IRC Log for #openid on 2007-08-13
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- [03:36:31] <jibot> 
trel1023 is Terrell Russell of http://claimID.com and http://weblog.terrellrussell.com
 
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- [18:05:13] <jibot> 
cygnus is WorkerBee(name="Jonathan Daugherty", company="JanRain, Inc.")
 
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- [18:45:27] <openidpibbrelay> 
<Rorek> Hello Freenode.  This is Pibb.
 
- [18:46:53] <factoryjoe> 
One small step for mankind, one giant leap for Pibb!
 
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- [19:00:21] <keturn> 
woah.  Hi Pibb.
 
- [19:00:59] <openidpibbrelay> 
<Kevin Fox> Hi Keturn :)
 
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- [19:01:02] <jibot> 
cygnus is WorkerBee(name="Jonathan Daugherty", company="JanRain, Inc.")
 
- [19:05:50] <factoryjoe> 
openidpibbrelay: can you get actual usernames in channel?
 
- [19:05:51] <openidpibbrelay> 
factoryjoe: Error: "can" is not a valid command.
 
- [19:05:59] <factoryjoe> 
openidpibbrelay: help
 
- [19:06:01] <openidpibbrelay> 
factoryjoe: (help [<plugin>] [<command>]) -- This command gives a useful description of what <command> does. <plugin> is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin.
 
- [19:06:08] <factoryjoe> 
ummmm
 
- [19:07:03] <openidpibbrelay> 
<cygnus> factoryjoe: "actual usernames"?
 
- [19:08:04] <rorek> 
right now, there are no commands.
 
- [19:08:38] <rorek> 
although it is supybot, and other plugins could be loaded.
 
- [19:08:40] <factoryjoe> 
yeah like... the openidpibbrelay is weird coz it prefixes your message with usernames
 
- [19:08:49] <factoryjoe> 
i guess it's a bot
 
- [19:08:56] <factoryjoe> 
i was thinking like real presence
 
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- [19:09:36] <rorek> 
It works the same way as IRC relays.
 
- [19:10:18] * cygnus nods, you can't really have "real presence"
 
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- [19:12:14] <tannerld> 
this channel on the whole openID thing on the web?
 
- [19:12:24] <titel> 
hi guys, I'm looking for ways to run my own openID server
 
- [19:12:29] <keturn> 
well, you _could_, but it would require the IRC server not getting upset with you for connecting an arbitrary number of clients from one IP
 
- [19:12:37] <titel> 
has anyone got any experience with this?
 
- [19:13:12] <factoryjoe> 
ok ic
 
- [19:13:22] <factoryjoe> 
ok
 
- [19:13:27] <factoryjoe> 
i haven't done irc relays before
 
- [19:13:54] <tannerld> 
let me get this straigh - openid has multile openid registration sites, but they all use the same db?
 
- [19:14:12] <titel> 
hi guys, I'm looking for ways to run my own openID server; has anyone got any experience with this?
 
- [19:14:41] <cygnus> 
tannerld: no, although they do use DNS, which is essentially a distributed database
 
- [19:15:27] <tannerld> 
cygnus: so, theres different sites, but they all use the same technology and can be applied to any site that asks for your openid?
 
- [19:16:32] <cygnus> 
they (hopefully) speak the same protocol, yes
 
- [19:17:11] <tannerld> 
ok
 
- [19:17:16] <tannerld> 
thanks - so confusing
 
- [19:17:27] <factoryjoe> 
keturn: what's the pibb channel?
 
- [19:18:09] <keturn> 
factoryjoe: the bot is relaying to the General thread on https://pibb.com/go/openid
 
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- [19:23:59] <tannerld> 
cygnus: one more question; so you could have multiple openid accounts on different providers and not know it?
 
- [19:24:33] <cygnus> 
no; every provider manages its own accounts
 
- [19:24:39] <cygnus> 
but the namespace for those accounts is global, i.e., URLs.
 
- [19:25:04] <tannerld> 
so.... tanner.x.com = tanner.y.com?
 
- [19:25:11] <cygnus> 
no
 
- [19:25:13] <keturn> 
if you had multiple accounts, there would be multiple URLs.
 
- [19:26:03] <nurv> 
Hello Has anybody use moodle with OpenID? Is it working?
 
- [19:26:39] <cygnus> 
nurv: I believe the folks at funnymonkey.com were doing stuff with Moodle and OpenID.
 
- [19:27:02] <cygnus> 
nurv: but at any rate, the moodle project site is probably the best place to look for current status info.
 
- [19:27:35] <nurv> 
there is plugin, but I don't know wheter it's working
 
- [19:27:46] <cygnus> 
try it! :)
 
- [19:27:53] <openidpibbrelay> 
<factoryjoe> ah so this is mirrored
 
- [19:28:13] <openidpibbrelay> 
<factoryjoe> it'd be cool if, inside of pibb, IRC users were broken out to look like users
 
- [19:28:24] <openidpibbrelay> 
<factoryjoe> instead of lumped together in the OpenID IRC Relay
 
- [19:28:52] <nurv> 
cygnus, I Will! Just asking
 
- [19:30:55] <keturn> 
factoryjoe: IRC's notion of users is so loose that's very tricky to do in a consistent way, because IRC clients can take any nick and change it at any point in the conversation.  Special treatment for NickServ-registered users would get you a little farther, but...
 
- [19:31:55] <factoryjoe> 
keturn: i see
 
- [19:32:06] <factoryjoe> 
well... you have those icons in Pibb
 
- [19:32:07] <factoryjoe> 
the anchors
 
- [19:32:12] <factoryjoe> 
why not use an IRC icon?
 
- [19:36:22] <keturn> 
the anchors are supposed to be anchored archive links.  but, sure, it'd be possible to do something like that, maybe with what is currently the online-status dot.
 
- [19:38:45] <openidpibbrelay> 
<factoryjoe> i see
 
- [19:38:47] <keturn> 
it'd make the application a little more complicated, because you'd need to draw distinctions between IRC users and not-IRC users.  That is, you probably couldn't add IRC users to a permanent contact list, or send messages to them while they were offline
 
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- [19:38:56] <openidpibbrelay> 
<factoryjoe> i didn't get "the anchors" before
 
- [19:39:06] <openidpibbrelay> 
<factoryjoe> sure
 
- [19:39:16] <keturn> 
you'd have to understand that IRC users cannot follow conversations in non-relayed threads, etc
 
- [19:39:17] <openidpibbrelay> 
<factoryjoe> well, unless or until you built some kind of real 1-1 IRC bridge instead of just a relay
 
- [19:39:28] <openidpibbrelay> 
<factoryjoe> mhmm
 
- [19:39:59] <openidpibbrelay> 
<factoryjoe> well i like that the IRC relay is more of lounge
 
- [19:40:10] <openidpibbrelay> 
<factoryjoe> we'll be using it as a backchannel
 
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- [20:27:08] <VxJasonxV> 
creepy
 
- [20:27:28] <openidpibbrelay> 
<VxJasonxV> creepy indeed
 
- [20:27:31] <VxJasonxV> 
mwahahahaha
 
- [20:27:39] <openidpibbrelay> 
<VxJasonxV> cute, very cute.
 
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- [21:08:31] <GabeW> 
hup yup
 
- [21:08:48] <openidpibbrelay> 
<factoryjoe> heh
 
- [21:08:49] <openidpibbrelay> 
<factoryjoe> hey gabew
 
- [21:09:05] <GabeW> 
oh this is spooky
 
- [21:09:13] <factoryjoe> 
someone already said that
 
- [21:09:42] <GabeW> 
i believe it was "creepy", not "spooky"
 
- [21:09:49] <GabeW> 
oh
 
- [21:09:59] <GabeW> 
and wasn't it me saying that there shoudl be a  irc-pibb bridge?
 
- [21:10:47] <factoryjoe> 
i don't know
 
- [21:10:54] <factoryjoe> 
i've been pushing it for months
 
- [21:11:10] <factoryjoe> 
was pushing it with tangler before
 
- [21:11:22] <GabeW> 
heeh
 
- [21:11:23] <GabeW> 
yah
 
- [21:11:33] <factoryjoe> 
fyi: https://pibb.com/go/oauth
 
- [21:14:15] <GabeW> 
ok
 
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- [23:59:33] <keturn> 
(catching up on specs-list) "Also, bear in mind that there is no certification body, if you don't want to support URLs that contain vowels, we could do no more than glare at you." -- Joseph Holsten
 
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