IRC Log for #openid on 2009-11-03

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  36. [09:48:46] <jfradj> i
  37. [09:48:47] <jfradj> hi
  38. [09:51:27] <jfradj> am I alone ? :'-(
  39. [10:06:47] <yangman> unfortunately
  40. [10:06:50] <yangman> I'm about to head to bed
  41. [10:08:52] <jfradj> lol
  42. [10:54:08] <jfradj> ok now are you awake ?
  43. [10:59:05] <jfradj> lol
  44. [10:59:28] <Brend> I am here, but if you have a question, I probably cannot answer it!
  45. [10:59:39] <jfradj> ah !
  46. [10:59:40] <jfradj> lol
  47. [10:59:44] <jfradj> We can try
  48. [10:59:57] <jfradj> I try to use your library
  49. [11:00:27] <jfradj> and i don't understand why the same request allow me to retrieve informations such firstanme, lastname... on google
  50. [11:00:30] <jfradj> and not on yahoo
  51. [11:00:54] <Brend> This is ... OAuth?
  52. [11:01:13] <jfradj> Openid2
  53. [11:01:39] <jfradj> I use this library http://openidenabled.com/php-openid/
  54. [11:01:59] <Brend> OpenID is just the login, not the exchange of information like names
  55. [11:02:29] <jfradj> no, openid allows a little exchange information
  56. [11:02:46] <jfradj> on the 1.1 version it was called SimpleRegistration
  57. [11:02:51] <jfradj> and with the new spec 2.0
  58. [11:02:59] <jfradj> it is called AX
  59. [11:03:02] <jfradj> Attributes eXchange
  60. [11:03:17] <jfradj> http://openid.net/specs/openid-attribute-exchange-1_0.html
  61. [11:03:33] <jfradj> moreover with google it's working
  62. [11:04:59] <jfradj> Here is an example of a google request
  63. [11:05:00] <jfradj> https://www.google.com/accounts/o8/id?
  64. [11:05:00] <jfradj> &openid.ns=http://specs.openid.net/auth/2.0
  65. [11:05:00] <jfradj> &openid.ns.pape=http://specs.openid.net/extensions/pape/1.0
  66. [11:05:00] <jfradj> &openid.ns.ax=http://openid.net/srv/ax/1.0
  67. [11:05:00] <jfradj> &openid.pape.preferred_auth_policies=
  68. [11:05:02] <jfradj> &openid.realm=http://localhost:80/php-openid-2.1.3/examples/consumer/
  69. [11:05:04] <jfradj> &openid.mode=checkid_setup
  70. [11:05:06] <jfradj> &openid.return_to=http://localhost:80/php-openid-2.1.3/examples/consumer/finish_auth.php?janrain_nonce=2009-11-03T09%3A34%3A28ZPIIA33
  71. [11:05:09] <jfradj> &openid.identity=http://specs.openid.net/auth/2.0/identifier_select
  72. [11:05:11] <jfradj> &openid.claimed_id=http://specs.openid.net/auth/2.0/identifier_select
  73. [11:05:13] <jfradj> &openid.assoc_handle=AOQobUeaeZxdkFxrfPC_uIiGjqS54E3jV53Hg78zNxOqCsP7voBhNDJy
  74. [11:05:15] <jfradj> &openid.ax.mode=fetch_request
  75. [11:05:17] <jfradj> &openid.ax.type.email=http://axschema.org/contact/email
  76. [11:05:19] <jfradj> &openid.ax.type.country=http://axschema.org/contact/country/home
  77. [11:05:21] <jfradj> &openid.ax.type.firstname=http://axschema.org/namePerson/first
  78. [11:05:23] <jfradj> &openid.ax.type.language=http://axschema.org/pref/language
  79. [11:05:25] <jfradj> &openid.ax.type.lastname=http://axschema.org/namePerson/last
  80. [11:05:29] <jfradj> &openid.ax.type.fullname=http://axschema.org/namePerson
  81. [11:05:31] <jfradj> &openid.ax.type.gender=http://axschema.org/person/gender
  82. [11:05:33] <jfradj> &openid.ax.required=email,country,firstname,language,lastname
  83. [11:05:35] <jfradj> &openid.ax.if_available=fullname,gender
  84. [11:05:40] <Brend> What I mean is, AX is an extension. Yahoo may support only core openID (auth only), or may place additional restrictions on AX
  85. [11:05:41] <jfradj> This is already working
  86. [11:06:08] <jfradj> ok you're probably right
  87. [11:06:09] <jfradj> but
  88. [11:06:21] <jfradj> I try to use this : https://rpxnow.com
  89. [11:06:27] <jfradj> it's a SSO provider
  90. [11:06:43] <jfradj> which can allow user to log on yahoo
  91. [11:06:56] <jfradj> and send me back the firstname, the lastname ...
  92. [11:08:38] <Brend> Looks like Yahoo may have an AX whitelist
  93. [11:08:42] <Brend> http://developer.yahoo.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=295
  94. [11:08:46] <Brend> http://developer.yahoo.net/blog/archives/2008/11/yahoo_openid_test.html
  95. [11:09:26] <jfradj> ohhh
  96. [11:09:27] <jfradj> ok
  97. [11:09:32] <jfradj> good links
  98. [11:09:48] <jfradj> I'm going to read now
  99. [11:09:53] <jfradj> thanks you very mucth
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  101. [11:11:09] <jfradj> they speaks about simple registration
  102. [11:11:10] <jfradj> sreg
  103. [11:11:13] <jfradj> and not ax
  104. [11:11:31] <jfradj> but maybe there do the same thing -ie white list) with ax extension
  105. [11:11:33] <jfradj> ...
  106. [11:11:56] <Brend> Yeah. It's all a big mess at the moment : )
  107. [11:13:25] <jfradj> yeahh it's seems unfortunately
  108. [11:14:30] <Brend> I remember when I was testing my auth code, Yahoo wouldn't take it, and I eventually figured out that I had to log into my Yahoo account on the web and enable it in some obscure part of the account settings
  109. [11:14:38] <Brend> And I was thinking, there is no way in hell my users are going to do this
  110. [11:14:54] <Brend> The whole point was to make it easier for them to log in to my website, not harder
  111. [11:15:02] <jfradj> lol
  112. [11:15:43] <jfradj> right now, I can easily let my users log in with all OP
  113. [11:15:54] <jfradj> but only yahoo don't send me back informations
  114. [11:16:17] <jfradj> it just send me if yes or no the authorization has been accepted
  115. [11:16:18] <jfradj> ...
  116. [11:22:41] <Brend> Yeah. Well that's all that OpenID auth itself is supposed to do :/
  117. [11:23:06] <Brend> And you may find that if you open a fresh new Yahoo account (via flickr, say) and try to log in via openID, that it won't take it
  118. [11:23:12] <Brend> until you go enable it in the yahoo account settings
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  128. [13:33:55] <ChazUK> Hey is anyone here available to answer a few questions
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  130. [13:36:26] <Brend> Maybe. Ask 'em!
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  150. [15:26:19] <Brend> Hooray, Slashdot's OpenID login doesn't work right
  151. [15:27:13] <Brend> Apparently my "=brendonh" XRI is an "invalid identity"
  152. [15:27:21] <Brend> They didn't read the Yadis spec too carefully, I reckon.
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  154. [15:31:43] <Brend> And ... neither did SourceForge
  155. [15:33:04] <singpolyma> XRI's aren't very well supported
  156. [15:33:17] <singpolyma> SourceForge doesn't support XRDS at all, even for real URLs
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  213. [22:03:47] * dwhittle_ (n=dwhittle@nat/yahoo/x-45aec16116299566) has joined #openid
  214. [22:08:17] * dwhittle (n=dwhittle@nat/yahoo/x-3b30bcb31a887b2a) Quit (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer))
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  216. [22:17:06] * ryanmerket (n=rmerket@out1-1601fw.corp.tfbnw.net) Quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
  217. [22:23:46] * dwhittle_ (n=dwhittle@nat/yahoo/x-45aec16116299566) Quit (Connection timed out)
  218. [22:27:46] * daedeloth (n=daedelot@ip-81-11-164-117.dsl.scarlet.be) Quit (Remote closed the connection)
  219. [22:28:09] * singpolyma (n=singpoly@node-6511.tor.pppoe.execulink.com) Quit ("Lost terminal")
  220. [22:30:50] * dwhittle (n=dwhittle@nat/yahoo/x-ee6807cb67c2d362) Quit (Client Quit)
  221. [23:00:36] * karstensrage (n=chatzill@70.42.238.2) Quit ("ChatZilla 0.8.31 [Mozilla rv:1.4.3/20040924]")
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  223. [23:31:54] * ryanmerket_ (n=rmerket@dsl081-053-212.sfo1.dsl.speakeasy.net) Quit (Remote closed the connection)
  224. [23:39:07] * marclaporte (n=Miranda@out.clearnet.com) Quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))

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