IRC Log for #openid on 2008-01-16
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- [00:21:16] <jibot>
evanpro is Evan Prodromou, info at http://wikitravel.org/en/User:Evan
- [00:24:27] <Acro>
Any ideas for a OpenID provider name? I'm setting up a new service and need a short and memorizable domain name (.com)...
- [00:26:12] <evanpro>
dinepo.com
- [00:26:19] <evanpro>
Actually, that might be taken
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- [00:26:45] <evanpro>
Taken!
- [00:26:49] <evanpro>
hmmm
- [00:27:01] <evanpro>
selfdentiserv.com
- [00:27:10] <p33r__>
whenever i need nonsencial and easy to remember names i allways grab my Web 2.0 name generator
- [00:27:10] <p33r__>
http://www.lightsphere.com/dev/web20.html
- [00:27:19] <p33r__>
(two of my friends companies were actually named with that thing)
- [00:27:35] <Acro>
Actually thought of that - even though it would be kinda fun in my native tongue (Danish) as din means your and EPO is the doping we all know from bicycle racing...
- [00:27:36] <evanpro>
youpersonident.com
- [00:28:03] <Acro>
p33r__, cool, I'll try again - unfortunatly I primarily get names that are taken...
- [00:28:12] <p33r__>
thats what i like about .no
- [00:28:15] <evanpro>
wideopenid.com
- [00:28:30] <evanpro>
Oh, no match!
- [00:28:32] <p33r__>
we are going for http://1d.no/ with our OpenID server
- [00:28:34] <evanpro>
Grab that one!
- [00:28:48] <Acro>
Also thought of something like idpusher, but that is taken to.
- [00:29:05] <Acro>
p33r__, pretty cool!
- [00:29:16] <p33r__>
aye, i was plesantly surprised when it was not taken
- [00:29:44] <p33r__>
but since the .no domain registar thingy (norid) is pretty bitchy about it's domains it's pretty easy to get some good ones
- [00:29:55] <p33r__>
you gotta be a norwegian company, and they just recenlty allowed "number domains"
- [00:30:22] <p33r__>
a friend of mine is using http://x0.no/ for an URL-shortening service :P
- [00:30:31] <evanpro>
Maybe something in the .id tld
- [00:30:32] <p33r__>
gotta love exothic domains :p
- [00:30:42] <p33r__>
evanpro: that's gotta be expensive
- [00:30:45] <Acro>
wideopenid is used by another provider at .org; could register the .com, but not sure whether it is a good idea. It wouldn't benefit users, if two providers share a name...
- [00:31:22] <evanpro>
partiallyopenid.com
- [00:32:52] <Acro>
Too long, isn't it?
- [00:33:10] <p33r__>
Acro: how about like xzopenid.com
- [00:33:17] <p33r__>
more X's and Z's allways make people happy :p
- [00:33:27] <p33r__>
and if you use some good combo it's usually not taken
- [00:34:11] <Acro>
Maybe I should relax my demands a little and settle for a non .com domain. I'm just thinking it would be better to the users to get a unique name, which aren't associated with other websites at all...
- [00:34:22] <p33r__>
thats true
- [00:34:29] <p33r__>
.com is pretty.. crowded
- [00:35:27] <Acro>
But it is arguably easier to make a phishing website, if you have a domain name, that is very similar to the original. So if I use xxx.org and xxx.com is owned by some domain pirate, well ...
- [00:35:47] <p33r__>
a really REALLY unique name would be best i guess, go for the name generator! P
- [00:35:48] <p33r__>
:P
- [00:36:21] <Acro>
I could got the Web 2.0r-way and choose something like validr .-D
- [00:36:39] <Acro>
Well, I'll click the Name Generator, till I'm too tired!
- [00:36:53] <p33r__>
(my friends hosting-firm, ixo is named by using that :P)
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- [00:37:07] <p33r__>
ixo was kinda catchy
- [00:37:22] <p33r__>
Acro: latin names are always a winner
- [00:38:35] <Acro>
Could try makewords.com...
- [00:38:39] <p33r__>
haha :p
- [00:39:13] <p33r__>
how about idmakr
- [00:39:25] <p33r__>
"make your digital identity here!"
- [00:39:56] <p33r__>
idmakr.com is not taken either
- [00:40:27] <p33r__>
and the owner of idmaker.com is some card-producer
- [00:40:33] <p33r__>
wich just redirects
- [00:40:43] <p33r__>
short, catchy, hard to spell and very web2.0
- [00:41:24] <p33r__>
ofcourse, it's hard to beat the 2.0 generator. "zoomwire" , "pixomba" and "thoughttube" are winners
- [00:41:30] <p33r__>
Acro: how about it? idmakr.com :P
- [00:41:42] <evanpro>
to be fair, asking this question in #openid is a bad idea
- [00:41:54] <p33r__>
thats true anyways :p
- [00:41:55] <evanpro>
since many of the people here either own or work for competitor companies
- [00:42:05] <evanpro>
and we'll try to think up the dumbest possible name for yours
- [00:42:14] <evanpro>
B-)
- [00:42:18] <p33r__>
hah :p
- [00:42:26] <p33r__>
so how about it? zoomwire.com!
- [00:42:55] <evanpro>
zoomwire.com sounds good
- [00:43:04] <p33r__>
zoomwire2000.com :P
- [00:43:12] <evanpro>
I think the Punycode area for domain names is another possibility
- [00:43:35] <evanpro>
ôpénïd.net
- [00:43:48] <Acro>
p33r__, idmakr could work... It is not the best, but you have to settle somewhere...
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- [00:43:52] <p33r__>
oh yeah, just add a 2000 there, and your practically done :P
- [00:44:05] <Acro>
evanpro, true, but it is a common interest to spread OpenID :-)
- [00:44:14] <Acro>
(or so I hope)
- [00:44:21] <evanpro>
suuuuuuuuure
- [00:44:24] <p33r__>
*mumbles something about lack of proper OpenID php server and competition*
- [00:45:12] <p33r__>
Acro: it cant be worse than our original idea for the OpenID name :p
- [00:45:19] <p33r__>
our company is named DirtyWorker
- [00:45:20] <Acro>
Use something else. Something more secure preferably :-P
- [00:45:37] <p33r__>
so the only resonable idea was ofcourse, DirtyId
- [00:45:44] <evanpro>
dirtyid is a good one
- [00:45:52] <p33r__>
oh yes :P
- [00:45:54] <Acro>
It's catchy!
- [00:46:18] <Acro>
And easy to remember... Wouldn't have been a bad choice!
- [00:46:20] <evanpro>
No match for "SEXYOPENID.COM".
- [00:46:34] <p33r__>
i prefer 1d.no ,but we will probeably use it as our "official" openID for our crew
- [00:46:36] <evanpro>
Sexy people in the house!
- [00:46:56] <p33r__>
sexyid.com , social networking AND OpenID, post your pictures, rate them AND get an OpenID for free
- [00:46:59] <p33r__>
*dies*
- [00:47:05] <Acro>
Ha ha
- [00:47:25] <p33r__>
anyways, the plan was to connect dirtyid.com to our community (japani.no) wich consists mostly of 15-18 year olds :P
- [00:47:35] <evanpro>
sexyid.com is taken, sadly
- [00:47:42] <p33r__>
the name simply wasnt good for that target audience :P
- [00:47:51] <p33r__>
evanpro: aw man, my business idea!
- [00:48:09] <_keturn>
but sexid.org isn't yet
- [00:49:39] <p33r__>
anyways, hopefully we can fuel norwegian OpenID adaption a bit on our side ^^;
- [00:49:46] <p33r__>
it's been awfully slow here in the cold north
- [00:49:58] <evanpro>
uh
- [00:50:32] <Acro>
p33r__, and I'm going for Danish support...
- [00:50:44] <p33r__>
Acro: why not use a .dk domain?
- [00:50:52] <p33r__>
those should be free by the dozen
- [00:51:06] <evanpro>
openi.dk
- [00:51:44] <Acro>
p33r__, because it should be able to grow further. I'll register the .dk as well ;-)
- [00:52:07] <p33r__>
hehe, i guess
- [00:52:15] <p33r__>
but a good .dk domain can be just as good as a bad .com
- [00:52:20] <Acro>
openi.dk is available...
- [00:52:25] <Acro>
p33r__, sure!
- [00:52:30] <Acro>
No doubt about that.
- [00:52:45] <p33r__>
and 2-letter TLD vs 3-letter TLD
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- [00:52:57] <evanpro>
any sentence that ends with "dick" works well as a .dk
- [00:53:03] <evanpro>
uratotal.dk
- [00:53:12] <p33r__>
logging in has never been easyer! openid.dk shaving of those letters at the end for you!
- [00:53:14] <evanpro>
quitbeingsucha.dk
- [00:53:19] <p33r__>
that too
- [00:53:27] <Acro>
Ha ha...
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- [00:54:03] <evanpro>
probably not all that valuable as a business identity, though
- [00:54:28] <p33r__>
hey, we get by with dirtyworker :P allways get some wierd looks at conferences etc.
- [00:54:43] <p33r__>
(actually, another company i'we dealt with, 'brotherfucker' was worse)
- [00:54:53] <Acro>
OMG!
- [00:54:54] <p33r__>
they did interior design for biker bars, so i guess it fit, but still
- [00:58:28] <Acro>
If I just lived in Estonia, I could use "eyed.ee"
- [00:58:34] <Acro>
:-P
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- [01:11:56] <evanpro>
If you lived in Malaysia you could do openid.my
- [01:12:08] <evanpro>
But I'm not sure if the Janrain lawyers would like that
- [01:12:21] <p33r__>
haha
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miyagawa is Tatsuhiko Miyagawa, the author of Plagger <http://plagger.org> and works on Vox <http://www.vox.com> in Six Apart.
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- [06:01:22] <keturn>
wharrrg. http://vancouver.craigslist.ca/web/540285501.html
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hi
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- [14:59:45] <Jabberwock>
Allo
- [15:00:02] <Jabberwock>
Do you guys know of an openid provider that lets you add custom fields to your identity?
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- [15:54:57] <donomo>
jabberwock: openid 1.1 has 'simple registration' with a predefined set of fields
- [15:55:39] <donomo>
Jabberwock: openid 2.0 has 'attribute exchange' which is flexable but i dont know of an identity provider that allows for freform defining of attributes
- [15:55:55] <donomo>
myopenid.com seems to usually be in the lead for feature adoption
- [15:56:16] <donomo>
s/freform/freeform/
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- [16:00:14] <Jabberwock>
donomo: I found one
- [16:00:21] <Jabberwock>
pip.verisignlabs.com
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- [16:14:17] <donomo>
'Add Field' nice.
- [16:15:12] <donomo>
Jabberwock: verisign supports the one-time-pad keychain dongle thingy. only $5 from paypal.
- [16:15:39] <Makenshi>
donomo: Is that for within the USA only?
- [16:15:53] <donomo>
Makenshi: i think paypal will sell the device to anyone
- [16:15:56] <Makenshi>
As PayPal will not ship outside North America
- [16:16:00] <Makenshi>
I tried to get one before
- [16:16:03] <donomo>
Makenshi: hmm. i dont really know.
- [16:16:04] <donomo>
oh
- [16:16:19] <donomo>
verisign also sells them
- [16:16:26] <Makenshi>
I have an rsa key for work.. personally i would prefer rsa mobile (one time code delivered by sms)
- [16:16:59] <donomo>
really? transmitting the secret by sms doesnt seem too secret
- [16:17:45] <Makenshi>
Yes, you can always encrypt the code with a certificate stored on the phone
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- [16:18:12] <donomo>
i like the dongle, except when im upstairs and my keychain is downstairs.
- [16:18:40] <Makenshi>
Problem is you have to carry a dongle for each provider.. the banks here are starting to do that which is annoying
- [16:18:54] <Makenshi>
they give you a device that you put your card in, enter your pin, and it generates a code
- [16:19:03] <Makenshi>
I would prefer one method that i can use with all the services
- [16:19:21] <Makenshi>
mobile seems the easiest as they hav emy number, and if my phone gets stolen, i only have one call to make
- [16:19:38] <donomo>
i see. i was suprized that verisign 'just worked' with the paypal dongle
- [16:20:17] <Makenshi>
Yes, as the dongles have an associated xml security token that needs to be installed on the server, so they must be using the same server
- [16:20:40] <Makenshi>
I doubt very much that they would send the tokens to a third-party on a per-dongle basis
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- [17:03:35] <Jabberwock>
donomo: What would it use an OTP for?
- [17:04:16] <Jabberwock>
It seems openid is not suited for my intentions which is to obtain S3 account info for an S3 widget I created
- [17:04:28] <Jabberwock>
That would leave that information available for any openid provider.
- [17:05:01] <donomo>
Jabberwock: maybe OTP is not the best term, im saying verisign uses secondard authentication (primary being a password), which is nice to see.
- [17:05:09] <donomo>
secondary, evey.
- [17:05:12] <donomo>
even. sheesh.
- [17:05:38] <Jabberwock>
gotcha
- [17:05:42] <Jabberwock>
Was gonna say...
- [17:05:54] <Jabberwock>
OTP is OTP :)
- [17:06:27] <Jabberwock>
seems I'll have to use a proprietary authentication system where the user stores their account info
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- [17:07:31] <Jabberwock>
unless I use a one-way-hash on the information itself. That would still restrict them to use my openid service, which breaks the 'decentralization'
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evanpro is Evan Prodromou, info at http://wikitravel.org/en/User:Evan
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- [17:34:09] <Jabberwock>
Any thoughts?
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evanpro is Evan Prodromou, info at http://wikitravel.org/en/User:Evan
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