IRC Log for #openid on 2009-10-03
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- [00:01:47] <sfuentes_>
thank you samsm
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- [00:45:49] <uramaget>
Is using rpxnow acceptable over manually using the python-openid package?
- [00:46:22] <flaccid>
uramaget: sure
- [00:46:43] <flaccid>
Brend samsm yangman interesting convo i missed there..
- [00:47:34] <samsm>
Anything you'd like to add? :)
- [00:49:56] <flaccid>
i dunno, i closed my notebook lid so i probably missed the end of it haha
- [00:50:38] <flaccid>
i saw it to be the typical uptake issue + people commenting on ignorance..
- [00:50:56] <samsm>
Exactly that.
- [00:51:50] <flaccid>
the whole LP openid debarcle continues to annoy me
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- [00:52:58] <flaccid>
good to see keturn put a few cents in there on that thread
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- [04:52:07] * Topic is 'http://openid.net || Got OpenID library questions? Check stackoverflow.com.'
- [04:52:07] * Set by keturn on Fri Jun 26 02:48:11 CEST 2009
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- [18:26:32] <natschil>
I'm a bit confused about the security model of openId...If your OpenID url is public, how can a user authenticate with it? I'm guessing that an OpenID user can only authenticate with openID if that user has an authentication session with you openId provider in the current browser and this is stored as a cookie or so... am I correct in assuming this?
- [18:30:40] <qwp0>
natschil: basically yes, if you're not logged in to your OpenID provider, you'll be redirected to its login page in order to do so
- [18:33:00] <natschil>
qwp0: so this authentication is done at the user level...how does the server the user is trying to log in to verify that the response it gets (encoded into an URL query string, I assume) is valid?
- [18:34:25] <yangman>
there's a chain of trust going from identity -> endpoint
- [18:34:43] <yangman>
and the protocol between the relying party and endpoint is designed in a secure way
- [18:35:49] <yangman>
and both the relying party and endpoint keep a private secret they use to verify messages from the other
- [18:39:51] <karstensrage>
but its an adhoc chain of trust
- [18:40:10] <karstensrage>
basically meeting someone off the street and establishing a chain of trust right there and then
- [18:41:46] <karstensrage>
which is why you see things like OpenID being used in Gov 2.0 with 10 specific OpenID providers, and the actual implementation with ONE
- [18:42:03] <karstensrage>
very !Open
- [18:42:10] <keturn>
really, the component the trust hinges off most is DNS. (And, in some cases, the SSL certification hierarchy.)
- [18:43:12] <karstensrage>
any jehu can enter a MX record
- [18:43:36] <karstensrage>
if its SSL its not really OPen then is it
- [18:43:51] <karstensrage>
since you have to have established a trust relationship apriori
- [18:43:56] <karstensrage>
of some sort
- [19:02:39] <natschil>
ok, thanks.
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- [19:07:52] <karstensrage>
lol
- [19:07:59] <karstensrage>
i hope he left more confused than before :D
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