IRC Log for #microformats on 2006-01-23

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  1. [00:08:23] <factoryjoe> what?
  2. [00:10:40] <drumm> what am I supposed to do with the XMDP section of all the microformat specs?
  3. [00:11:03] <drumm> I'm thinking treat it like a DTD and ignore it unless I need to look at it
  4. [00:12:58] <factoryjoe> maybe
  5. [00:13:02] <factoryjoe> isn't that for media?
  6. [00:13:06] <factoryjoe> maybe Enric can help
  7. [00:15:29] <drumm> it almost seems like I'm supposed to include it in the html body somewhere, but I don't think so
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  11. [01:11:50] <bkdelong> evening. Everyone have a good weekend?
  12. [01:19:08] <Enric> pretty good, and u?
  13. [01:19:21] <bkdelong> decent.
  14. [01:19:39] <Enric> are you on the east coast?
  15. [01:20:15] <bkdelong> yup
  16. [01:20:37] <Enric> Yea...it's stay a bit of daylight here in Cali
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  21. [02:02:37] <mfbot> [[rel-license]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=rel-license&diff=0&oldid=4337 * Mir0N * (+4476)
  22. [02:04:03] <mfbot> [[rel-license]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=rel-license&diff=0&oldid=4338 * Patfm * (-4476) that was spam
  23. [02:05:11] <bkdelong> Thx patfm - beat me to it
  24. [02:05:48] <patfm> bkdelong: sure. can we nuke Mir0N somehow?
  25. [02:06:19] <bkdelong> Not sure. I think kingryan and tantek can
  26. [02:06:43] <patfm> if it went tot he trouble of making an acct it will probably be back
  27. [02:06:52] <patfm> adn could make this channel a living hell too :)
  28. [02:06:56] <bkdelong> right
  29. [02:11:54] <mfbot> [[Special:Log/block]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=Special:Log/block&diff=0&oldid=0 * RyanKing * (+0) blocked "User:Mir0N" with an expiry time of indefinite: spammer
  30. [02:11:55] <kingryan> :D
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  58. [08:34:55] <mfbot> [[cite]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=cite&diff=0&oldid=4339 * Tantek * (-3) typo
  59. [08:36:03] <KevinMarks> http://openrecord.org/dojo/2006-01-09/data_model_comparison.html
  60. [08:36:46] <mfbot> [[citation-brainstorming]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=citation-brainstorming&diff=0&oldid=4340 * Tantek * (+0) typo
  61. [08:39:43] <mfbot> [[citation-brainstorming]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=citation-brainstorming&diff=0&oldid=4341 * Tantek * (+164) agreed with Andy
  62. [08:40:59] <Tantek> Kevin, ugh, that seems like not much fun.
  63. [08:43:32] <Tantek> kingryan, should we move citation-brainstorming to rel-cite-brainstorming to make it clear that it is quite distinct from cite-brainstorming?
  64. [08:44:50] <KevinMarks> btw I helped some multilingula bloggers kisck off a process last night
  65. [08:45:04] <KevinMarks> http://microformats.org/wiki/multilingual-brainstorming
  66. [08:45:16] <KevinMarks> http://microformats.org/wiki/multilingual-examples
  67. [08:46:54] <mfbot> [[citation-brainstorming]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=citation-brainstorming&diff=0&oldid=4342 * Tantek * (+384)
  68. [08:47:11] <Tantek> KevinMarks, saw that
  69. [08:52:40] <mfbot> [[cite-brainstorming]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=cite-brainstorming&diff=0&oldid=4343 * Tantek * (+0) See also -
  70. [08:54:26] <mfbot> [[cite-examples]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=cite-examples&diff=0&oldid=4344 * Tantek * (-40) Example Citation Formats -
  71. [08:59:32] <mfbot> [[irc]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=irc&diff=0&oldid=4345 * Tantek * (-24) alphabetized People on irc
  72. [09:00:06] <Tantek> anyone seen TIm White here in #microformats?
  73. [09:09:33] <mfbot> [[irc]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=irc&diff=0&oldid=4346 * Tantek * (+24) People on irc -
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  91. [13:57:00] <jibot> dglazkov is Dimitri Glazkov (http://glazkov.com)
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  99. [16:00:40] <mfbot> [[examples]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=examples&diff=0&oldid=4347 * Tantek * (-32) Recommended sections -
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  101. [16:02:51] <mfbot> [[examples]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=examples&diff=0&oldid=4348 * Tantek * (+429) Good Examples of Examples -
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  105. [16:33:23] <mfbot> [[s5-tools]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=s5-tools&diff=0&oldid=4349 * Emeyer * (+63) Fixed some typos; added links to S5 page and my web site
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  107. [16:54:11] <jibot> hober is Edward O'Connor and works for EVDB on http://eventful.com/ and lives in San Diego, CA (-08:00)
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  116. [17:39:08] <jibot> trovster is a web developer from the UK who writes on http://www.trovster.com and runs www.csslounge.co.uk
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  120. [18:10:04] <jibot> RobertBachmann is Robert Bachmann <http://rbach.priv.at> and lives in Austria (Timezone: +01:00)
  121. [18:10:36] <RobertBachmann> ?forgetme
  122. [18:10:36] <jibot> I have expunged RobertBachmann from my mind
  123. [18:11:20] <RobertBachmann> ?learn RobertBachmann is Robert Bachmann <http://rbach.priv.at/> and lives in Austria (Timezone: +01:00)
  124. [18:11:20] <jibot> RobertBachmann is Robert Bachmann <http://rbach.priv.at/> and lives in Austria (Timezone: +01:00)
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  126. [18:13:36] <chryss> <emerging /> Wo in Österreich?
  127. [18:18:52] <RobertBachmann> Niederösterreich
  128. [18:23:54] <chryss> <erinnerung and urlaube in Annaberg, nicht weit von Mariazell />
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  131. [18:30:30] <RobertBachmann> ah
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  134. [18:35:23] <jibot> factoryjoe is Chris Messina, works for Flock, Bar Camp & Rhyzomatic & is working towards open source world domination & factorycityblug (http://factoryjoe.com/blog/) & looks like http://www.flickr.com/photos/dotben/70970770/
  135. [18:36:07] <bkdelong> That intro keeps growing.
  136. [18:36:23] <factoryjoe> heh
  137. [18:36:34] <mfbot> [[examples]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=examples&diff=0&oldid=4351 * Tantek * (+399) A Good Example Has
  138. [18:43:25] <mfbot> [[examples]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=examples&diff=0&oldid=4352 * Tantek * (+607) Real World Examples section
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  143. [19:46:15] <jibot> Enric is a media Software Developer and Videoblogger located at http://www.cirne.com
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  166. [21:52:22] <jibot> kingryan is ryan king
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  168. [21:53:24] <danja> kingryan, there's some stuff over in #swhack that might amuse you
  169. [21:53:45] <kingryan> about what, danja?
  170. [21:54:10] <danja> zacker's plugging microformats as semweb-a-like
  171. [21:54:15] <kingryan> cool
  172. [21:54:22] <danja> (regrettably also opml and rss ;-)
  173. [21:54:29] <kingryan> I see there's already "must have namespaces" pushback
  174. [21:54:49] <danja> where?
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  176. [21:54:56] <jibot> tantek is Tantek <http://tantek.com> and works on Technorati and develops microformats <http://microformats.org>
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  179. [21:55:05] <kingryan> in #swhack, danja
  180. [21:55:49] <factoryjoe> what is swhack?
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  183. [21:56:04] <danja> nother channel - philosophers and madmen
  184. [21:56:09] <factoryjoe> kingryan, tantek: i'll be posting about rorweb
  185. [21:56:17] <tantek> why?
  186. [21:56:17] <factoryjoe> (and meaningfuel.com ugh)
  187. [21:56:19] <kingryan> rorweb?
  188. [21:56:32] <tantek> is there anything there beyond a bunch of invisible specs for sale?
  189. [21:56:35] <factoryjoe> b/c it's a great example in support of microformats
  190. [21:56:49] <tantek> AFAICT it's not even worth mentioning.
  191. [21:56:52] <factoryjoe> it also works to explain why g-base suckz0r
  192. [21:57:05] <factoryjoe> tantek: i think it serves to illustrate a point
  193. [21:57:25] <tantek> there are a zillion lone-crackpot-inventor efforts, don't bother trying to keep up with refuting them etc., you'll just spend all your time doing so
  194. [21:58:04] <factoryjoe> hmm
  195. [21:58:08] <tantek> seriously
  196. [21:58:14] <tantek> if you want to help with stuff like that
  197. [21:58:25] <tantek> there's a bunch more important things to do listed here: http;//microformats.org/wiki/to-do
  198. [21:58:27] <factoryjoe> having anti-examples is sometimes useful for contrast
  199. [21:58:36] <tantek> http://microformats.org/wiki/to-do
  200. [21:58:42] <factoryjoe> i'm more interested in explaining this stuff
  201. [21:58:46] <tantek> factoryjoe, there are plenty of those already
  202. [21:58:55] <kingryan> factoryjoe == talking head
  203. [21:59:20] <tantek> there are plenty of *decent* anti-examples that is
  204. [21:59:28] <tantek> no need to stoop to the level of the ROR type stuff
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  206. [22:00:35] <jibot> zacker is working at CivicSpace Labs : www.civicspacelabs.org
  207. [22:01:08] <factoryjoe> tantek: i guess i could go attack google base instead
  208. [22:01:13] <factoryjoe> directly
  209. [22:01:21] <tantek> yes
  210. [22:01:23] <kingryan> or ignore it
  211. [22:02:05] * tantek sets mode +o KevinMarks
  212. [22:02:25] <factoryjoe> hmm riiiiiight
  213. [22:02:43] <factoryjoe> pink elephant? nope, don't see it either. you?
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  215. [22:04:50] <jibot> emv is in Ann Arbor, MI and Edward Vielmetti and blogging at http://vielmetti.typepad.com and keeping Socialtext humming
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  217. [22:07:24] <kingryan> factoryjoe, who else is talking about gBase?
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  220. [22:08:28] <factoryjoe> just me
  221. [22:08:34] <factoryjoe> anyway, gotta go
  222. [22:08:36] <factoryjoe> ciao
  223. [22:08:39] <kingryan> I can hear the echoes here
  224. [22:08:41] <kingryan> later.
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  230. [22:28:13] <tantek> Mary Hodder's blog post on media-info microformats work made it to the SXSW interactive sidebar: http://2006.sxsw.com/interactive/
  231. [22:29:58] <kingryan> wow
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  236. [22:45:26] <Enric> Cool, tantek
  237. [23:01:38] <mfbot> [[resume-examples]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=resume-examples&diff=0&oldid=4353 * Tantek * (-10) Qualifications -
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  240. [23:19:32] <mfbot> [[examples]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=examples&diff=0&oldid=4356 * Tantek * (+8) A Good Example Has -
  241. [23:20:42] <tantek> greetings folks. I've been watching a bunch of the *-examples editing across various microformats efforts and noted a few areas that could use some default guidance. I've tried to capture some thoughts good example writing here: http://microformats.org/wiki/examples#Real_World_Examples_section
  242. [23:20:52] <tantek> please take a look if you have a moment, and let me know what you think.
  243. [23:21:06] <tantek> I'm going to edit a few *-examples pages accordingly.
  244. [23:21:48] <mfbot> [[resume-examples]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=resume-examples&diff=0&oldid=4357 * RyanKing * (+164) adding a section for "overall implied schema"
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  253. [23:34:18] <jibot> trovster is a web developer from the UK who writes on http://www.trovster.com and runs www.csslounge.co.uk
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  261. [23:45:16] <mfbot> [[rel-tag-feedback]] N http://microformats.org/wiki/rel-tag-feedback * Tantek * (+474) wrote first version, moved rel-tag comments in media-info to this page.
  262. [23:48:12] <mfbot> [[rel-tag]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=rel-tag&diff=0&oldid=4370 * Tantek * (+74) Discussions -
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  265. [23:49:37] <kingryan> how many people does it take to edit the microformats wiki?
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  267. [23:49:49] <kingryan> 37 - 2 to edit and 35 to watch in irc

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