IRC Log for #openid on 2007-09-15
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- [00:19:05] <_keturn>
bcmath is so slow. a full test run (on 12 different instances of PHP) still takes at least eleven minutes. :-(
- [00:19:40] <_keturn>
but, the good news is, php 5.2 probably didn't break our libs. hoorj.
- [00:20:46] <_keturn>
I should find another builder to offload some of those tests on
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- [09:25:20] * SignpostMarv pokes his head in to see if there any BotBouncer devs in the room
- [09:28:16] <openid_pibb>
<Blueberry> Hi SignpostMarv
- [09:28:28] <SignpostMarv>
boo
- [09:28:36] <openid_pibb>
<Blueberry> There are a lot of JanRain staff around these parts :)
- [09:28:47] <openid_pibb>
<Blueberry> Though they look to be somewhat idle at the moment
- [09:28:50] <SignpostMarv>
heh
- [09:29:45] * SignpostMarv wanted to know what the likelihood of JanRain releasing a mod of wpopenid that used the botbouncer API was so he wouldn't have to mod it himself
- [09:31:03] <openid_pibb>
<Blueberry> Is that even JanRain's product?
- [09:31:08] <SignpostMarv>
nope
- [09:31:18] <SignpostMarv>
:P
- [09:31:35] <SignpostMarv>
http://sourceforge.net/projects/wpopenid/
- [09:31:52] <SignpostMarv>
^allows local account creation on wp blogs via OpenID
- [09:32:07] <openid_pibb>
<Blueberry> I think you'll have to mod it, then you can release it!
- [09:32:10] <SignpostMarv>
would be nice to route stuff through botbouncer, but that may be a bit beyond me :-P
- [09:32:18] <openid_pibb>
<Blueberry> Yes, I use it on my own website :)
- [09:33:02] * SignpostMarv pokes his head in #wordpress
- [09:34:24] <SignpostMarv>
come to think of it, a SpamKarma 2 plugin using botbouncer would rawk as well
- [09:35:06] <openid_pibb>
<Blueberry> unfortunatly for you, like most of freenode, we're here to help each other, not do free work
- [09:35:15] <SignpostMarv>
lol :-P
- [09:35:35] <SignpostMarv>
the phrase "point me in the right direction for modding wpopenid" had come to mind
- [09:35:54] <SignpostMarv>
but if JanRain are working on that already, I'd rather wait for them to finish it :-D
- [09:36:19] <openid_pibb>
<Blueberry> I strongly expect they aren't
- [09:36:54] * SignpostMarv goes back to poking around Sandbox v0.9.7 wondering where the hell the skins menu went
- [09:38:20] <SignpostMarv>
odd. seems to have gone backwards from having a menu to making peeps change the files
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- [10:37:52] <SignpostMarv>
you still there Blueberry ?
- [10:42:14] * SignpostMarv is about to test the wpopenid mod
- [10:50:07] <SignpostMarv>
okay, it kinda worked but not
- [10:50:27] <SignpostMarv>
$this->start_login( $_POST['openid_url'], 'http://botbouncer.com/captcha/queryuser?return_to=' . urlencode($redirect_to) . '&openid=' . $_POST['openid_url'] );
- [10:50:33] <SignpostMarv>
line 257, openid-registration.php
- [10:50:42] <SignpostMarv>
ends up going to botbouncer.comwp-admin
- [10:51:06] * SignpostMarv thinx it needs an absolute url for $redirect_to
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- [10:56:59] <Getty>
still not started playing around with it
- [10:57:05] <Getty>
still interested how that sso stuff works :)
- [10:57:11] <SignpostMarv>
??
- [10:57:53] <Getty>
you kn0w
- [10:57:56] <Getty>
?
- [10:58:28] <Getty>
in some of this lots and lots of readmes i found something that openid also is able of SSO
- [10:58:37] <Getty>
but i cant think about the concept how that is supposed to work
- [10:59:07] * SignpostMarv wonders if Getty means single sign-on
- [10:59:17] <Getty>
yeah thats SSO :)
- [10:59:26] <Getty>
is there something else it means?
- [10:59:39] <SignpostMarv>
Sanitary swere overflow
- [10:59:43] <SignpostMarv>
senior scientific officier
- [10:59:44] <Getty>
LOL
- [10:59:48] <SignpostMarv>
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SSO
- [10:59:48] <Getty>
yeah
- [10:59:49] <SignpostMarv>
:-P
- [10:59:52] <Getty>
hehe
- [10:59:54] <Getty>
so you know?
- [10:59:56] <SignpostMarv>
sewer*
- [11:00:04] <SignpostMarv>
basically,
- [11:00:09] <SignpostMarv>
using OpenID,
- [11:00:18] <SignpostMarv>
you don't have to create an account on a 3rd party service
- [11:00:21] <SignpostMarv>
you use your own
- [11:00:25] <SignpostMarv>
to sign into theirs
- [11:00:26] <Getty>
yeah clear
- [11:00:29] <Getty>
yeah clear
- [11:00:32] <Getty>
but how that SSO works?
- [11:01:03] <Getty>
technical the only thought i can have about it, is some parameter you give to the site you want to SSO to
- [11:01:06] <SignpostMarv>
single sign-on would be you using the same (your) OpenID for all sites
- [11:01:19] <Getty>
yeah but SSO means also: one time password enter
- [11:01:34] <Getty>
i give the pw on site one, and being logged in on site 2, 3, 4...
- [11:01:36] <SignpostMarv>
you don't need to use passwords with OpenID :-P
- [11:02:01] <Getty>
the regular stupid user got a pw, or?
- [11:02:11] <Getty>
i mean we will just use openid as layer, the user got his username/password field
- [11:02:23] <Getty>
my point is just that i need to link now 3-4 sites to be a SSO
- [11:02:24] <SignpostMarv>
the only password you'd ever need is the password to log into your OpenID
- [11:02:39] <Getty>
but how does the site 2 know that its me?
- [11:02:47] <SignpostMarv>
the only reason you need a password is to prove that you own the username you're putting in
- [11:02:54] <Getty>
yeah clear
- [11:02:56] <SignpostMarv>
but the OpenID protocol takes care of that step
- [11:02:58] <Getty>
forget about "your openid"
- [11:03:07] <Getty>
its abstracted through the interface of us
- [11:03:10] <SignpostMarv>
so you don't need to add another password into the mix
- [11:03:14] <Getty>
yeah whatever
- [11:03:18] <Getty>
still the question is open
- [11:03:24] <Getty>
the user logons on site 1
- [11:03:30] <Getty>
and now changes the url to site 2
- [11:03:37] <Getty>
how does site 2 know he is logged in? TECHNICAL
- [11:03:57] <SignpostMarv>
runs through the OpenID protocol.
- [11:04:08] <SignpostMarv>
if they've set the trust root for site 2 to "always allow"
- [11:04:10] <Getty>
mh?!
- [11:04:18] <SignpostMarv>
then they'll get redirected back to site 2 and be "logged in"
- [11:04:32] <Getty>
so the user still must to push "login"?
- [11:04:39] <SignpostMarv>
nope
- [11:04:44] <Getty>
but technical not entering a username/password cause ....
- [11:04:53] <Getty>
ok what he needs todo then? what the server does to check?
- [11:04:58] <Getty>
i mean i got "nothing" of the user beside the IP
- [11:05:03] <Getty>
do i send the IP to the OpenID root?
- [11:05:47] <SignpostMarv>
if you've got nothing to relate the visitor to an OpenID, they'd have to click a login button
- [11:05:58] <Getty>
AAHHHH!!!
- [11:06:13] <Getty>
thats not the SSO i need
- [11:06:16] <Getty>
bad
- [11:06:36] <SignpostMarv>
OpenID is distributed, not centralised
- [11:06:57] <Getty>
yeah hey, i just read it, and SSO regulary means exact this in any other system, so i hoped about some cool trick
- [11:09:25] <openid_pibb>
<Blueberry> The user needs to tell their openid name to a site before it can recognise them
- [11:10:00] <Getty>
but thats all then...
- [11:10:02] <SignpostMarv>
then you'd just store a cookie, and each subsequent visit would be auto-magical :-P
- [11:10:17] <openid_pibb>
<Blueberry> from then on, that site can ask their identity provider "Is this guy really blah.example.com?", their provider checks by having that site redirect this user to them, then it instantly redirects them back and lets that site know, thus, authenticating the user
- [11:10:31] <Getty>
yeah clear
- [11:10:49] <openid_pibb>
<Blueberry> god you have such a jerk way of talking, getty
- [11:10:52] <Getty>
so i just need for example add openid id to the links to the "partnersites"
- [11:10:59] <openid_pibb>
<Blueberry> are you really in such a rush/that lazy?
- [11:11:19] <openid_pibb>
<Blueberry> ... no
- [11:11:21] <Getty>
no i'm just a professional how wanted to know one detail without getting into openid totally
- [11:11:30] <openid_pibb>
<Blueberry> who you tell people your partners are has nothing to do with anything
- [11:11:34] <Getty>
Blueberry: if i made some code at the partnersite that checks that? ;)
- [11:11:46] <Getty>
(i am the partnersites)
- [11:11:52] <openid_pibb>
<Blueberry> what?
- [11:12:02] <openid_pibb>
<Blueberry> what is 'the partnersites'?
- [11:12:07] * SignpostMarv doesn't think Getty groks OpenID
- [11:12:12] <Getty>
the sites that all want to have together one SSO
- [11:12:30] <SignpostMarv>
Getty has a bunch of non-integrated websites he's wanting to do a single sign-on for
- [11:12:34] <openid_pibb>
<Blueberry> OpenID is not at all about that
- [11:12:34] <SignpostMarv>
is what i'm hearing
- [11:12:34] <Getty>
i get what openID means, i need that feature anyway, but i think about if i could make my SSO also on OpenID beside doing something on my own
- [11:12:44] <openid_pibb>
<Blueberry> OpenID is about having one username for the whole of the internet
- [11:12:48] <Getty>
yeah of course
- [11:12:52] <Getty>
thats why i implement it anyway
- [11:12:53] <Getty>
thats clear
- [11:12:54] <openid_pibb>
<Blueberry> not having one username for just a few partnered sites
- [11:12:57] <Getty>
thats understandable and all
- [11:13:02] <Getty>
i dont talk about if i use openid or not
- [11:13:10] <Getty>
i just talk how much openid helps me on my SSO problem
- [11:13:12] <Getty>
nothing more
- [11:13:15] <openid_pibb>
<Blueberry> Getty, just make your own sign on system if thats what you want
- [11:13:33] <Getty>
i guess what you told me is enugh hint for making OpenID a bit support on that problem for me
- [11:13:44] <Getty>
i even could handle that directly in the apache
- [11:13:48] <openid_pibb>
<Blueberry> your sso problem is stupid, it's exactly what openid is here to avoid
- [11:13:57] <Getty>
so that its native doesnt care what site the user access (and what system stands behind it)
- [11:14:05] <Getty>
mh???
- [11:14:11] <Getty>
i dont get what your problem is about that solution
- [11:14:18] <openid_pibb>
<Blueberry> just use the same database table for all your websites to handle logins, its not that hard..
- [11:14:19] <openid_pibb>
<Blueberry> sql can run over a network
- [11:14:25] <Getty>
thats not possible
- [11:14:34] <Getty>
we talk about.... "different companies" inside one company
- [11:14:38] <openid_pibb>
<Blueberry> why not?
- [11:14:39] <Getty>
big papers
- [11:14:46] <SignpostMarv>
Blueberry: I've got the wpopenid mod working
- [11:14:49] <openid_pibb>
<Blueberry> fine, make a web service for it
- [11:14:59] <SignpostMarv>
$this->start_login( $_POST['openid_url'], 'http://botbouncer.com/captcha/queryuser?return_to=' . urlencode(get_settings('home') . '/' . $redirect_to) . '&openid=' . $_POST['openid_url'] );
- [11:15:10] <openid_pibb>
<Blueberry> signpost: Funky!
- [11:15:17] <Getty>
Blueberry: that will also be added yes, but actually i dont need todo that much if i make the openid concept into it :-P
- [11:15:19] * SignpostMarv blogs it
- [11:15:42] <openid_pibb>
<Blueberry> Give us the link when you've hit Publish!
- [11:15:44] <Getty>
if we are at the theme right now
- [11:15:45] <Getty>
wp
- [11:15:57] <Getty>
if the user logins into the site, he should also be loggined to the wp :)
- [11:16:03] <openid_pibb>
<Blueberry> OpenID is an incredibly overcomplicated and supurflous protocol for what you want
- [11:16:08] <Getty>
but i guess THIS is still my totally own problem :)
- [11:16:20] <Getty>
Blueberry: think abou it: i already use openid in that case then
- [11:16:30] <Getty>
Blueberry: i dont do it with openid cause i want todo it with openid
- [11:16:38] <Getty>
Blueberry: but why add something more, if what i already got can help me???
- [11:16:47] <openid_pibb>
<Blueberry> you'd be better off trying in #php or whatever your server side language of choice is on this issue of website integration
- [11:16:51] <Getty>
Blueberry: OpenID is _fixed_ in the project
- [11:16:59] <Getty>
i dont have problems on the integration thx
- [11:17:04] <Getty>
i know what i'm doing thx
- [11:17:15] <Getty>
i just need some technical concept details i now know
- [11:17:30] <openid_pibb>
<Blueberry> Then what are you doing here? just clearing your lungs?
- [11:17:41] <openid_pibb>
<Blueberry> the openid website has all the specs you need
- [11:18:08] <Getty>
no it hasnt
- [11:18:16] <Getty>
there is not one technical documentation about how the SSO is "thought"
- [11:18:18] <Getty>
thats why i was here
- [11:18:32] <Getty>
there is just one sentence that says: SSO is possible with it
- [11:18:35] <Getty>
and i just thought how they make it
- [11:18:50] <Getty>
and now you both told me that what i thought: its not really SSO, so i have to trick
- [11:18:54] <openid_pibb>
<Blueberry> OpenID is a system of global single sign on
- [11:19:04] <Getty>
and then i stayed here cause we was talking, and i'm regulary that friendly to answer people
- [11:19:04] <openid_pibb>
<Blueberry> you use one sign on, globally
- [11:19:14] <Getty>
yeah... oh man ok again for you:
- [11:19:15] <openid_pibb>
<Blueberry> it is exactly what openid is
- [11:19:19] <Getty>
i ANYWAY MUST use OpenID
- [11:19:25] <openid_pibb>
<Blueberry> what you want seems more like kind of sort of single sign on, but only if you only ever use my sites!
- [11:19:30] <Getty>
and if the pages of OpenID tells me: YOU CAN DO SSO
- [11:19:40] <Getty>
could it be that i'm interested in how, if i need to implement SSO?
- [11:19:44] <Getty>
is that so unlogical?
- [11:19:46] <openid_pibb>
<Blueberry> which openid can surely do
- [11:19:56] <openid_pibb>
<Blueberry> but the whole point of openid is to avoid situations like that
- [11:20:06] <openid_pibb>
<Blueberry> SSO is just a buzzword
- [11:20:06] <Getty>
that is not mentioned in the pages of openid
- [11:20:10] <Getty>
yeah but its in the page
- [11:20:11] <Getty>
sorry :)
- [11:20:17] <openid_pibb>
<Blueberry> its no magic technology
- [11:20:18] <openid_pibb>
<Blueberry> it comes for free
- [11:20:19] <Getty>
i would not asked for that if it wasnt mentioned
- [11:20:24] <Getty>
got it?
- [11:20:28] <Getty>
so dont blame me
- [11:21:09] <openid_pibb>
<Blueberry> I'm not blaming you for anything except making unnecessary noise and wanting us to personally explain a buzzword to you
- [11:21:19] <Getty>
NO
- [11:21:24] <Getty>
i dotn wanted to get a buzzword explained
- [11:21:27] <Getty>
sorry you totally misget me
- [11:21:41] <openid_pibb>
<Blueberry> SSO is like AJAX, its not an actual thing, just a buzzword for a bunch of other stuff that already exists
- [11:21:41] <Getty>
i just wanted to know what SSO means in OpenID context, what OpenID offers on the concept which could help me
- [11:21:44] <Getty>
I KNOW SSO
- [11:21:49] <SignpostMarv>
http://blog.signpostmarv.name/2007/09/15/modding-wpopenid-to-use-botbouncer/
- [11:21:51] <Getty>
i already implemented SSO in several server sites
- [11:21:59] <Getty>
in several contextes in several situations
- [11:22:03] <Getty>
but i never implemented OpeNID
- [11:22:08] <Getty>
but i need to make a plan
- [11:22:12] <Getty>
you know, planing, long time
- [11:22:23] <openid_pibb>
<Blueberry> It's rather easy with your terrible spelling and overuse of abbreviations and occasional complete lack of any grammar at all
- [11:22:28] <Getty>
if openid helps me on SSO, i implement first OpenID and than SSO
- [11:22:33] <openid_pibb>
<Blueberry> Thanks SignpostMarv
- [11:22:39] <Getty>
if it not helps me, i will go straight forward to SSO
- [11:22:46] <Getty>
LOL
- [11:22:55] <Getty>
sorry that i'm not a native english speaking guy
- [11:23:07] <Getty>
oh please please big god of english grammar, shame on me
- [11:23:37] <openid_pibb>
<Blueberry> not being a native english speaker doesn't force you to use nonexistant words like 'thx'
- [11:23:43] <Getty>
????????
- [11:23:51] <Getty>
what an asshole you are?
- [11:24:05] <Getty>
its one of the most used shortage even of native english speaking people
- [11:24:11] <Getty>
oh man
- [11:24:19] <Getty>
bad that i cant ignore you ;) you would now be on
- [11:24:28] <SignpostMarv>
it's annoying even from native english users Getty
- [11:24:30] <openid_pibb>
<Blueberry> Only really among kids..
- [11:24:38] <Getty>
SignpostMarv: yeah could be
- [11:24:38] <SignpostMarv>
ZOMGWTFBBQKTHXBAI
- [11:24:39] <SignpostMarv>
:-P
- [11:24:48] <Getty>
SignpostMarv: any channel has another policy about that
- [11:25:08] <Getty>
SignpostMarv: and since my 12 years of IRC, i can say, that most channel really doesnt care about it
- [11:25:23] <Getty>
SignpostMarv: its even accepted in non-english channels just as regular word
- [11:25:44] <openid_pibb>
<Blueberry> Look getty, if you want free support from people who have absolutely no motivation to give it aside from pure kindness, you should show some respect and try to be as polite as possible
- [11:25:45] <Getty>
SignpostMarv: but hey, you guys talk all aggressive and attacking, so have fun on that ;)
- [11:25:55] <Getty>
yeah whatever you say idiot
- [11:25:58] <Getty>
i dont care about you
- [11:26:02] <SignpostMarv>
corruption of the english language doesn't help you communicate when english isn't your first language Getty
- [11:26:13] <Getty>
LOL
- [11:26:24] <Getty>
you are crazy guys ;) ok i hope for you you never need jquery support
- [11:26:31] <Getty>
you will get my package :)
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- [11:26:40] <SignpostMarv>
o_O
- [11:27:17] <openid_pibb>
<Blueberry> what, you're going to get the whole jquery community to boycott anyone with a relation to OpenID?
- [11:27:21] * SignpostMarv thinks Getty subscribes to icanhascheezburger.com
- [11:27:49] <openid_pibb>
<Blueberry> ** Blueberry thinks many things she would not say
- [11:28:33] <SignpostMarv>
now all I needs to do is figure out how to add whitelisting to wpopenid :-3
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- [11:30:53] <saamy>
i don't believe in openid
- [11:31:16] <saamy>
i don't see how it can be feasible
- [11:31:18] <openid_pibb>
<Blueberry> saamy: Fair enough :)
- [11:31:51] <openid_pibb>
<Blueberry> Well, at the moment it seems there are plenty of companies happy to be an id server and not so many wanting to be consumers
- [11:31:51] <saamy>
sorta attempting to do the impossible. give people an online fingerprint
- [11:32:01] <openid_pibb>
<Blueberry> unfortunately its just too good for business to not own your idea
- [11:32:02] * SignpostMarv pokes saamy in the direction of http://simonwillison.net/2006/openid-screencast/
- [11:32:11] <openid_pibb>
<Blueberry> identity*
- [11:32:23] <saamy>
ah wel
- [11:32:33] <openid_pibb>
<Blueberry> but for small groups, forums, blogs, its a great thing and getting wide adoption
- [11:32:50] <saamy>
how does openid choose which sites they want to affiliate with
- [11:33:00] <saamy>
or is it the sites that choose affiliation with openid
- [11:33:05] <openid_pibb>
<Blueberry> it really doesn't matter if you need a login to get in to something bit like myspace if openid can help you cut through all the little things demanding your logins in between
- [11:33:15] <openid_pibb>
<Blueberry> openid is not a group, its a protocol
- [11:33:15] <SignpostMarv>
"affiliation" is the incorrect term to use here I believe
- [11:33:25] <saamy>
where is the username/pass etc stored then
- [11:33:26] <openid_pibb>
<Blueberry> like http, anyone is free to implement it and it cannot be controlled
- [11:33:37] <openid_pibb>
<Blueberry> you choose who you want to store it
- [11:33:42] <saamy>
how so
- [11:33:47] * SignpostMarv has http://slopenid.net
- [11:33:58] <openid_pibb>
<Blueberry> if you like aol, your aol account can be used.. openid.aol.com/yourusername
- [11:33:58] <SignpostMarv>
it's an OpenID server based around WordPress:MU
- [11:34:15] <saamy>
hm
- [11:34:19] <openid_pibb>
<Blueberry> then you enter that to sites, and it asks aol if you're really you, aol says yay or nay
- [11:34:23] <SignpostMarv>
i can log into live journal with my.slopenid.net/signpostmarv-martin/
- [11:34:29] <openid_pibb>
<Blueberry> much like email
- [11:34:31] <SignpostMarv>
or my own blog
- [11:34:39] <SignpostMarv>
or my friends blogs
- [11:34:41] <saamy>
so similar to IRC?
- [11:34:47] <saamy>
various nodes supporting the same network
- [11:34:48] <SignpostMarv>
^because my friends use WordPress w/ wpopenid
- [11:34:51] <openid_pibb>
<Blueberry> Not at all
- [11:35:01] <openid_pibb>
<Blueberry> IRC has no authentication
- [11:35:45] <SignpostMarv>
OpenID is decentralised
- [11:36:04] <saamy>
ah well
- [11:36:04] <openid_pibb>
<Blueberry> if I go to jyte.com for example, I can login by entering creativepony.com, which is my openid
- [11:36:05] <openid_pibb>
<Blueberry> I use that like a username
- [11:36:09] <SignpostMarv>
your OpenID server of choice doesn't touch your OpenID supporting website of choice until you try to use one with the other
- [11:36:22] <saamy>
so if i want to make an openid now where do i go
- [11:36:25] <openid_pibb>
<Blueberry> jyte looks at the source to creativepony.com, then see's I use myopenid.net to handle my identity
- [11:36:28] <saamy>
and what sites / list of sites is there that i can use it on
- [11:36:46] <openid_pibb>
<Blueberry> jyte then has a quick chat with myopenid for a moment
- [11:36:48] <SignpostMarv>
saamy: you can go to one of the many OpenID providers,
- [11:36:51] <SignpostMarv>
or you can make your own :-P
- [11:36:58] <SignpostMarv>
like I have X-D
- [11:37:07] <openid_pibb>
<Blueberry> then it knows if it was me that entered it or someone trying to impersonate me, thanks to the magic of cookies or ssl, pick your poison :)
- [11:37:25] <saamy>
myopenid.com
- [11:37:38] <openid_pibb>
<Blueberry> sorry, yes
- [11:37:49] <openid_pibb>
<Blueberry> https://www.myopenid.com/directory is one such list
- [11:37:58] <saamy>
oh yeah
- [11:37:59] <saamy>
not bad
- [11:38:00] <openid_pibb>
<Blueberry> there can't really ever be a complete list though
- [11:38:05] <saamy>
what bigname sites use myopenid
- [11:38:07] <saamy>
i mean openid
- [11:38:25] <SignpostMarv>
WordPress.com
- [11:38:25] <saamy>
and whats the openid provider with shortest url lol
- [11:38:27] <SignpostMarv>
AOL
- [11:38:31] <SignpostMarv>
LiveJournal
- [11:38:32] <openid_pibb>
<Blueberry> aol, microsoft, yahoo soon, livejournal, sun microsystems
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- [11:39:56] <openid_pibb>
<Blueberry> just about any journal software these days support it, a lot of forums are working on it (phpbb for instance)
- [11:40:24] <SignpostMarv>
since WordPress can support OpenID logins via WPOpenID,
- [11:40:27] <openid_pibb>
<Blueberry> Digg is planning support just as soon as version 2.0 of openid gets out of draft (which is a bit like beta, but for protocols)
- [11:40:32] <SignpostMarv>
you can use bbPress with OpenID via WordPress :-P
- [11:41:02] <saamy>
oy :p
- [11:41:06] <saamy>
whats an openid provider with short url
- [11:41:19] <openid_pibb>
<Blueberry> use your own domain
- [11:41:29] <saamy>
?
- [11:41:41] <openid_pibb>
<Blueberry> then its as short as you can register :)
- [11:41:52] <openid_pibb>
<Blueberry> I have creativepony.com, my website, forward to myopenid for openid requests
- [11:42:02] <saamy>
oh. my urls long
- [11:42:02] <openid_pibb>
<Blueberry> all you need to do is add some meta tags
- [11:42:10] <saamy>
http://myid.net/
- [11:42:13] <openid_pibb>
<Blueberry> aww
- [11:42:30] <saamy>
is facebook a member
- [11:43:30] * SignpostMarv thinks saamy doesn't grok OpenID
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- [11:43:54] <SignpostMarv>
an OpenID providers have bugger all to do with each other, beyond the protocol they use
- [11:44:07] <SignpostMarv>
providers aren't "members" of OpenID
- [11:44:18] <saamy>
k
- [11:44:25] <saamy>
i mean does facebook support openid
- [11:44:36] <SignpostMarv>
no ide
- [11:44:39] <SignpostMarv>
idea*
- [11:44:44] * SignpostMarv doesn't use facebook
- [11:44:45] <SignpostMarv>
http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=facebook%20openid
- [11:44:51] <openid_pibb>
<Blueberry> they don't yet
- [11:45:01] <openid_pibb>
<Blueberry> Yeah, just like all the different websites around the world who use http to send you files, lots can use openid too!
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- [11:45:12] <openid_pibb>
<Blueberry> it doesn't make them at all related
- [11:45:29] <saamy>
gutts
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- [11:46:10] <StevenTyler>
hai
- [11:48:07] <StevenTyler>
bai bai 2 u
- [11:48:21] <openid_pibb>
<Blueberry> Bye o_o
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- [11:53:50] <saamy>
cya
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- [11:53:59] <openid_pibb>
<Blueberry> Bye!
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wow. It certainly was busy here 4-5 hours ago. go go timezones.
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<Matt Nordhoff> Delegating to multiple OpenID providers For Dummies?
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marclaporte is Marc Laporte from Tiki CMS/Groupware
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- [23:45:41] <VxJasonxV>
Matt Nordhoff: Research XRDS
- [23:46:54] <VxJasonxV>
There was some eSEO or eSSO (SSO for the enterprise) thing I saw in here, that supports OpenID for web signon services.
- [23:47:00] <VxJasonxV>
Anyone know what I'm talking about? I swear I saw it in here...
- [23:47:18] <openid_pibb>
<Matt Nordhoff> VxJasonxV: Yeah, I was hoping I could avoid a lot of thinking. There's already a huge pile of stuff I want to learn about OpenID and whatnot and I don't want to make it any larger.
- [23:47:38] <openid_pibb>
<Matt Nordhoff> Also, I don't know a lot of the terminology and stuff, so I'd have to learn half of it just to understand XRDS enough/
- [23:47:39] <openid_pibb>
<Matt Nordhoff> .
- [23:48:06] <VxJasonxV>
start with OpenID, get signed on with a single identity, then start learning how to spread it out
- [23:49:12] <openid_pibb>
<Matt Nordhoff> I've already started. Signed up at a provider or three, have the delegation <link> tag, but I'm only scraping the surface.
- [23:49:40] <VxJasonxV>
you're working in the right direction
- [23:50:06] <openid_pibb>
<Matt Nordhoff> Yeah.
- [23:51:09] <openid_pibb>
<Matt Nordhoff> I mean, I get how OpenID works, but the details are incomprehensible to me, and I don't want to have to start at the beginning and spend a long time learning it all. :P
- [23:51:27] <VxJasonxV>
just keep working with it, it'll come to you in time
- [23:52:12] <openid_pibb>
<Matt Nordhoff> I'm impatient. :P
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