IRC Log for #openid on 2007-10-01
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marclaporte is Marc Laporte from Tiki CMS/Groupware
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whoaaaahhhhh, didn't even guess this channel till now
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- [14:29:54] <melvster>
hi all
- [14:30:12] <melvster>
NASA i have an openid sever implemented in 2 different ways
- [14:30:27] <melvster>
still working on the janrain libraries
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- [17:01:09] <kfogel>
The standalone server whose homepage is http://www.openidenabled.com/php-standalone-openid-server doesn't say the license anywhere.
- [17:01:48] <kfogel>
It shows all the signs of being an open source project, but it doesn't actually say it's open source, or give a license.
- [17:02:15] <kfogel>
Anyone know if this is just an oversight, or is something odder going on?
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- [17:02:42] <openid_pibb>
<cygnus> see the COPYING file included in the package
- [17:04:37] <openid_pibb>
<cygnus> I'll update the web page to mention the license.
- [17:04:42] <kfogel>
openid_pibb: For the truly paranoid (e.g., those of us who have actually been bitten by the BitKeeper licensing switcheroo), downloading a package is something you do *after* you know the license :-).
- [17:04:43] <openid_pibb>
kfogel: Error: "For" is not a valid command.
- [17:04:58] <kfogel>
oh, you're a bot
- [17:05:08] <openid_pibb>
<cygnus> yeah, he relays messages from Pibb.
- [17:05:22] <kfogel>
Not sure I understand that, but thanks.
- [17:05:56] <SignpostMarv>
kfogel: the truly paranoid never get anywhere :-P
- [17:06:33] <openid_pibb>
<cygnus> kfogel: see pibb.com
- [17:06:55] <openid_pibb>
<cygnus> https://pibb.com/go/openid in particular.
- [17:07:01] <kfogel>
SignpostMarv: sure :-). In this instance, I'm not really worried about legal exposure from downloading (though in BK's case it was real and I honestly did have to worry about it). I think it would be nice if the front page just said the license.
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- [17:07:26] <openid_pibb>
<cygnus> yeah, I agree, kfogel
- [17:07:27] <openid_pibb>
<cygnus> I'm updating it now.
- [17:07:44] <kfogel>
thanks!
- [17:07:56] <kfogel>
If I address you as cygnus in this channel, does that work right?
- [17:08:15] <SignpostMarv>
cygnus, how is the standalone php server coming along ?
- [17:08:40] <openid_pibb>
<cygnus> what do you mean, marv?
- [17:08:51] <openid_pibb>
<cygnus> kfogel, there isn't any addressing support in the bot, so you can address me however you like
- [17:09:12] <kfogel>
ah, ok
- [17:09:28] <SignpostMarv>
cygnus: I've not used it in a while :-P
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- [17:09:50] <SignpostMarv>
kfogel, try "that dude wot does stuff with that thing"
- [17:09:52] <SignpostMarv>
:-P
- [17:09:53] <openid_pibb>
<cygnus> we haven't made any chances to it since the 1.1 release.
- [17:10:14] <SignpostMarv>
you remember I was using it for a project I was working on ?
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- [17:10:32] * SignpostMarv forever complained about the difficulty of tweaking and hacking it :-P
- [17:10:45] <openid_pibb>
<cygnus> ah. :)
- [17:11:00] <SignpostMarv>
I switched to a wordpress:mu-based install :-P
- [17:11:16] <melvster>
yeah i tried both of those too
- [17:11:16] <SignpostMarv>
no more smarty X-D
- [17:11:28] <melvster>
i got the mu up and running in about half an hour
- [17:11:30] <SignpostMarv>
http://my.slopenid.net/signpostmarv-martin/
- [17:11:38] <openid_pibb>
<cygnus> ** cygnus shrugs, smarty isn't the worst.
- [17:11:49] <openid_pibb>
<cygnus> but at any rate, cool.
- [17:11:55] <SignpostMarv>
oh yeah, definately
- [17:12:06] <SignpostMarv>
but it's not suitable for what I'm doing with the SLOpenID profiles now :-P
- [17:12:11] <melvster>
but it seems a shame to be dependent on WP MU
- [17:12:17] <SignpostMarv>
how so ?
- [17:12:38] <melvster>
well if you dont want a blog, but want an open id server, you get extra baggage
- [17:12:46] <SignpostMarv>
replace the main content area with a dynamic sidebar, and you let the users have configurability up the wazoo of their profile
- [17:12:56] <SignpostMarv>
melvester, yes that would be the case
- [17:12:58] <melvster>
also they enforce some kind of URL rewriting which i need to get the hang of
- [17:13:13] <SignpostMarv>
but wpmu with tweaked themes is superb for user profiles
- [17:13:25] <kfogel>
cygnus: is this an appropriate place to report buglets, or do you prefer me to open Trac tickets or something?
- [17:14:12] <melvster>
must say the profiles look smart
- [17:14:57] <SignpostMarv>
had to write a blog posts widget in case people wanted to use the profiles as blogs :-P
- [17:15:11] <openid_pibb>
<cygnus> yes; see http://trac.openidenabled.com/
- [17:15:28] * SignpostMarv is curious to see what happens with the openid server stuffages if he uses the multi-site plugin
- [17:16:15] <melvster>
i got my mu installation running here ... http://www.melvster.com/blog/
- [17:16:31] <melvster>
with openid plugged in
- [17:16:44] <melvster>
but i dont know how to prevent it rewriting the url subdomains
- [17:17:03] <SignpostMarv>
whatcha mean ?
- [17:17:21] <melvster>
so my blog is
- [17:17:24] * SignpostMarv suggest we take the discussion to #wpmu :-P
- [17:17:26] <melvster>
http://melvster.melvster.com/blog/
- [17:17:34] <melvster>
oh ok, yes good idea
- [17:18:31] <openid_pibb>
<cygnus> kfogel, the page is updated now.
- [17:18:36] <kfogel>
cygnus: thank you
- [17:18:48] <kfogel>
cygnus: I can't log a Trac ticket, because I don't have an OpenID ID.
- [17:19:07] <SignpostMarv>
kfogel: get one :-P
- [17:19:15] <GabeW>
hi all
- [17:19:19] <SignpostMarv>
if you're a Second Life Resident, you can get one on SLOpenID
- [17:19:26] <GabeW>
this channel has gotten critical mass
- [17:19:27] <SignpostMarv>
if not, there's lots out there
- [17:19:27] <GabeW>
yay
- [17:19:34] <GabeW>
hey SignpostMarv I have it, but I'm not sure what to do with it
- [17:19:44] <GabeW>
like, I click on the HUD in SL and it brings me to a blog
- [17:19:45] <kfogel>
The bug is simply that the 1.1 tarball unpacks into a directory named "PHP-server-1.1". This is a generic name -- it could be any application written in PHP, and in fact looking at it I would expect it to be an implementation of PHP itself.
- [17:19:46] <GabeW>
that I can't edit
- [17:19:46] <SignpostMarv>
if you've got a wordpress.com account, you have an OpenID
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- [17:20:15] <SignpostMarv>
GabeW: did you get any error messages when signing up ?
- [17:20:18] <GabeW>
no
- [17:20:24] <SignpostMarv>
did you get your password ?
- [17:20:27] <GabeW>
uh
- [17:20:28] <GabeW>
no
- [17:20:29] <GabeW>
?
- [17:20:32] <GabeW>
password?
- [17:20:38] <SignpostMarv>
it tells you your password :-P
- [17:20:42] <GabeW>
what does?
- [17:20:45] <SignpostMarv>
the HUD
- [17:20:48] <GabeW>
um
- [17:20:53] <GabeW>
i don't remember seeing that
- [17:21:02] <SignpostMarv>
I really need to put a forgotten password feature into the HUD :-P
- [17:21:14] <GabeW>
or at least make sures it tells the user ONCE
- [17:21:19] <GabeW>
;-0)
- [17:21:27] <SignpostMarv>
it does
- [17:21:41] <SignpostMarv>
if you're not familiar with object communication in SL, you probably wouldn't have noticed it
- [17:22:21] <GabeW>
well
- [17:22:22] <GabeW>
i am
- [17:22:31] <GabeW>
but you have to realize, the UI can get quite crowded
- [17:22:38] <SignpostMarv>
yep
- [17:22:43] <GabeW>
does it send a privmsg/
- [17:22:43] <GabeW>
?
- [17:22:48] <GabeW>
an IM...
- [17:22:54] <SignpostMarv>
blame it on LL for not giving a object IMs a tabbed interface
- [17:23:45] <melvster>
great idea to put openid in SL
- [17:23:53] * don-o looks at the wordpress openid plugin 2.0
- [17:24:13] <SignpostMarv>
GabeW: privmsg me your email addy, I'll put it in the system and you can run the forgotten password stuff via WordPress: http://my.slopenid.net/wp-login.php?action=lostpassword
- [17:24:15] <GabeW>
its funny, its not at all how I woudl have thought to do it
- [17:24:48] <SignpostMarv>
with the amount of objects in SL- 15k per sim, 2k+ sims, all of them can IM you
- [17:24:55] <SignpostMarv>
not that all of them would, it's just their
- [17:24:58] <SignpostMarv>
there*
- [17:25:04] <SignpostMarv>
in the language support
- [17:25:20] <SignpostMarv>
putting object comms in with the Resident comms floater would've been a nightmare
- [17:25:26] <SignpostMarv>
but it really should have it's own floater
- [17:25:45] <SignpostMarv>
GabeW: do you think the password should be displayed in an llDialog() ?
- [17:26:14] <GabeW>
hmm
- [17:26:17] <GabeW>
not sure
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- [17:26:49] <jibot>
marclaporte is Marc Laporte from Tiki CMS/Groupware
- [17:27:23] <GabeW>
it should probably be displayed on a giant floating cartoon balloon that displays the password for 5 seconds then blows up in a Mission Impossible - style self-destruction sequence
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- [17:27:26] <GabeW>
or not
- [17:28:02] <GabeW>
and plays the mission impossible theme song
- [17:28:08] <GabeW>
we need INNOVATION in authentication
- [17:28:14] <GabeW>
and this is exactly what *I* am talking about!!!
- [17:28:20] <GabeW>
or not
- [17:28:36] <SignpostMarv>
could probably do that
- [17:28:39] <SignpostMarv>
:-P
- [17:28:58] <GabeW>
i kinda think you should ...
- [17:28:59] <GabeW>
or not
- [17:29:27] <GabeW>
http://blog.wachob.com/2007/01/openid_is_a_pla.html
- [17:30:06] * SignpostMarv hits GabeW with the stick labeled "truncated urls totally su"
- [17:30:11] <GabeW>
haha
- [17:30:13] <GabeW>
blame typeapd
- [17:30:14] <GabeW>
typepad
- [17:30:19] <SignpostMarv>
WordPress FTW!
- [17:30:56] <melvster>
the drupal openid login is sweet
- [17:31:18] <melvster>
actually it's a multi login
- [17:33:16] <don-o>
lol
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AaronF is a founder of MindTouch and blogs at http://oblogn.com and http://mindtouch.com/blog
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