IRC Log for #openid on 2008-02-04
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- [01:39:40] <anchovyman>
Anyone on this list from yahoo? I have a bug to report....
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- [03:03:24] <PibbRelay>
<Blueberry> You guys should get someone to update http://openid.net/get/ with yahoo
- [03:08:21] <PibbRelay>
<ozamosi> I looked at that list today, and noticed that several of the providers that pibb provides "shortcuts" for isn't avalible on that list.
- [03:08:32] <PibbRelay>
<ozamosi> I remember yahoo and blogger - there may have been one more.
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- [06:01:11] <tjohns>
ozamosi: Ya, I just went through the list of shortcuts on Pibb, Blogger and Yahoo are the only ones missing
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- [09:33:21] <PibbRelay>
<ahazu> Hi.. I can't seem to find anything about Single Logout when it comes to OpenID.. Is there any such functionality planned, or is this a non-issue?
- [09:37:21] <PibbRelay>
<Martin> OpenID is currently not even full Single SignOn, it is more like 'single username and password pair'
- [09:37:44] <PibbRelay>
<Martin> You still depend on services to do the right thing once they get your single username/password.
- [09:41:06] <PibbRelay>
<ahazu> Thats true, but is there currently any plans or suggestions for Single Logout?
- [09:42:30] <PibbRelay>
<Martin> AFAIK not
- [09:43:02] <PibbRelay>
<ahazu> Ok. Thank you.. :)
- [09:49:38] <PibbRelay>
<ahazu> Do you know of any other known "big" security issues when it comes to OpenID? Except the lack of SLO...
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- [09:52:14] <flaccid__>
not sure if that message got through
- [09:52:16] <flaccid__>
[20:49] <flaccid_> what qualifies as true SSO ?
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- [10:07:02] <polyonymous_>
flaccid_, perhaps being logged in on one site when you're logged in on the other? Without saying who you are?
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- [10:19:20] <polyonymous_>
flaccid_, perhaps being logged in on one site when you're logged in on the other? Without saying who you are?
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- [17:12:56] <PibbRelay>
<harningt> HTTPS support - is there any requirement that openid 1.1 be capable of using identities w/ https ?
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- [18:14:15] <PibbRelay>
<keturn> I consider that a requirement. I know there are plenty of deployments that don't conform to that though.
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- [19:32:22] <PibbRelay>
<harningt> thanks, so I take it you would suggest that an 'automatic' redirect from an http://openidurl -> https://openidurl would not be good (or is there some good way to check for capability?)
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- [19:58:07] <PibbRelay>
<VxJasonxV> that is not good, because IdP lookups don't follow redirects best I remember
- [19:58:08] <PibbRelay>
<VxJasonxV> (though they may... check the specs)
- [19:58:40] <PibbRelay>
<VxJasonxV> ideally, the individual will link to their OpenID uri as being: https://foo.bar.url/things
- [19:59:01] <PibbRelay>
<VxJasonxV> or, in OpenID land, they just say my url is foo.bar.url and the IdP returns the appropriate https://foo.bar.url/user address
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<VxJasonxV> OpenID2* land
- [20:09:03] <PibbRelay>
<harningt> Hrm... do you mean in the XRDS refer that the URL is an https one?
- [20:09:04] <PibbRelay>
<harningt> if they enter foo.bar.url, then normalization will make it http://foo.bar.url/
- [20:09:13] <PibbRelay>
<VxJasonxV> Yes, that is true
- [20:09:14] <PibbRelay>
<VxJasonxV> https:// != http://
- [20:09:45] <PibbRelay>
<VxJasonxV> In OpenID2 (for example, with Yahoo!), users can simply enter "yahoo.com" as their url, and yahoo will respond to the RP with the proper identifier
- [20:12:43] <PibbRelay>
<harningt> Hm, that mode seems to make sense... since in OpenID2 its more specific that HTTPS is supposed to be valid..
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- [20:25:47] <PibbRelay>
<keturn> whether or not you use an automatic redirect http -> https on your identifier URLs depends on whether you place more priority on working with as many RPs as possible (even if some of them are kind of broken) or on the security of your users. You could go either way.
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- [20:28:47] <LEW21>
Does anybody have any idea why ClaimID doesn't work for me? I'm trying to log to any site with it, it redirects me to the login page, and then to the ClaimID User Control Panel
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- [20:28:59] <PibbRelay>
<keturn> OpenID is reasonably well protected against forgery without HTTPS, but insisting on HTTPS would give you more protection against eavesdropping and certain DNS-based attacks. (although, again, protection from DNS based attacks relies on the RP doing things correctly.)
- [20:32:11] <LEW21>
??
- [20:33:11] <_keturn>
I don't see anyone from ClaimID on the channel right now
- [20:42:51] <LEW21>
OK, that was problem with cookies
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- [22:48:02] <hackradt>
Hi there! I'm new in this OpenID thing. So, I have a question that should be dumb, but....Here it is: I have accounts at 4 services that are OpenID servers. Does that mean I have 4 OpenID accounts? What if I want to have an account with MyOpenID.com instead? How can I play with all that number of accounts if the key quesiton here is to have only one??????
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- [22:50:05] <hackradt>
Anyone?
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- [22:57:05] <GabeW>
give it a minute, people are here pretty often
- [22:57:43] <GabeW>
thats what I told imajes before in a different channel
- [23:01:14] <hackradt>
ok!:) 10x
- [23:03:24] <PibbRelay>
<ozamosi> That means you have four. If you register again at myopenid it would mean you have five. The key question isn't to have only one - it's more to not have to register everywhere all the time. It also enables data migration, so you won't have to type full name, nick, email, etc, etc over and over.
- [23:06:26] <hackradt>
Hmmm..Ok! But if I login at any site with one of that 4 (or 5), my ID can be changed? Or I'll have to work with that one 4ever?
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- [23:17:50] <PibbRelay>
<ozamosi> That depends on the site.
- [23:18:21] <PibbRelay>
<ozamosi> You can usually attach multiple OpenID:s to a single user account, but that is not always the case.
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- [23:32:24] <hackradt>
Great And what will happen if Google, tomorrow, become a OpenID Consumer? My Google Account will be
- [23:32:37] <hackradt>
atached with my OpenID?
- [23:32:40] <hackradt>
Or vice versa?
- [23:34:14] <hackradt>
Yeap!
- [23:34:15] <hackradt>
:)
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- [23:37:30] <PibbRelay>
<ozamosi> *scratch head* Now you're confusing me. If they became a OpenID consumer, you would be able to log in to your Google Account with your OpenID. You can already log in with OpenID to make comments on blogger (which is google operated), so Google is actually a OpenID consumer already, just not for the google accounts part.
- [23:38:34] <PibbRelay>
<ozamosi> There's not necessarily any merging of accounts taking place at all.
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