IRC Log for #openid on 2008-01-15

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  5. [00:27:33] <jibot> evanpro is Evan Prodromou, info at http://wikitravel.org/en/User:Evan
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  15. [01:51:48] <jibot> evanpro is Evan Prodromou, info at http://wikitravel.org/en/User:Evan
  16. [01:54:32] <evanpro> jibot, forget evanpro
  17. [01:54:37] <evanpro> sigh
  18. [01:54:44] <evanpro> I forget how to reprogram jibot
  19. [01:55:38] <_keturn> jibot has some kind of reverse Alzheimer's. It's very, very bad at forgetting things.
  20. [01:58:13] <evanpro> _keturn: I spent the weekend working on bringing the OpenID extension for MediaWiki up to OpenIDEnabled 2.0 standards... hopefully I'll have something to install on the openid.net wiki sometime this week
  21. [01:59:52] <_keturn> Neat
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  24. [02:14:04] <tjohns> evanpro: That would be nice. After I fixed the wiki, I got emails from people who were trying to use directed identity with it.
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  47. [05:52:26] <bcardarella> Hey, I was playing with the AX extension and I notice if I try to send a large amount of data that a 'continue' button automatically appears... I assume this is so the large data can be sent via POST... but I can't seem to see where this form is being generated from. Is there any way to style this page?
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  52. [06:20:33] <bcardarella> Ok, I see where OpenID::Message.to_form_markup is generating the form is the data length is too long. It's too bad Rails' redirect_to doesn't allow one to submit POST requests. This function wouldn't be necessary.
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  100. [14:21:48] <jibot> evanpro is Evan Prodromou, info at http://wikitravel.org/en/User:Evan
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  123. [18:10:06] <jibot> yonkeltron is Jonathan E. Magen a dual-bootin' yid from Philadelphia and runs http://www.bluefacemonkey.com and back from Israel
  124. [18:10:14] <yonkeltron> whoa
  125. [18:10:17] <yonkeltron> that's old
  126. [18:10:21] <yonkeltron> and the url is out of date
  127. [18:10:31] <yonkeltron> jibot: help
  128. [18:10:52] <yonkeltron> jibot: whois yonkeltron
  129. [18:10:58] <yonkeltron> jibot: who is yonkeltron
  130. [18:11:00] <yonkeltron> jibot: who is yonkeltron?
  131. [18:11:02] <yonkeltron> grrr
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  133. [18:19:43] <yonkeltron> ?forgetme
  134. [18:19:43] <jibot> I have expunged yonkeltron from my mind
  135. [18:19:50] <yonkeltron> splendid
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  137. [18:24:54] <yonkeltron> my lab is pushing an initiative to get my college to support OpenID in our CAS installation and i'm just wondering who i could contact to try and get a press/schwag kit. brochures, stickers, whatever...
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  141. [18:30:02] <bcardarella> I've made a modification to the message.rb file for the Ruby gem that I believe is useful. I changed the to_form_markup method... instead of just printing a blank page with the submit button it now has javascript in the <body> tag to automatically submit the form when the page is loaded. In the even the javascript does execute it has a little notice instructing the user to press the button. I have a DIFF file, where should I submit this?
  142. [18:32:12] <bcardarella> I'll try submitting via DARC
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  148. [19:15:09] <dynamo> hello
  149. [19:16:07] <bcardarella> Is there anybody here from the DEV team?
  150. [19:16:46] <_keturn> hello
  151. [19:17:02] <yonkeltron> hello
  152. [19:17:52] <bcardarella> Hey, I can't seem to get the tests to run for a submission... I just made a simple change and after looking at the test itself it doesn't seem that it should effect it. I have a DIFF file for message.rb in the Ruby gem. Should I just email it to the list?
  153. [19:18:53] <_keturn> bcardarella: yeah, send it to the list.
  154. [19:19:13] <bcardarella> ok
  155. [19:19:23] <_keturn> list traffic might be a little bit backed up at the moment, but it'll get there
  156. [19:22:20] <yonkeltron> _keturn: out of curiosity, is there anyway to obain a press kit/schwag bag with some materials on OpenID? i'm trying to convince my college to deploy and support OpenID
  157. [19:22:55] <yonkeltron> i looked for someone to contact but couldn't find much
  158. [19:23:49] <_keturn> yonkeltron: you can ask kfox@janrain.com for a press kit. I don't think we have much in the way of a schwag bag here, but maybe he can find someone in the OpenID Foundation who does.
  159. [19:26:02] <Makenshi> I am in the process of deploying it at my college
  160. [19:26:13] <Makenshi> I hope i finish it before i leave in feb
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  162. [19:26:52] <yonkeltron> Makenshi: o rly?
  163. [19:27:02] <Makenshi> yonkeltron: excuse me?
  164. [19:27:53] <yonkeltron> Makenshi: what college?
  165. [19:28:14] <Makenshi> North East Worcestershire
  166. [19:28:28] <yonkeltron> and how are you deploying it?
  167. [19:29:07] <Makenshi> It will be unsupported because I am leaving soon an there is no directive for it
  168. [19:29:25] <Makenshi> If I was to stay I would go with Crowd
  169. [19:29:31] <yonkeltron> hmm
  170. [19:30:41] <yonkeltron> Makenshi: well, we use the JA-SIG CAS software and we know it supports OpenID though it would need to be enabled
  171. [19:30:54] <yonkeltron> additionally, there's the problem of providing OpenIDs to users and other stuff
  172. [19:34:03] <yonkeltron> Makenshi: crows?
  173. [19:34:07] <yonkeltron> sorry, crowd?
  174. [19:34:19] <Makenshi> Yes, Crowd
  175. [19:34:32] <yonkeltron> what is it?
  176. [19:35:07] <Makenshi> It is a commercial SSO solution from Atlassian
  177. [19:35:31] <yonkeltron> ah
  178. [19:38:32] <yonkeltron> is there any non-commercial software package that can be used to provide openid urls?
  179. [19:38:57] <Makenshi> You can provide openid urls with just a simple web server
  180. [19:39:06] <Makenshi> just refer them to another provier
  181. [19:39:26] <Makenshi> That is how I do it currently
  182. [19:39:29] <yonkeltron> yeah but the school would need to be the provider
  183. [19:39:34] <Makenshi> Not necessarily
  184. [19:39:43] <yonkeltron> how so?
  185. [19:40:14] <Makenshi> You can refer to another provider.. for example, openid.xmpp.za.net, and use XEP-0070 for authentication (or just plain xmpp)
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  187. [19:41:04] <Makenshi> eg, openid.[domain]/user points to openid.xmpp.za.net/user@domain
  188. [19:41:29] <Makenshi> you use the former as your openid url
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  190. [19:41:55] <yonkeltron> well, we already have all the accounts and such taken care of because every student has an account on the CAS anyway, we just need to turn the OpenID bits on
  191. [19:42:04] <yonkeltron> so, i'm not entirely sure how that would fit together
  192. [19:43:19] <Makenshi> User logs onto jabber (user@domain).. they go to a site, put in openid.domain/user.. they get redirected to openid.xmpp.za.net to log in, it sends an authentication message to them by jabber, they respond, get authenticated, proceed to the site
  193. [19:45:21] <yonkeltron> yeah but we don't have a jabber system right now
  194. [19:45:42] <_keturn> bcardarella: what did you use to make that diff? It doesn't have the usual diff headers on it
  195. [19:45:52] <Makenshi> That is a stumbling block, then :)
  196. [19:46:00] <Makenshi> Of course ideally your site is also the provider
  197. [19:48:50] <yonkeltron> Makenshi: i think our CAS package can do that
  198. [19:48:56] <yonkeltron> hang on and i'll find the wiki page
  199. [19:53:26] <yonkeltron> Makenshi: http://www.ja-sig.org/wiki/display/CASUM/OpenID
  200. [19:54:34] <Makenshi> There is a vmware image of Ignite (commercial and gnu licensed jabber server).. i hope that there will be something similar soon for openid, a vm you can drop in and connect to your directory
  201. [19:57:24] * stub (n=stub@canonical/launchpad/stub) Quit ("Leaving.")
  202. [19:58:18] <Makenshi> What licenses are available?
  203. [19:59:00] <yonkeltron> for what?
  204. [19:59:17] <Makenshi> For CAS
  205. [20:00:37] <yonkeltron> i think it's free
  206. [20:00:41] <yonkeltron> at least open source
  207. [20:01:19] <yonkeltron> aight, i need to bounce for lunch but i'll be back at some point
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  209. [20:10:56] <bcardarella> _keturn: I used the linux command line diff program
  210. [20:11:48] <bcardarella> > diff original new > new.diff
  211. [20:18:13] <_keturn> hmm, I guess it's only with --context or --unified that it puts headers on it
  212. [20:18:35] <bcardarella> Want me to do it with the headers?
  213. [20:19:05] <_keturn> no, it was just the one file, so I got it figured out
  214. [20:20:02] <bcardarella> ok... so do you think it's useful? I just figured with this being OpenID the point it to limit the number of forms the user has to deal with.
  215. [20:22:17] <_keturn> Yeah. We were just talking about how to handle that method. The common practice is to do it with javascript like you did, we just didn't have the javascript in the library.
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  222. [20:55:30] <jibot> evanpro is Evan Prodromou, info at http://wikitravel.org/en/User:Evan
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  233. [22:19:30] <Makenshi> Looks like Yahoo! is getting ready to offer OpenIDs
  234. [22:19:44] <Makenshi> On a flickr photostream page, <link rel="openid2.provider" href="https://open.login.yahooapis.com/openid/op/auth" />
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  240. [23:23:09] <_keturn> there were some people who mentioned that in blogs last week. came up in the aggregator on openid.net.
  241. [23:24:32] <Makenshi> Ah
  242. [23:24:44] <Makenshi> just happened to spot it whilst doing something else
  243. [23:34:55] <Freja> mentioned what?
  244. [23:40:22] <yonkeltron> _keturn: i emailed the guy you gave me the addy of about the press kit
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