IRC Log for #openid on 2008-02-28

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  1. [00:00:50] <tav> so, /profile/yg6RTXAGc-Yh9wbYXx0T7c0hvsDo_a4UhywbBX4-9i4
  2. [00:00:52] <tav> woo!
  3. [00:01:02] <polyonymous> shorty ;)
  4. [00:01:31] <polyonymous> but I thought sha256 base64 are shorter... perhaps you can resort to sha1 :)
  5. [00:01:44] * tav goes back to md5
  6. [00:01:46] <tav> ;p
  7. [00:01:47] <polyonymous> anyway, I'm going off to sleep.
  8. [00:01:55] <tav> thanks polyonymous
  9. [00:02:01] <polyonymous> you're welcome
  10. [00:02:22] <tav> g'nite
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  12. [00:03:49] <jibot> VxJasonxV is just another OpenID fan. Though he understands Yadis and follows it's progression.
  13. [00:07:53] <johnjay> polyonymous/taz: I hear you. You have no idea how many times I bring up this issue with the people around me.
  14. [00:08:17] <johnjay> I was simply pointing out that there is a way to prettify the OpenID identifier, as gimped as it maybe
  15. [00:12:28] <donomo> gotta love those obscured yahoo openids
  16. [00:17:34] <tav> johnjay: thanks
  17. [00:39:53] <johnjay> Ooops, s:taz:tav: :-)
  18. [00:40:06] <tav> heh, no worries
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  22. [01:24:55] <ffm> any ideas for combining openid and IRC?
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  24. [01:30:40] <johnjay> I think Pibb already does this to some extent
  25. [01:30:53] <johnjay> With the help of PibbRelay
  26. [01:31:18] <johnjay> Or did you mean in terms of NickServ
  27. [01:31:32] <ffm> pibbrelay?
  28. [01:31:34] <ffm> cool.
  29. [01:31:40] <johnjay> PibbRelay: hi
  30. [01:31:40] <PibbRelay> johnjay: Error: "hi" is not a valid command.
  31. [01:31:55] <ffm> johnjay: can I do it for my own room?
  32. [01:32:52] <johnjay> ffm: Well I know PibbRelay is also used @ #twisted ... I'd imagine so but you'd probably have to ask the maintainer
  33. [01:33:12] <johnjay> I don't think the actual relay client is available for the public
  34. [01:33:56] <johnjay> ffm: is a channel on this network?
  35. [01:33:58] <ffm> any idea why pibb rejects my annon openid?
  36. [01:34:03] <ffm> johnjay: yepper. #olpc-es
  37. [01:34:14] <ffm> johnjay: owner wants everything to be openid'd.
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  39. [01:34:58] <johnjay> ffm: I don't know why it would...I personally haven't tried with my own OP but with Y!
  40. [01:35:15] <johnjay> why it wouldn't even
  41. [01:35:18] <ffm> johnjay: it's the http://www.jkg.in/openid/
  42. [01:36:17] <johnjay> Is your server 2.0?
  43. [01:37:32] <ffm> johnjay: its not mine, its just the de facto annon openid provider. (no auth)
  44. [01:37:53] <johnjay> Ahh
  45. [01:37:57] <johnjay> Yeah that might be why
  46. [01:38:07] <johnjay> I don't know Pibb's internally
  47. [01:40:28] <ffm> btw, are there any free delegation sites?
  48. [01:40:56] <ffm> that don't do their own openid, but let you delegate elsewhere? (I don't want to use "ffm.verisignlabs.com" and may want to change in the future)
  49. [01:42:36] <ffm> johnjay: is pibb oss?
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  51. [02:06:12] <_keturn> pibb blacklists jkg.in. it's sort of futile to blacklist OPs, since you can always start another one under another name, but servers that are known to have no authentication are considered to not provide valuable contributions to the discussion
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  53. [02:12:07] <ffm> _keturn: ah.
  54. [02:12:08] * ffm is awya.
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  60. [04:42:48] <PibbRelay> <tjgillies> anyone alive in here?
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  62. [04:44:12] <PibbRelay> <tjgillies> test
  63. [04:44:29] <Aloha> sweet pibbrelay works
  64. [04:45:04] <PibbRelay> <tjgillies> But does it parse?
  65. [04:45:17] <Aloha> ooo it does.
  66. [04:45:19] <Aloha> yummy
  67. [04:45:46] <PibbRelay> <tjgillies> item one item two item three
  68. [04:45:57] <Aloha> nice
  69. [04:47:00] <PibbRelay> <tjgillies> &lt;object width="425" height="355"&gt;&lt;param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/Rapp5xQE8Qc"&gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;param name="wmode" value="transparent"&gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/Rapp5xQE8Qc" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="355"&gt;&lt;/embed&gt;&lt;/object&gt;
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  71. [05:09:58] <Aloha> priidu_: hihi
  72. [05:16:51] <PibbRelay> <tjgillies> channel is pretty dead eh?
  73. [05:18:00] <chuck> should an openid server have its own interface for setting extra things like username/email/etc for a site?
  74. [05:18:16] <chuck> i know some openid servers do, but the one i use for my shell service doesn't, and it doesn't work for some sites
  75. [05:19:20] <PibbRelay> <tjgillies> i use myopenid.com since thats the one that seems to work for most. i used to use claimid but it wasn't working on a blog i use
  76. [05:24:06] <chuck> tjgillies: i'm running my own openid provider
  77. [05:26:15] <PibbRelay> <tjgillies> chuck: gotcha
  78. [05:29:18] <chuck> i love the server a lot, it's perfect for what i needed as it uses PAM authentication, but i don't know if it's the latest openid protocol or whatever
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  84. [07:13:36] <GabeW> tav: ping back
  85. [07:14:07] <tav> y0
  86. [07:14:19] <GabeW> just saying hi
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  90. [07:40:04] <Aloha> what are the top openid sites?
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  147. [12:35:07] <PibbRelay> <ahazu> Hi.. I'm trying to find something about PAPE policies, but http://schemas.openid.net/pape/policies/ seems to be unaccessible..
  148. [12:35:50] <PibbRelay> <ahazu> Doesn't seem to be anything on schemas.openid.net at all ..
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  150. [12:40:32] <PibbRelay> <ahazu> Is this just a temporary glitch, or has it been permanently moved?
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  162. [14:24:14] <jibot> TedThibodeauJr is a Technology Evangelist from http://www.openlinksw.com/ and a Troublemaker from Way Back
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  173. [17:01:19] <montagg> I had a delegation question. Say you have a bunch of accounts on other sites that suddenly support using their service as an identity provider: a Yahoo account, a blogger account, a wordpress blog, whatever. Is it possible (or advisable) to put several openid.server and openid.delegate links on your homepage?
  174. [17:02:07] <montagg> Trying to figure out a solution to tie these accounts together when each service doesn't always support logging in via OpenID.
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  184. [18:10:43] <munga> I'd like to write an openid auth plugin for gforge. I see a number of consumer libraries. Can you recommend one in particular ? Ideally perl or php ...
  185. [18:23:49] <_keturn> of the two, php libraries for OpenID are currently better supported than those for perl
  186. [18:25:25] <_keturn> I'd recommend the libraries at openidenabled.com, but I'm one of the maintainers so I might be biased. ;)
  187. [18:26:53] <_keturn> montagg: you can't put several openid.server links in a HTML page, but you can put several OpenID endpoints in an XRDS file
  188. [18:27:18] <_keturn> but that may not do what you want in terms of tying accounts together
  189. [18:27:44] <_keturn> the closest thing there is to that is something like the social graph stuff Brad is doing with Google
  190. [18:29:02] <montagg> _keturn: I haven't heard of that. I'll have to check it out.
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  192. [18:32:00] <montagg> _keturn: Yeah, this looks like what I had in mind. Although, on Brad's website, he does pretty much what I would do: just list everything.
  193. [18:34:31] <montagg> The post I'm looking at: http://bradfitz.com/social-graph-problem/
  194. [18:34:39] <munga> _keturn: thanks ! in fact the consumer example in you library is what I was looking for. :)
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  197. [18:50:44] <_keturn> montagg: and after that was written, there is http://code.google.com/apis/socialgraph/
  198. [18:54:20] <montagg> _keturn: Sweet. Looks cool.
  199. [18:58:15] <montagg> _keturn: Do you know if Brad's collaborating with Berners-Lee and his semantic web stuff? (I know very little about either, only that they sound similar.)
  200. [19:00:04] <_keturn> I'm not aware of any direct collaboration between the two, but the things mentioned there like XFN and FOAF are things that I believe did grow out of the semantic web movement
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  202. [19:09:18] <GabeW> fwiw, eekim and I were talking about hCard and/or FOAF/XFN discovery during the openid auth process
  203. [19:37:46] <TedThibodeauJr> (you're all aware of #foaf, yes? and the recent revival of foafbot a/k/a sparqlbot? worth exploring!)
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  208. [20:27:13] <Techboy> Has anyone here implemented OpenID as a consumer with JanRain?
  209. [20:27:44] <Techboy> If so, was it fairly straight-forward? :-)
  210. [20:28:29] <Techboy> No? Okay, I'll be the first then ;-)
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  223. [22:36:50] <PibbRelay> <tjgillies> how do i setup relay to work with my irc channel?
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  229. [23:10:38] <jibot> tav is from london, uk and can be found at plex:tav
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  231. [23:24:12] <jibot> sanedragon is an engineer for JanRain named Dag
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