fox> Hi Keturn :)
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- [19:01:02] <jibot>
cygnus is WorkerBee(name="Jonathan Daugherty", company="JanRain, Inc.")
- [19:05:50] <factoryjoe>
openidpibbrelay: can you get actual usernames in channel?
- [19:05:51] <openidpibbrelay>
factoryjoe: Error: "can" is not a valid command.
- [19:05:59] <factoryjoe>
openidpibbrelay: help
- [19:06:01] <openidpibbrelay>
factoryjoe: (help [<plugin>] [<command>]) -- This command gives a useful description of what <command> does. <plugin> is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin.
- [19:06:08] <factoryjoe>
ummmm
- [19:07:03] <openidpibbrelay>
<cygnus> factoryjoe: "actual usernames"?
- [19:08:04] <rorek>
right now, there are no commands.
- [19:08:38] <rorek>
although it is supybot, and other plugins could be loaded.
- [19:08:40] <factoryjoe>
yeah like... the openidpibbrelay is weird coz it prefixes your message with usernames
- [19:08:49] <factoryjoe>
i guess it's a bot
- [19:08:56] <factoryjoe>
i was thinking like real presence
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- [19:09:36] <rorek>
It works the same way as IRC relays.
- [19:10:18] * cygnus nods, you can't really have "real presence"
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- [19:12:14] <tannerld>
this channel on the whole openID thing on the web?
- [19:12:24] <titel>
hi guys, I'm looking for ways to run my own openID server
- [19:12:29] <keturn>
well, you _could_, but it would require the IRC server not getting upset with you for connecting an arbitrary number of clients from one IP
- [19:12:37] <titel>
has anyone got any experience with this?
- [19:13:12] <factoryjoe>
ok ic
- [19:13:22] <factoryjoe>
ok
- [19:13:27] <factoryjoe>
i haven't done irc relays before
- [19:13:54] <tannerld>
let me get this straigh - openid has multile openid registration sites, but they all use the same db?
- [19:14:12] <titel>
hi guys, I'm looking for ways to run my own openID server; has anyone got any experience with this?
- [19:14:41] <cygnus>
tannerld: no, although they do use DNS, which is essentially a distributed database
- [19:15:27] <tannerld>
cygnus: so, theres different sites, but they all use the same technology and can be applied to any site that asks for your openid?
- [19:16:32] <cygnus>
they (hopefully) speak the same protocol, yes
- [19:17:11] <tannerld>
ok
- [19:17:16] <tannerld>
thanks - so confusing
- [19:17:27] <factoryjoe>
keturn: what's the pibb channel?
- [19:18:09] <keturn>
factoryjoe: the bot is relaying to the General thread on https://pibb.com/go/openid
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- [19:23:59] <tannerld>
cygnus: one more question; so you could have multiple openid accounts on different providers and not know it?
- [19:24:33] <cygnus>
no; every provider manages its own accounts
- [19:24:39] <cygnus>
but the namespace for those accounts is global, i.e., URLs.
- [19:25:04] <tannerld>
so.... tanner.x.com = tanner.y.com?
- [19:25:11] <cygnus>
no
- [19:25:13] <keturn>
if you had multiple accounts, there would be multiple URLs.
- [19:26:03] <nurv>
Hello Has anybody use moodle with OpenID? Is it working?
- [19:26:39] <cygnus>
nurv: I believe the folks at funnymonkey.com were doing stuff with Moodle and OpenID.
- [19:27:02] <cygnus>
nurv: but at any rate, the moodle project site is probably the best place to look for current status info.
- [19:27:35] <nurv>
there is plugin, but I don't know wheter it's working
- [19:27:46] <cygnus>
try it! :)
- [19:27:53] <openidpibbrelay>
<factoryjoe> ah so this is mirrored
- [19:28:13] <openidpibbrelay>
<factoryjoe> it'd be cool if, inside of pibb, IRC users were broken out to look like users
- [19:28:24] <openidpibbrelay>
<factoryjoe> instead of lumped together in the OpenID IRC Relay
- [19:28:52] <nurv>
cygnus, I Will! Just asking
- [19:30:55] <keturn>
factoryjoe: IRC's notion of users is so loose that's very tricky to do in a consistent way, because IRC clients can take any nick and change it at any point in the conversation. Special treatment for NickServ-registered users would get you a little farther, but...
- [19:31:55] <factoryjoe>
keturn: i see
- [19:32:06] <factoryjoe>
well... you have those icons in Pibb
- [19:32:07] <factoryjoe>
the anchors
- [19:32:12] <factoryjoe>
why not use an IRC icon?
- [19:36:22] <keturn>
the anchors are supposed to be anchored archive links. but, sure, it'd be possible to do something like that, maybe with what is currently the online-status dot.
- [19:38:45] <openidpibbrelay>
<factoryjoe> i see
- [19:38:47] <keturn>
it'd make the application a little more complicated, because you'd need to draw distinctions between IRC users and not-IRC users. That is, you probably couldn't add IRC users to a permanent contact list, or send messages to them while they were offline
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- [19:38:56] <openidpibbrelay>
<factoryjoe> i didn't get "the anchors" before
- [19:39:06] <openidpibbrelay>
<factoryjoe> sure
- [19:39:16] <keturn>
you'd have to understand that IRC users cannot follow conversations in non-relayed threads, etc
- [19:39:17] <openidpibbrelay>
<factoryjoe> well, unless or until you built some kind of real 1-1 IRC bridge instead of just a relay
- [19:39:28] <openidpibbrelay>
<factoryjoe> mhmm
- [19:39:59] <openidpibbrelay>
<factoryjoe> well i like that the IRC relay is more of lounge
- [19:40:10] <openidpibbrelay>
<factoryjoe> we'll be using it as a backchannel
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- [20:27:08] <VxJasonxV>
creepy
- [20:27:28] <openidpibbrelay>
<VxJasonxV> creepy indeed
- [20:27:31] <VxJasonxV>
mwahahahaha
- [20:27:39] <openidpibbrelay>
<VxJasonxV> cute, very cute.
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- [21:08:31] <GabeW>
hup yup
- [21:08:48] <openidpibbrelay>
<factoryjoe> heh
- [21:08:49] <openidpibbrelay>
<factoryjoe> hey gabew
- [21:09:05] <GabeW>
oh this is spooky
- [21:09:13] <factoryjoe>
someone already said that
- [21:09:42] <GabeW>
i believe it was "creepy", not "spooky"
- [21:09:49] <GabeW>
oh
- [21:09:59] <GabeW>
and wasn't it me saying that there shoudl be a irc-pibb bridge?
- [21:10:47] <factoryjoe>
i don't know
- [21:10:54] <factoryjoe>
i've been pushing it for months
- [21:11:10] <factoryjoe>
was pushing it with tangler before
- [21:11:22] <GabeW>
heeh
- [21:11:23] <GabeW>
yah
- [21:11:33] <factoryjoe>
fyi: https://pibb.com/go/oauth
- [21:14:15] <GabeW>
ok
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- [23:59:33] <keturn>
(catching up on specs-list) "Also, bear in mind that there is no certification body, if you don't want to support URLs that contain vowels, we could do no more than glare at you." -- Joseph Holsten
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