IRC Log for #openid on 2007-09-25
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marclaporte is Marc Laporte from Tiki CMS/Groupware
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- [01:50:47] <melvster_>
france telekom - wow
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marclaporte is Marc Laporte from Tiki CMS/Groupware
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is there a good tutorial for getting an OpenId provider set up somewhere?
- [04:06:06] <IamEthos>
also, what protects an OpenId user from a provider selling off all of their information?
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hi all, is the mailing list somehow down?
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- [07:21:45] <dhofstet>
anyone an idea why I get "ext0" as namespace instead of "sreg" for SReg data in my response?
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- [14:24:19] <SignpostMarv>
anyone remember me asking about wpopenid before ?
- [14:26:39] <SignpostMarv>
http://blog.signpostmarv.name/tag/wpopenid/
- [14:26:50] * SignpostMarv got around to modding it to use the BotBouncer api
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- [14:29:29] <jibot>
marclaporte is Marc Laporte from Tiki CMS/Groupware
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- [15:39:45] <melvster>
hi all
- [15:42:51] <SignpostMarv>
boo
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- [15:48:49] <jibot>
marclaporte is Marc Laporte from Tiki CMS/Groupware
- [15:48:49] <melvster>
any news on the france telekom
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- [15:51:35] <melvster>
orange to adopt openid - ah
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- [15:55:17] <melvster>
http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/09/25/france-telecoms-orange-to-adopt-openid/
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- [15:56:46] <melvster>
pretty good news for openid!
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- [16:16:49] <melvster>
cant see any support on the .co.uk site
- [16:17:06] <melvster>
need to check my account details...
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- [17:50:38] <RobinVanPersie>
I've set up an openid server at home and have two (probably basic) questions.
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- [18:27:36] <melvster>
sure
- [18:27:40] <melvster>
what's your questions
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- [19:15:37] <RobinVanPersie>
How do I consolidate my openid-based logins?
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- [19:38:19] <melvster>
consolidate?
- [19:38:56] <melvster>
each URI should correspond to one login
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- [19:57:03] <RobinVanPersie>
melvter: i have some sites, I'm registered to as http://hdiwan.myopenid.com, now I've set up my home provider, I'd like to migrate the authentication over
- [19:58:43] <RobinVanPersie>
how do i do that?
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- [20:01:27] <jibot>
marclaporte is Marc Laporte from Tiki CMS/Groupware
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- [20:29:03] <melvster>
you need to change the head tags
- [20:29:45] <melvster>
see this:
- [20:29:47] <melvster>
<link href="http://www.myopenid.com/server" rel="openid.server"/>
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- [20:31:25] <melvster>
you need that to point to your own server
- [20:32:41] <melvster>
the best thing would be to use a URI that you have control over
- [20:32:53] <melvster>
or you can delegate your current idenity
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- [21:11:08] <RobinVanPersie>
How do I migrate my openid logins from myopenid.com to my own server??
- [21:11:14] <RobinVanPersie>
is that done on the site itself?
- [21:11:43] <melvster>
hi
- [21:11:57] <melvster>
i am not sure that it is possible
- [21:12:15] <melvster>
to migrate a login you need you need to control the head tag of the page
- [21:12:46] <RobinVanPersie>
melvster: That's an elementary design failure and I find it very difficult to believe that the openid spec hadn't covered this point
- [21:13:29] <melvster>
you could be right
- [21:13:41] <RobinVanPersie>
do you not see that?
- [21:13:45] <melvster>
see what?
- [21:14:15] <RobinVanPersie>
look, you have a distributed login system (OpenID)
- [21:14:22] <melvster>
sure
- [21:14:29] <melvster>
every open id is a URI
- [21:14:34] <RobinVanPersie>
don't you think there should be an easy way to move between various openid providers?
- [21:14:48] <melvster>
good question
- [21:14:59] <melvster>
i suppose it depends on the policy of the provider
- [21:15:00] <RobinVanPersie>
or are you telling me that once i've signed up with one provider, I'm stuck with it for life?
- [21:15:26] <melvster>
pretty much
- [21:15:40] <melvster>
my openid is melvster.com
- [21:15:47] <RobinVanPersie>
if you're right, then the spec has a big flaw in it
- [21:16:03] <melvster>
im not sure it's such a big flaw
- [21:16:23] <melvster>
you just need to choose your provider carefully
- [21:16:37] <RobinVanPersie>
melvster: my provider is myopenid.com
- [21:16:39] <melvster>
if they will let you change the head tag, then you can migrate your id
- [21:16:45] <RobinVanPersie>
do they allow you to migrate over?
- [21:16:54] <melvster>
sorry i dont know about that
- [21:17:12] <melvster>
you'd have to email the helpdesk
- [21:17:14] <RobinVanPersie>
you're a bit of a dimwit then, no?
- [21:17:47] <melvster>
well there's some people that know much more than me, you're right
- [21:18:27] <melvster>
but the principle of openid is that it scrapes the page that is your ID for a link tag
- [21:18:35] <melvster>
at least that's how it works for 1.1
- [21:18:41] <melvster>
new spec should be out soon
- [21:19:57] <RobinVanPersie>
it seems that this is not possible and I'm stuck using myopenid
- [21:20:21] <melvster>
that's why i have my own
- [21:20:57] <melvster>
why dont you make a new id under your home server?
- [21:21:17] <RobinVanPersie>
melvster: you are missing the point (again)
- [21:21:29] <RobinVanPersie>
I HAVE an id under my server
- [21:21:35] <melvster>
i see
- [21:21:56] <RobinVanPersie>
I'd LIKE to migrate sites under my old setup (using myopenid.com) to my new server
- [21:22:08] <RobinVanPersie>
hopefully that's clearer?
- [21:22:12] <melvster>
i understand
- [21:22:18] <melvster>
you want a portableID
- [21:22:32] <melvster>
im afraid that depends on the policy of your provider
- [21:23:26] <RobinVanPersie>
JanRain is the bunch that did myopenid.com
- [21:23:34] <melvster>
i think so
- [21:24:43] <RobinVanPersie>
melvster: I find it INCOMREHENSIBLE that this procedure is not documented ANYWHERE
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- [21:25:42] <melvster>
http://openid.net/specs/openid-authentication-1_1.html
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- [21:26:43] <melvster>
it's like email, at the end of the day you're using their service
- [21:27:01] <melvster>
so you have to adhere to their policy
- [21:27:39] <melvster>
you're free to set up your own, but if you use someone elses service, you have to check there policy
- [21:29:26] <melvster>
the problem is that an openid is a URI
- [21:29:37] <melvster>
so you're always going to hit their server
- [21:30:18] <RobinVanPersie>
and that does not even ATTEMPT to answer my question, melvster
- [21:30:27] <melvster>
sorry
- [21:30:37] <melvster>
so what primary key would you prefer for an openID?
- [21:30:52] <RobinVanPersie>
http://hdiwan.prolificprogrammer.com
- [21:31:06] <RobinVanPersie>
what I have right now is http://hdiwan.myopenid.com
- [21:32:58] <RobinVanPersie>
actually, prolificprgrammer.com is the openid i want
- [21:33:28] <melvster>
sounds like a good idea
- [21:33:36] <melvster>
you just need to add a link tag
- [21:33:38] <melvster>
and a server
- [21:34:03] <melvster>
then it will be your openid
- [21:34:22] <RobinVanPersie>
grr... you are missing the point (again)
- [21:34:27] <RobinVanPersie>
I know all that
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