IRC Log for #openid on 2008-04-08

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  13. [03:15:52] <donomo> "OpenID authentication cannot be completed until the domain myopenid.com for this identifier (http://donpdonp.myopenid.com) has been verified. "
  14. [03:15:55] <donomo> whaaa?
  15. [03:16:45] <zodiak> donomo do you have a web browser window/tab open and is it logged into your myopenid account ?
  16. [03:16:56] <donomo> zodiak: yes
  17. [03:17:34] <zodiak> and your trying putting the url into your consumer or is this your own server that you trying to create ?
  18. [03:18:00] <donomo> im using my own domain donpark.org which is delegated to myopenid
  19. [03:18:06] <donomo> into my own drupal site
  20. [03:18:18] <donomo> this looks like a myopenid bug to me
  21. [03:19:37] <zodiak> highly doubtful, probably more a configuration or your server setup issue
  22. [03:20:06] <donomo> nothing has changed on this end. im pretty familiar with openid
  23. [03:20:17] <donomo> used to work great
  24. [03:20:30] <zodiak> and 'all of a sudden' things stopped working ?
  25. [03:20:55] <donomo> yes
  26. [03:21:01] <donomo> 'your domains' looks like a new myopenid feature
  27. [03:25:15] <donomo> zodiak: what id provider do you use
  28. [03:26:17] <zodiak> myopenid .. but I don't use it in the style you do
  29. [03:29:07] <donomo> zodiak: i just tried to login to pibb.com with http://donpdonp.myopenid.com and got the same error.
  30. [03:29:13] <donomo> zodiak: can you login to that service?
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  32. [03:30:53] <zodiak> yup.. works peachy for me
  33. [03:31:08] * donomo scratches his head
  34. [03:32:28] <donomo> a twitter friend is having the same problem
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  42. [05:19:28] <keturn> donomo: eeek-
  43. [05:19:34] <keturn> by which I mean, eeek
  44. [05:20:15] <keturn> donomo: that started happening today?
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  46. [05:20:44] <donomo> keturn: not sure just when
  47. [05:20:51] <donomo> havent used my openid account for a few days
  48. [05:21:15] <keturn> but it was probably working on, say, Thursday?
  49. [05:21:41] <donomo> hmm. cant say for sure.
  50. [05:21:47] <donomo> i dont use it all that often.
  51. [05:21:52] <donomo> but last week is probably a good guess
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  95. [13:19:25] <jibot> TedThibodeauJr is a Technology Evangelist from http://www.openlinksw.com/ and a Troublemaker from Way Back
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  111. [16:12:41] <hogejo> hello guys! I'm here again with some developer questions :)
  112. [16:13:55] <hogejo> An openID identifier can only be a http://myname.provider.com, or can be like http://openid.provider.com/myname too?
  113. [16:14:48] <trel1023> either
  114. [16:15:01] <trel1023> any URL
  115. [16:15:30] <hogejo> thanks trel1023. this was the first one. the second question is, to be a 100%, or at least 100 percent reliable provider, can I simply use the JanRain PHP library?
  116. [16:16:05] <hogejo> so with JanRain PHP libs, can I set up reliable multi-user provider/server?
  117. [16:16:38] <trel1023> definitely
  118. [16:16:50] <hogejo> great :)
  119. [16:16:51] <trel1023> server code written by you of course - but using those libs
  120. [16:17:12] <trel1023> most of the open/shared server implementations are lacking at this point
  121. [16:17:30] <hogejo> great :)
  122. [16:17:50] <hogejo> my "network profile" website will be like "kick-ass" supporting OpenID :)
  123. [16:18:20] <hogejo> anyway it is not as easy like calling some functions and done. - i assume :)
  124. [16:19:41] <hogejo> trel1023: how do You, personally look at an ID if it is: openid.yourprovider.com/yourname ?
  125. [16:19:54] <hogejo> in contrast with yourname.provider.com of course
  126. [16:20:12] <trel1023> you mean, whether i like it? for myself?
  127. [16:20:16] <trel1023> i use my own domain and delegate
  128. [16:20:33] <trel1023> gives maximum flexibility later
  129. [16:20:53] <hogejo> okay. most "pros" use it that way. but If you would be an "average internet user"
  130. [16:20:54] <trel1023> to change services/providers without changing your url
  131. [16:21:26] <trel1023> if asking from a provider standpoint - it's easier to manage a namespace that's not subdomains - but some people like it
  132. [16:21:34] <trel1023> at claimid - we use /username
  133. [16:22:12] <hogejo> I definitely want to use /username - for the same reason
  134. [16:23:03] <hogejo> does it interfere with your other pages? Okay of course you do not have users like index.html :) or you have a different subdomain as I would like to do it?
  135. [16:23:19] <trel1023> right - we have a blocklist
  136. [16:23:27] <trel1023> alternately, you could do
  137. [16:23:33] <trel1023> or something like it
  138. [16:23:39] <trel1023> /my/username
  139. [16:23:56] <trel1023> id/username
  140. [16:23:59] <trel1023> something like that
  141. [16:24:24] <hogejo> yes. It is easy, but I want them to be easy to remember also
  142. [16:24:39] <trel1023> if your site is otherwise pretty simple
  143. [16:24:41] <trel1023> just use a blocklist
  144. [16:24:48] <trel1023> and map out what your site will do cleanly ahead of time
  145. [16:25:17] <trel1023> or use something like /public/ for all your own pages
  146. [16:25:29] <trel1023> but yes, definitely a balance
  147. [16:25:52] <trel1023> site.com/allyourpages
  148. [16:25:52] <trel1023> and
  149. [16:25:53] <hogejo> and a big task to keep it balanced
  150. [16:25:58] <trel1023> openid.site.com/usernames
  151. [16:26:03] <trel1023> may be the best balance
  152. [16:26:29] <hogejo> I thought the same too
  153. [16:26:51] <hogejo> and who wants it to be shorter, I will alias id.site.com and things like that
  154. [16:28:40] <hogejo> do you use JanRain libs at claimid?
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  156. [16:30:54] <trel1023> yes, ruby
  157. [16:33:28] <hogejo> I assume the ruby and php versions do not really differ
  158. [16:33:45] <hogejo> so I should be successful too
  159. [16:34:06] <trel1023> well, they're different code - but they're written to spec
  160. [16:34:11] <trel1023> yes, don't worry about the libs
  161. [16:34:15] <trel1023> they've had many eyes
  162. [16:34:36] <hogejo> one more question before I go
  163. [16:34:47] <hogejo> how many developers are there at claimid?
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  166. [16:42:28] <hogejo> sorry i have to go now. thank you for the help trel!
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  174. [17:18:37] <donomo> keturn: myopenid logins are working for me again. yea.
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  183. [21:37:49] <forsaken> is there a reason that the openID server shouldn't hold a persons personal information (sreg), and when you register it remembers your OpenID, and if you change any of your info (email/etc) on the server, and whenever you login to the end site, it checks the server for your sreg stuff, and can update your profile accordingly? (or atleast ask if you want to update it)
  184. [21:38:31] <forsaken> allowing the openid server to hold the 'authoritative' set of your personal info
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