IRC Log for #openid on 2008-04-22

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  7. [03:21:27] <technoweenie> hey is anyone in here experienced w/ the ruby-openid lib
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  10. [03:26:11] <rburbach> hi all
  11. [03:27:58] <rburbach> I'm running rails 2.0.2 and I've installed and set up ruby-openid and I am getting a 'no such file to load -- openid/extensions/sreg' error when i try to any page in my project
  12. [03:28:02] <rburbach> any ideas?
  13. [03:37:43] <technoweenie> should be using ruby-openid 2.0.4 and the open_id_authentication plugin
  14. [03:38:46] <technoweenie> get the latest version of the open_id_authentication plugin from git: http://github.com/josh/open_id_authentication/tree/master
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  16. [03:44:37] <rburbach> techno I'll give that a shot
  17. [03:44:52] <rburbach> I have those both installed but not from github
  18. [03:45:43] <technoweenie> ruby-openid isn't on githug, 2.0.4 is the latest
  19. [03:45:47] <technoweenie> githug heh
  20. [03:45:56] <technoweenie> do you see "Install the ruby-openid gem to enable OpenID support" when you do script/console
  21. [03:46:08] <technoweenie> if not, do "puts OpenID::VERSION"
  22. [03:46:48] <technoweenie> openid/extensions/sreg is required by the open_id_authentication rails plugin
  23. [03:46:52] <rburbach> that returns 2.04
  24. [03:46:55] <technoweenie> and im quite sure its in ruby-openid 2.0.4
  25. [03:47:07] <rburbach> 2.0.4 I mean
  26. [03:47:57] <rburbach> yeah, that's why I am a little stumped
  27. [03:48:31] <technoweenie> in script/console does "OpenID::SReg" give you any errors
  28. [03:49:01] <technoweenie> OpenID::SReg ; reload! ; OpenID::SReg
  29. [03:49:12] <technoweenie> i hope you restarted yoru rails process after loading the gem and plugin
  30. [03:49:18] <rburbach> yeah NameError: uninitialized constant OpenID::SReg
  31. [03:49:26] <technoweenie> funky
  32. [03:49:37] <rburbach> indeed
  33. [03:49:44] <technoweenie> ok try this
  34. [03:49:51] <technoweenie> in bash or wahtever your shell is... "gem env gemdir"
  35. [03:49:51] <rburbach> could something be up with how my gems are loading?
  36. [03:49:55] <technoweenie> possibly
  37. [03:50:17] <rburbach> k
  38. [03:50:23] <rburbach> I got the dir
  39. [03:50:32] <technoweenie> ls /Library/Ruby/Gems/1.8/gems/ruby-openid-2.0.4/lib/openid/extensions
  40. [03:50:46] <technoweenie> though replace "/Library/Ruby/Gems/1.8" with whatever your gemdir was
  41. [03:50:56] <technoweenie> ls `gem env gemdir`/ems/ruby-openid-2.0.4/lib/openid/extensions
  42. [03:51:06] <rburbach> I got: ax.rb pape.rb sreg.rb
  43. [03:51:12] <technoweenie> see thats the file right there
  44. [03:51:15] <technoweenie> sreg.rb
  45. [03:52:03] <rburbach> yeah
  46. [03:52:22] <technoweenie> i dont konw, i think you've got somehting else going on w/ your ruby setup
  47. [03:52:49] <rburbach> odd - I haven't had trouble with gems until yesterday
  48. [03:53:36] <rburbach> any ideas where to start on tracking that down?
  49. [03:53:50] <technoweenie> i just gave you them :)
  50. [03:54:00] <rburbach> haha :)
  51. [03:54:13] <technoweenie> beyond that... shit man.
  52. [03:54:21] <technoweenie> you dont have like 2 rubys installed or anything like that do you
  53. [03:55:13] <rburbach> not to my knowledge :) I haven't touched my gem setup in a long time
  54. [03:57:10] <rburbach> maybe a fresh gem setup is in order
  55. [03:57:29] <rburbach> in fact I ran into some trouble with the ruport gem this weekend
  56. [03:57:37] <technoweenie> hold on a sec
  57. [03:57:41] <rburbach> maybe they are related, hmmm...
  58. [03:57:47] <rburbach> k
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  60. [03:59:28] <technoweenie> OpenID::SReg doesnt work in script/console for me either
  61. [03:59:46] <rburbach> oh really?...
  62. [04:00:08] <technoweenie> but i started a brand new app w/ rails 2.0.2, loaded the open_id_auth plugin, and created a controller w/ this as the index:
  63. [04:00:08] <technoweenie> render :text => "using_open_id?: #{using_open_id?.inspect} : #{OpenID::SReg}"
  64. [04:00:11] <technoweenie> works fine
  65. [04:00:32] <technoweenie> i'm also on rubygems 1.1.1
  66. [04:01:13] <rburbach> hmm
  67. [04:01:30] <technoweenie> but 1.0.1 should be fine.. *shrug*
  68. [04:01:38] <rburbach> lemme see if I can get that to render for me
  69. [04:05:47] <rburbach> I tried that and get the same no such file to load -- openid/extensions/sreg
  70. [04:06:01] <technoweenie> weird
  71. [04:07:24] <rburbach> yah so that seems like a gem problem
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  73. [04:10:03] <rburbach> well I am too tired to fight with this tonight
  74. [04:11:12] <rburbach> headed to railsconf techno?
  75. [04:11:55] <technoweenie> yep
  76. [04:12:04] <technoweenie> its being held a few miles from my office
  77. [04:12:25] <rburbach> oh nice, no reason not to then - I am looking forward to it
  78. [04:12:32] <technoweenie> me too
  79. [04:13:09] <rburbach> I couldn't make it last year - and I've never been to portland :)
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  81. [04:29:05] <rburbach> thanks for the help techno, I'm out
  82. [04:29:15] <technoweenie> np sorry i couldnt be more help
  83. [04:32:21] <rburbach> no prob at least I know where to start from now
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  91. [07:17:26] <lulurun> miyagawa: is sixapart's perl openid2 module licensed under BSD ?
  92. [07:17:57] <miyagawa> lulurun: no it's Artistic/GPL2 afaik
  93. [07:19:20] <lulurun> thank you very much, I am a perl developer, I saw your post at Jaiku
  94. [07:19:51] <miyagawa> Hmm Jaiku. I guess it's a crosspost from twitter :)
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  107. [09:50:45] <tils> hi everybody. I'm about to add openid registration to an app and wonder if it's ok to show the users openid identifier on the public profile
  108. [09:51:16] <tils> googling for an opinion on this returned mixed results so far
  109. [09:53:46] <Chaz6> tils: Like all personal information you should allow the user to decide
  110. [09:56:51] <tils> I'm just wondering if I can use the openid identifier as fallback to represent the user on the site. until now it required a login name unique within the site, but I'd like to remove that restriction
  111. [09:58:03] <tils> if the user can decide on signup, I need to confront him/her with more options. It would be cool to be able to just drop in your openid identifier, submit and done
  112. [10:01:23] <Chaz6> Personally I like the idea in theory, but in practice it doesn't work out that well. I think that the user should have a unique login name, although you could short circuit it by using something like openid-[openid] as the username for a quick signup
  113. [10:02:47] <tils> I guess it depends what kind of site it is. In my case I'd like to offer it as a service that provides a specific utility only, and users should manage their identity elsewhere
  114. [10:03:49] <tils> so the requirement for a unique name within the site is just becoming a burden
  115. [10:04:00] <Chaz6> In that case, you could go for openid only
  116. [10:04:36] <tils> do you think it would be considered impolite if that openid is then visible publicly? I'm trying to search for precendes right now
  117. [10:05:05] <tils> I could also just show my site-internal integer id if the user hasn't entered anything else, that at least is automatically unique
  118. [10:06:34] <tils> but showing the openid identifier of course would be more interesting and allow for discovering the users identity, even automatically to a certain extent
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  120. [10:40:03] <tjohns> My personal opinion is that it's not really a problem to display a user's identifier, especially with OpenID 2.0's directed identity feature.
  121. [10:40:48] <tils> i visited some random pages from the myopenid directory, and found only this one that does it by default: http://www.treasurelicious.com , and the plaxo openid recipe says it is bad practice
  122. [10:41:23] <tils> (I mean this http://www.plaxo.com/api/openid_recipe which seems to be a popular tutorial for implementing openid)
  123. [10:42:47] <tjohns> Jyte.com does it
  124. [10:43:18] <tjohns> Pibb displays a nickname instead of an OpenID, but the OpenID is publicly visible in everybody's profile
  125. [10:43:36] <tils> indeed
  126. [10:43:47] <tjohns> So, like you said, there's still no consensus. :)
  127. [10:44:22] <tils> right ... I guess I can freely choose then
  128. [10:44:47] <tjohns> From a security standpoint, there's no harm. It's purely a privacy issue.
  129. [10:45:38] <tils> I could tell the user on the form where s/he enters the openid identifier, that it's going to be displayed publicly
  130. [10:46:01] <tjohns> I think that's a good idea.
  131. [10:47:00] <tils> which may scare away some who don't understand it. oh well
  132. [10:53:34] <etnt> do there exist a document that specify all the possible openid parameters?
  133. [10:55:31] <tils> etnt: this one http://openid.net/specs/openid-authentication-2_0.html ?
  134. [10:55:50] <tils> I guess searching for 'openid.' should find all possible parameters
  135. [10:57:39] <etnt> hm...I think it is confusing, since some parameters seem to be ok (possibly 1.x ones) that aren't described in the 2.0 spec
  136. [10:58:27] <tjohns> Ya, a few things were renamed between 1.x and 2.0.
  137. [10:58:51] <etnt> a matrix that collected all parameters would be very useful
  138. [10:59:06] <tjohns> Agreed.
  139. [10:59:42] <etnt> reading the spec is confusing, I tend to jump back and forth trying to remeber when certain parameters are ok and not
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  149. [11:50:12] <Pjotr> hey
  150. [11:50:54] <Pjotr> I'm looking for some as official as possible document on OpenID
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  152. [12:05:54] <etnt> www.openid.net
  153. [12:07:01] <Pjotr> I haven't found any good technical overview there, that would not be some all-the-way thechnical document (these .pdf files with specs)
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  157. [12:33:19] <etnt> Pjotr: www.openidbook.com
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  164. [13:23:16] <Pjotr> thanks
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  192. [17:36:10] <DB42> can i open an auth server on my home connection /
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  194. [17:46:01] <DB42> can i open an auth server on my home connection ?
  195. [17:48:42] <DB42> can i point yahoo openid server to my domain for auth ?
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  218. [20:10:04] * lc0258112 is now known as darren-b
  219. [20:10:05] <darren-b> hi
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  232. [22:51:20] * benOFFvic is now known as benovic
  233. [23:20:32] <Chaz6> Adding support for OpenID in Mozilla's Bugzilla is GSOC project
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