IRC Log for #openid on 2007-09-27

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  27. [02:37:05] <openid_pibb> <Blueberry> I can't figure this out guys
  28. [02:37:15] <openid_pibb> <Blueberry> no matter what I do, the ruby openid library just says setup needed
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  30. [02:37:26] <openid_pibb> <Blueberry> but then setup_url is empty!
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  33. [03:11:26] <openid_pibb> <Blueberry> woah! woohoo!
  34. [03:11:36] <openid_pibb> <Blueberry> It worked!
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  69. [12:10:26] <dhofstet> anyone an idea what could be the problem that I get "Server responds that checkAuth call is not valid" when I run the "Successful checkid_setup (dumb mode)" test?
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  71. [12:11:02] <dhofstet> the "Successful checkid_setup" test works fine
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  74. [12:19:43] <openid_pibb> <Blueberry> you better fix it, i'm using dumb mode in the site i'm making!
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  106. [17:16:33] <openid_pibb> <Brian Ellin> hey blueberry, are you still having problems?
  107. [17:42:42] <openid_pibb> <Kevin Fox> I think she got it all working
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  109. [18:17:50] <GabeW> btw
  110. [18:18:16] <GabeW> http://openid.net/pipermail/legal/2007-September/000032.html
  111. [18:18:24] <GabeW> Draft OpenID Intellectual Property Rights Policy for Review
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  113. [18:20:02] * GabeW changes topic to 'http://openid.net - channel logged at http://rbach.priv.at/OpenID-IRC/ || OpenID IPR proposal review: http://xrl.us/6uh7 || JanRain dev list: http://xrl.us/vmtm || python-openid 2.0.1 @ http://alnk.org/cookylip'
  114. [18:20:26] <GabeW> seriously, even you developers should review this stuff
  115. [18:20:35] <GabeW> there's a good "Rationale" document
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  122. [20:12:09] <melvster> nice post from david
  123. [20:24:32] <GabeW> yes, we've been working on this IPR stuff for months - its been quiet since the folks involved are high profile
  124. [20:24:47] <GabeW> and we could never assume it was all going to turn out for the best
  125. [20:25:09] <melvster> and has it turned out for the best? :)
  126. [20:25:36] <GabeW> i think so
  127. [20:26:00] <GabeW> i mean, microsoft, sun, aol, yahoo!, symantec and verisign are all on board playing nice
  128. [20:26:05] <melvster> great, so long as openid remains "open" i think everyone will be trilled
  129. [20:26:09] <GabeW> and its a good compromise to make any process very "lightweight"
  130. [20:26:20] <GabeW> so if you are participating in working ont he specs now
  131. [20:26:25] <GabeW> there's not much thats going to change
  132. [20:26:29] <GabeW> on a day to day basis
  133. [20:26:42] <GabeW> which was my goal when I kicked it off
  134. [20:27:17] <melvster> (thrilled)
  135. [20:27:58] <GabeW> http://openid.net/wiki/index.php/Formal_Process states the goals I laid out
  136. [20:28:08] <GabeW> specifically: http://openid.net/wiki/index.php/Formal_Process#Introduction_and_Goals
  137. [20:28:17] <GabeW> the rest of that page is out of date now
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  139. [20:31:14] <melvster> looks good
  140. [20:33:32] <GabeW> i really am trying to get the community of developers to look at the proposal
  141. [20:33:47] <GabeW> because it will affect them, if they are using or developing the specs
  142. [20:34:19] <melvster> what are the major headlines?
  143. [20:34:35] <GabeW> uh
  144. [20:34:46] <GabeW> no surprises
  145. [20:34:48] <GabeW> some process
  146. [20:34:50] <GabeW> big companies happy
  147. [20:35:31] <GabeW> maintains unencumbered specs as much as the organization can make that happen
  148. [20:35:34] <GabeW> (ie can't deal with outsiders making patent claims)
  149. [20:35:46] <GabeW> as open as any spec can be
  150. [20:35:59] <GabeW> and any future work (extensions, etc) will be the same
  151. [20:36:20] <GabeW> assuming they are done under the official banner of the openid community/organization
  152. [20:36:56] <GabeW> i shouldn't say no surprises
  153. [20:37:02] <GabeW> there were no surprises to me
  154. [20:37:13] <GabeW> but I know this area well (standardsmaking)
  155. [20:37:28] <melvster> great, i see that you were involved with xri/oasis
  156. [20:37:37] <GabeW> s/were/are/
  157. [20:37:44] <GabeW> i'm cochair of the XRI TC
  158. [20:37:46] <melvster> sorry, that too
  159. [20:37:49] <GabeW> tho
  160. [20:38:16] <GabeW> thats tangential to my work on openid
  161. [20:38:19] <melvster> so what about companies that build something on top of the OpenID spec?
  162. [20:38:25] <GabeW> implementers
  163. [20:38:33] <GabeW> there's a rationale document you should read first
  164. [20:38:43] <GabeW> its written in non-legalese
  165. [20:39:31] <GabeW> to be honest, I have to go back and reread the policy again because there was a lot of back and forth on various terms
  166. [20:39:39] <GabeW> and I don't want to be stating the wrong result ;-)
  167. [20:40:08] <melvster> no worries
  168. [20:40:35] <melvster> ill take a look at the doc
  169. [20:40:54] <melvster> but if the openid spec remains open, that's probably the best news all round
  170. [20:40:54] <GabeW> cool, i just crashed firefox trying to print one of those docs
  171. [20:40:57] <GabeW> yah
  172. [20:40:59] <GabeW> of course!
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  175. [20:50:42] <GabeW> seriously, if you only read one doc - read the rationale one
  176. [20:51:00] <GabeW> but do read the others too!
  177. [20:51:20] <melvster> sorry, do you have the link
  178. [20:51:24] <melvster> or is it in the title?
  179. [20:51:39] <GabeW> its in the topic
  180. [20:51:43] <melvster> got it
  181. [20:51:45] <GabeW> http://xrl.us/6uh7
  182. [20:51:45] <GabeW> oh
  183. [20:51:49] <GabeW> thats to the annoucement
  184. [20:51:51] <melvster> http://openid.net/pipermail/legal/2007-September/000032.html
  185. [20:51:56] <melvster> thanks!
  186. [20:51:57] <GabeW> http://openid.net/ipr/
  187. [20:52:01] <GabeW> ther's the docs
  188. [20:52:17] <melvster> brilliant, thanks a lot
  189. [20:52:29] <melvster> ill point people to the pages if anyone asks
  190. [20:52:50] <GabeW> cool
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  195. [21:01:31] <jibot> marclaporte is Marc Laporte from Tiki CMS/Groupware
  196. [21:03:26] <openid_pibb> <Blueberry> yep brian, all is good now. the ruby openid library from janrain, the consumer specifically, doesn't seem to like the request params given by ruby's built in cgi support
  197. [21:03:38] <GabeW> i, for one, appreciate the jibot announcements, for the record
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  199. [21:04:17] <GabeW> ?def AaronF
  200. [21:04:17] <jibot> Nobody has defined AaronF yet
  201. [21:04:41] <AaronF> that bot is on crack
  202. [21:04:48] <GabeW> i just said
  203. [21:04:49] <AaronF> ?def GabeW
  204. [21:04:49] <openid_pibb> <Blueberry> i tried giving it the cgi object, which has [] accessors for the request params, i then tried giving it cgi.params, which is a hash, keyed by request param name and then containing an array of all the values, even if there's only one
  205. [21:04:49] <jibot> GabeW is in the Bay Area & XRI Oasis TC cochair & owner of http://uncorked.wachob.com & a Boalt Law School Grad & owner of http://www.wachob.com & =GabeW & coined Flash Slobs & CTO of http://www.amsoft.net & blogs at http://blog.wachob.com & "big daddy G" & also known as "The Afterburner"
  206. [21:04:51] <GabeW> i, for one, appreciate the jibot announcements, for the record
  207. [21:05:07] <AaronF> well, the last time I taught it
  208. [21:05:09] <openid_pibb> <Blueberry> reasoning is so the scripts can handle things like check boxes and so forth
  209. [21:05:15] <AaronF> it couldn't remember
  210. [21:05:42] <GabeW> or someone nuked it
  211. [21:05:51] <openid_pibb> <Blueberry> I ended up having to manually convert the cgi.params hash in to another hash with the arrays flattened in to strings
  212. [21:05:52] <GabeW> its a social tagging bot
  213. [21:06:03] <AaronF> nah they were having probs with it
  214. [21:06:06] <GabeW> hah
  215. [21:06:09] <AaronF> what's syntax again?
  216. [21:06:09] <GabeW> yah, that too
  217. [21:06:15] <GabeW> ?help
  218. [21:06:18] <AaronF> ?help
  219. [21:06:31] <GabeW> privmsg's you
  220. [21:06:47] <melvster> ?help
  221. [21:07:35] <melvster> pretty cool desc, you could have wachob.com as your openid :)
  222. [21:08:12] <GabeW> i could
  223. [21:08:20] <GabeW> i could also have =gmw, which I actually do have
  224. [21:18:31] <melvster> nice!
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  226. [21:30:59] <AaronF> ?learn AaronF is a founder of MindTouch and blogs at http://oblogn.com and http://mindtouch.com/blog
  227. [21:31:00] <jibot> AaronF is a founder of MindTouch and blogs at http://oblogn.com and http://mindtouch.com/blog
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