IRC Log for #openid on 2007-09-27
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- [02:37:05] <openid_pibb>
<Blueberry> I can't figure this out guys
- [02:37:15] <openid_pibb>
<Blueberry> no matter what I do, the ruby openid library just says setup needed
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<Blueberry> but then setup_url is empty!
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<Blueberry> woah! woohoo!
- [03:11:36] <openid_pibb>
<Blueberry> It worked!
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marclaporte is Marc Laporte from Tiki CMS/Groupware
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- [12:10:26] <dhofstet>
anyone an idea what could be the problem that I get "Server responds that checkAuth call is not valid" when I run the "Successful checkid_setup (dumb mode)" test?
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the "Successful checkid_setup" test works fine
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<Blueberry> you better fix it, i'm using dumb mode in the site i'm making!
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marclaporte is Marc Laporte from Tiki CMS/Groupware
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- [17:16:33] <openid_pibb>
<Brian Ellin> hey blueberry, are you still having problems?
- [17:42:42] <openid_pibb>
<Kevin Fox> I think she got it all working
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- [18:17:50] <GabeW>
btw
- [18:18:16] <GabeW>
http://openid.net/pipermail/legal/2007-September/000032.html
- [18:18:24] <GabeW>
Draft OpenID Intellectual Property Rights Policy for Review
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- [18:20:02] * GabeW changes topic to 'http://openid.net - channel logged at http://rbach.priv.at/OpenID-IRC/ || OpenID IPR proposal review: http://xrl.us/6uh7 || JanRain dev list: http://xrl.us/vmtm || python-openid 2.0.1 @ http://alnk.org/cookylip'
- [18:20:26] <GabeW>
seriously, even you developers should review this stuff
- [18:20:35] <GabeW>
there's a good "Rationale" document
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- [20:12:09] <melvster>
nice post from david
- [20:24:32] <GabeW>
yes, we've been working on this IPR stuff for months - its been quiet since the folks involved are high profile
- [20:24:47] <GabeW>
and we could never assume it was all going to turn out for the best
- [20:25:09] <melvster>
and has it turned out for the best? :)
- [20:25:36] <GabeW>
i think so
- [20:26:00] <GabeW>
i mean, microsoft, sun, aol, yahoo!, symantec and verisign are all on board playing nice
- [20:26:05] <melvster>
great, so long as openid remains "open" i think everyone will be trilled
- [20:26:09] <GabeW>
and its a good compromise to make any process very "lightweight"
- [20:26:20] <GabeW>
so if you are participating in working ont he specs now
- [20:26:25] <GabeW>
there's not much thats going to change
- [20:26:29] <GabeW>
on a day to day basis
- [20:26:42] <GabeW>
which was my goal when I kicked it off
- [20:27:17] <melvster>
(thrilled)
- [20:27:58] <GabeW>
http://openid.net/wiki/index.php/Formal_Process states the goals I laid out
- [20:28:08] <GabeW>
specifically: http://openid.net/wiki/index.php/Formal_Process#Introduction_and_Goals
- [20:28:17] <GabeW>
the rest of that page is out of date now
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- [20:31:14] <melvster>
looks good
- [20:33:32] <GabeW>
i really am trying to get the community of developers to look at the proposal
- [20:33:47] <GabeW>
because it will affect them, if they are using or developing the specs
- [20:34:19] <melvster>
what are the major headlines?
- [20:34:35] <GabeW>
uh
- [20:34:46] <GabeW>
no surprises
- [20:34:48] <GabeW>
some process
- [20:34:50] <GabeW>
big companies happy
- [20:35:31] <GabeW>
maintains unencumbered specs as much as the organization can make that happen
- [20:35:34] <GabeW>
(ie can't deal with outsiders making patent claims)
- [20:35:46] <GabeW>
as open as any spec can be
- [20:35:59] <GabeW>
and any future work (extensions, etc) will be the same
- [20:36:20] <GabeW>
assuming they are done under the official banner of the openid community/organization
- [20:36:56] <GabeW>
i shouldn't say no surprises
- [20:37:02] <GabeW>
there were no surprises to me
- [20:37:13] <GabeW>
but I know this area well (standardsmaking)
- [20:37:28] <melvster>
great, i see that you were involved with xri/oasis
- [20:37:37] <GabeW>
s/were/are/
- [20:37:44] <GabeW>
i'm cochair of the XRI TC
- [20:37:46] <melvster>
sorry, that too
- [20:37:49] <GabeW>
tho
- [20:38:16] <GabeW>
thats tangential to my work on openid
- [20:38:19] <melvster>
so what about companies that build something on top of the OpenID spec?
- [20:38:25] <GabeW>
implementers
- [20:38:33] <GabeW>
there's a rationale document you should read first
- [20:38:43] <GabeW>
its written in non-legalese
- [20:39:31] <GabeW>
to be honest, I have to go back and reread the policy again because there was a lot of back and forth on various terms
- [20:39:39] <GabeW>
and I don't want to be stating the wrong result ;-)
- [20:40:08] <melvster>
no worries
- [20:40:35] <melvster>
ill take a look at the doc
- [20:40:54] <melvster>
but if the openid spec remains open, that's probably the best news all round
- [20:40:54] <GabeW>
cool, i just crashed firefox trying to print one of those docs
- [20:40:57] <GabeW>
yah
- [20:40:59] <GabeW>
of course!
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- [20:50:42] <GabeW>
seriously, if you only read one doc - read the rationale one
- [20:51:00] <GabeW>
but do read the others too!
- [20:51:20] <melvster>
sorry, do you have the link
- [20:51:24] <melvster>
or is it in the title?
- [20:51:39] <GabeW>
its in the topic
- [20:51:43] <melvster>
got it
- [20:51:45] <GabeW>
http://xrl.us/6uh7
- [20:51:45] <GabeW>
oh
- [20:51:49] <GabeW>
thats to the annoucement
- [20:51:51] <melvster>
http://openid.net/pipermail/legal/2007-September/000032.html
- [20:51:56] <melvster>
thanks!
- [20:51:57] <GabeW>
http://openid.net/ipr/
- [20:52:01] <GabeW>
ther's the docs
- [20:52:17] <melvster>
brilliant, thanks a lot
- [20:52:29] <melvster>
ill point people to the pages if anyone asks
- [20:52:50] <GabeW>
cool
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- [21:01:31] <jibot>
marclaporte is Marc Laporte from Tiki CMS/Groupware
- [21:03:26] <openid_pibb>
<Blueberry> yep brian, all is good now. the ruby openid library from janrain, the consumer specifically, doesn't seem to like the request params given by ruby's built in cgi support
- [21:03:38] <GabeW>
i, for one, appreciate the jibot announcements, for the record
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- [21:04:17] <GabeW>
?def AaronF
- [21:04:17] <jibot>
Nobody has defined AaronF yet
- [21:04:41] <AaronF>
that bot is on crack
- [21:04:48] <GabeW>
i just said
- [21:04:49] <AaronF>
?def GabeW
- [21:04:49] <openid_pibb>
<Blueberry> i tried giving it the cgi object, which has [] accessors for the request params, i then tried giving it cgi.params, which is a hash, keyed by request param name and then containing an array of all the values, even if there's only one
- [21:04:49] <jibot>
GabeW is in the Bay Area & XRI Oasis TC cochair & owner of http://uncorked.wachob.com & a Boalt Law School Grad & owner of http://www.wachob.com & =GabeW & coined Flash Slobs & CTO of http://www.amsoft.net & blogs at http://blog.wachob.com & "big daddy G" & also known as "The Afterburner"
- [21:04:51] <GabeW>
i, for one, appreciate the jibot announcements, for the record
- [21:05:07] <AaronF>
well, the last time I taught it
- [21:05:09] <openid_pibb>
<Blueberry> reasoning is so the scripts can handle things like check boxes and so forth
- [21:05:15] <AaronF>
it couldn't remember
- [21:05:42] <GabeW>
or someone nuked it
- [21:05:51] <openid_pibb>
<Blueberry> I ended up having to manually convert the cgi.params hash in to another hash with the arrays flattened in to strings
- [21:05:52] <GabeW>
its a social tagging bot
- [21:06:03] <AaronF>
nah they were having probs with it
- [21:06:06] <GabeW>
hah
- [21:06:09] <AaronF>
what's syntax again?
- [21:06:09] <GabeW>
yah, that too
- [21:06:15] <GabeW>
?help
- [21:06:18] <AaronF>
?help
- [21:06:31] <GabeW>
privmsg's you
- [21:06:47] <melvster>
?help
- [21:07:35] <melvster>
pretty cool desc, you could have wachob.com as your openid :)
- [21:08:12] <GabeW>
i could
- [21:08:20] <GabeW>
i could also have =gmw, which I actually do have
- [21:18:31] <melvster>
nice!
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?learn AaronF is a founder of MindTouch and blogs at http://oblogn.com and http://mindtouch.com/blog
- [21:31:00] <jibot>
AaronF is a founder of MindTouch and blogs at http://oblogn.com and http://mindtouch.com/blog
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