IRC Log for #openid on 2008-04-07
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- [10:53:20] <nicomen>
greetings
- [10:53:48] <nicomen>
I need a standalone consumer I can install locally without too many dependencies to test an openid server, suggestions?
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- [15:34:33] <donomo>
nicomen: drupal
- [15:35:05] <nicomen>
donomo: wouldn't that depend on mysql, php, apache etc?
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- [15:35:19] <donomo>
nicomen: yes.
- [15:35:36] <donomo>
that seems like not too many dependencies to me :)
- [15:35:52] <nicomen>
can you have more dependencies? ;D
- [15:36:10] <donomo>
sure. obscure php pear modules
- [15:36:18] <donomo>
memcache
- [15:36:28] <donomo>
ruby
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drupal is like 4 clicks to setup after unzipping
- [15:39:11] <nicomen>
really?
- [15:39:21] <nicomen>
apt-get install drupal?
- [15:39:44] <donomo>
well maybe its a bit more complicatied that that. it asks for the mysql login information and db name.
- [15:39:49] <donomo>
im not sure if there is a deb package
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- [15:43:01] <nicomen>
hehe ok
- [15:43:06] <nicomen>
trying out poidsy first
- [15:43:36] <donomo>
neat.
- [15:44:04] <donomo>
oh hey if you want a consumer, why not login at one of the existing sites that take openid?
- [15:44:19] <donomo>
rather than setup your own deal, just login to jyte.com or something
- [15:47:25] <nicomen>
donomo: because my server is not available from the interwebs ;)
- [15:47:33] <nicomen>
but poidsy seemed to work out of the box-ish
- [15:47:39] <nicomen>
untar in /var/www that is ;)
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- [16:35:16] <zodiak>
nicomen jst install Net::OpenID::Consumer under perl and then you can use LWP to 'request' against the server
- [16:35:50] <zodiak>
in that way, you can even stress-test your server by using multi-threads ;)
- [16:37:26] <keturn>
there are also example consumers that will serve well enough for testing purposes in each of the example libraries at openidenabled.com (ruby, php, python)
- [16:38:51] <keturn>
I guess the ruby one depends on rails, the python one depends on django, and the php one depends on php... but they're pretty quick to get running.
- [16:39:43] <zodiak>
actually, I believe that the ruby one works from ruby, you don't need to install rails
- [16:40:35] <zodiak>
if it doesn't, I will shoot whoever called it a 'Ruby' library rather than Rails plugin ;
- [16:40:37] <zodiak>
;)
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- [16:41:33] <keturn>
well, the *library* doesn't require rails, but the running example that we use to show how you would actually use that library in a web application does
- [16:44:50] <nicomen>
zodiak: that one doesn't actually try to authenticate for real
- [16:44:58] <nicomen>
I have it already running
- [16:45:48] <keturn>
zodiak: but I'm glad to hear someone say that, because there are a heck of a lot of people who look at me like I have three heads when I say ruby-openid doesn't have tighter rails integration because there are people who use ruby but *not rails*
- [16:46:02] <keturn>
they think I'm making that up ;)
- [16:49:16] <zodiak>
keturn well, your probably talking to one of the rubyists out there .. I started with ruby about 6 years back now, I like the influx from rails - surely - but, there are a -lot- of people who think Rails -is- Ruby .. and that ..well.
- [16:49:23] <zodiak>
you have my vote, for what it's worth :)
- [16:50:08] <zodiak>
nicomen are you sure ? there is probably some 'test' switch in the README or.. some such. I can't imagine anyone would release a library that couldn't authenticate 'for real' ;p
- [16:54:16] <nicomen>
zodiak: sorry I mis-spoke
- [16:54:47] <nicomen>
I was referring to Test::OpenID::Consumer
- [16:57:08] <zodiak>
nicomen ah, not a problem, but you definitely want Net::OpenID.. etcetc ;>
- [16:58:57] <nicomen>
zodiak: yeah I'm using the Server part
- [16:59:03] <nicomen>
the documentation is scarce though
- [16:59:20] <nicomen>
and I have still not found any examples or tutorials
- [16:59:33] <nicomen>
it's almost easier to just implement the oid spec oneself
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- [17:00:37] <zodiak>
sort of agreed.. in the case of consumer, it's always a good idea to read the pod documentation (either man Net::OpenID::Consumer, http://search.cpan.org/~bradfitz/Net-OpenID-Consumer-0.14/lib/Net/OpenID/Consumer.pm or if you podweb installed - use that ;)
- [17:01:08] <zodiak>
there is a step by step perl example on the consumer.pm ;)
- [17:02:40] <zodiak>
perl -MCPAN -e 'install Pod::Webserver' - best thing I did since I started using Smart::Comments ;>
- [17:03:35] <nicomen>
yeah it's the server part I'm struggling with
- [17:03:54] <zodiak>
oh .. *blinks* sorry, I thought you were looking for a consumer. my bad.
- [17:04:32] <nicomen>
I do, but only to test my implementation of the server ;)
- [17:05:11] <zodiak>
ah :D
- [17:05:36] <nicomen>
wow, smart::comments <3
- [17:06:27] <zodiak>
yup, Smart::Comments is ab-so-lutely a brilliant idea (like Class::Contract .. which is ripped straight from Eiffel ;)
- [17:09:04] <zodiak>
sorry that I can't help you on the server part, I haven't been particularly "motivated" to do that myself. I mostly stick to the consumer side of things.
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