IRC Log for #openid on 2009-10-03

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  2. [00:01:47] <sfuentes_> thank you samsm
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  8. [00:45:49] <uramaget> Is using rpxnow acceptable over manually using the python-openid package?
  9. [00:46:22] <flaccid> uramaget: sure
  10. [00:46:43] <flaccid> Brend samsm yangman interesting convo i missed there..
  11. [00:47:34] <samsm> Anything you'd like to add? :)
  12. [00:49:56] <flaccid> i dunno, i closed my notebook lid so i probably missed the end of it haha
  13. [00:50:38] <flaccid> i saw it to be the typical uptake issue + people commenting on ignorance..
  14. [00:50:56] <samsm> Exactly that.
  15. [00:51:50] <flaccid> the whole LP openid debarcle continues to annoy me
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  17. [00:52:58] <flaccid> good to see keturn put a few cents in there on that thread
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  36. [04:52:07] * Topic is 'http://openid.net || Got OpenID library questions? Check stackoverflow.com.'
  37. [04:52:07] * Set by keturn on Fri Jun 26 02:48:11 CEST 2009
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  83. [18:26:32] <natschil> I'm a bit confused about the security model of openId...If your OpenID url is public, how can a user authenticate with it? I'm guessing that an OpenID user can only authenticate with openID if that user has an authentication session with you openId provider in the current browser and this is stored as a cookie or so... am I correct in assuming this?
  84. [18:30:40] <qwp0> natschil: basically yes, if you're not logged in to your OpenID provider, you'll be redirected to its login page in order to do so
  85. [18:33:00] <natschil> qwp0: so this authentication is done at the user level...how does the server the user is trying to log in to verify that the response it gets (encoded into an URL query string, I assume) is valid?
  86. [18:34:25] <yangman> there's a chain of trust going from identity -> endpoint
  87. [18:34:43] <yangman> and the protocol between the relying party and endpoint is designed in a secure way
  88. [18:35:49] <yangman> and both the relying party and endpoint keep a private secret they use to verify messages from the other
  89. [18:39:51] <karstensrage> but its an adhoc chain of trust
  90. [18:40:10] <karstensrage> basically meeting someone off the street and establishing a chain of trust right there and then
  91. [18:41:46] <karstensrage> which is why you see things like OpenID being used in Gov 2.0 with 10 specific OpenID providers, and the actual implementation with ONE
  92. [18:42:03] <karstensrage> very !Open
  93. [18:42:10] <keturn> really, the component the trust hinges off most is DNS. (And, in some cases, the SSL certification hierarchy.)
  94. [18:43:12] <karstensrage> any jehu can enter a MX record
  95. [18:43:36] <karstensrage> if its SSL its not really OPen then is it
  96. [18:43:51] <karstensrage> since you have to have established a trust relationship apriori
  97. [18:43:56] <karstensrage> of some sort
  98. [19:02:39] <natschil> ok, thanks.
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  100. [19:07:52] <karstensrage> lol
  101. [19:07:59] <karstensrage> i hope he left more confused than before :D
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