IRC Log for #microformats on 2006-02-03
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[[chat-examples]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=chat-examples&diff=0&oldid=4688 * Chris Messina * (+45) Authors -
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[[chat-examples]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=chat-examples&diff=0&oldid=4689 * Chris Messina * (+1268) Added Skype transcript format
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kingryan is ryan king
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Enric is a media Software Developer and Videoblogger located at http://www.cirne.com
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mlinksva is Mike Linksvayer and from Creative Commons
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hey mlinksva
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what's your interest here?
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mike's been shipping microformats out for ages
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rel="license"
- [08:06:02] <factoryjoe>
oh... nice
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ah ha
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trovster is a web developer from the UK who writes on http://www.trovster.com and runs www.csslounge.co.uk
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[[hcalendar]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcalendar&diff=0&oldid=4690 * Mikemd * (+384) New Examples -
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[[hcalendar]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcalendar&diff=0&oldid=4691 * Mikemd * (+24) New Examples -
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bkdelong is B.K. DeLong, Head Research Analyst for HALO Worldwide - http://www.haloworldwide.com. Web: http://www.brain-stream.com. Email: bkdelong@pobox.com and lives in Salem, MA, USA (-5:00 GMT)
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[[geo-issues]] N http://microformats.org/wiki/geo-issues * Brian * (+97)
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[[hatom-issues]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hatom-issues&diff=0&oldid=4692 * Brian * (+547) Added GeoRSS references for consideration in hAtom entries
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- [16:37:27] <DanC>
hmm... I just got email announcing the dates of a meeting. a W3C meeting. I don't think it's marked up with hCalendar.
- [16:37:41] <DanC>
I could mark it up myself, but it might not stick...
- [16:38:27] <DanC>
... somehow I got our syndicated news markup (precursor to hAtom) to stick, i.e. to become part of the norm in the W3C comm team.
- [16:38:42] <DanC>
I wonder if I could pull that off for calendars.
- [16:39:22] <DanC>
my first thought is authoring tools, but I don't think I can wait that long...
- [16:39:31] <DanC>
next thought is instant-feedback checking tools...
- [16:39:57] <DanC>
X2V is really handy, but can't be used for confidential pages (and many/most calendars I use are not public)
- [16:40:21] <DanC>
so.. how about some in-browser javascript "yes, you got it right!" or "hmm... that looks like a date; is there an event you didn't mark up?" feedbac?
- [16:40:58] * DanC thinks he saw something like that...
- [16:43:43] <edsu>
a microformat ide :)
- [16:43:54] <edsu>
a neat idea
- [16:45:23] <bkdelong>
good idea DanC. Might want to post that of the wiki
- [16:47:25] <DanC>
where would you look for it?
- [16:47:32] <DanC>
hCalendar-brainstorming?
- [16:47:39] <DanC>
is that where use cases/stories go?
- [16:48:22] <DanC>
it's pretty specific to me; not really a shared-text sort of thing like I think wikis are best for. hm.
- [16:50:27] <bkdelong>
brainstorming, probably.
- [16:50:51] <bkdelong>
Not necessarily....I think it's an application idea that might be specific to you but could be implemented elsewhere.
- [16:55:01] <tantek>
DanC, I believe there are javascript hCalendar parsers
- [16:55:08] <tantek>
check the Implementations section of hCalendar
- [16:55:57] * DanC nods
- [16:56:34] <tantek>
another thought I had was a variant of X2V that would simply take the data as form fields
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RobertBachmann is Robert Bachmann <http://rbach.priv.at/> and lives in Austria (Timezone: 01:00)
- [16:57:41] * tantek realizes this is a common problem for converters/validators and points to http://validator.w3.org
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- [16:59:17] * DanC tries to remember the media wiki equivalent of <a href="..">...</a>
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[[hcalendar-brainstorming]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcalendar-brainstorming&diff=0&oldid=4693 * DanC * (+988) on workflow issues around hCalendar for big W3C meetings
- [17:00:56] <tantek>
[href linktext]
- [17:01:25] <DanC>
I like the markup buttons
- [17:02:05] <DanC>
it's kind of a nice compromise between wysiwyg/direct-manipulation a la tinyMCE and having to remember the cryptic codes for bold from memory
- [17:02:38] <DanC>
media wiki shows many, many little signs if maturity, doesn't it?
- [17:03:04] <tantek>
I think pbwiki is giving it some good healthy competition
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- [17:03:48] <DanC>
yeah... shouldn't there be a standard markup language for hypertext? ;-)
- [17:04:40] * tantek points RobertBachmann to http://microformats.org/wiki/wiki-formats
- [17:04:46] <DanC>
pbwiki seems to be a service. mediawiki is a software product
- [17:05:27] <tantek>
DanC true that is a difference, but from a UI point of view, I'm really liking pbwiki
- [17:06:01] <DanC>
is the software behind pbwiki opensource? if not, it's not a competitor in the sense I was thinking out loud about
- [17:06:14] <tantek>
yes, that is true
- [17:06:24] <tantek>
I don't know if the developers plan to open source it or not
- [17:06:49] <DanC>
"You can download a ZIP file of your wiki pages from your Settings page" I wonder what format.
- [17:07:59] <DanC>
pbwiki seems to endorse StudlyCaps, at least from a glance at http://yummy.pbwiki.com/ . That doesn't turn you off?
- [17:08:46] <tantek>
it's wiki legacy
- [17:08:59] * tantek wonders if anyone here reads Dutch: http://blog.volume12.net/2768.htm
- [17:09:30] * tantek is guessing at the content-language because it is not specified, though ironically, there is a meta ICBM specified.
- [17:09:38] <DanC>
I don't see any moneymaking aspect to pbwiki. I wonder how they'll keep it going
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[[hreview]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hreview&diff=0&oldid=4694 * KimBayne * (+282) Examples in the wild -
- [17:13:57] <DanC>
ah... ads by google
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[[hreview]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hreview&diff=0&oldid=4695 * KimBayne * (+20) Examples in the wild -
- [17:15:05] <qid>
"StudlyCaps"?
- [17:15:37] <qid>
oh
- [17:16:14] <DanC>
it's called CamelCase by advocates and StudlyCaps by detractors.
- [17:16:26] <qid>
I think what they're using would more specifically be classified as "PascalCase"
- [17:16:55] <qid>
CamelCase and PascalCase are similar subsets of StudlyCaps
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- [17:17:27] <qid>
wikipedia explains all
- [17:19:54] <tantek>
DanC, pbwiki also has "premium" wikis
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[[hatom-issues]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hatom-issues&diff=0&oldid=4696 * RyanKing * (-143) took away warning
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[[hcalendar]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcalendar&diff=0&oldid=4697 * Tantek * (+194) Discussions -
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mlinksva is Mike Linksvayer and from Creative Commons
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[[media-metadata-examples]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=media-metadata-examples&diff=0&oldid=4698 * Snowden * (+122) Formats & Protocols -
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[[media-metadata-examples]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=media-metadata-examples&diff=0&oldid=4699 * Snowden * (+76) Formats & Protocols -
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- [18:35:22] <Ragdoll>
Hello, I'm new to Microformats.
- [18:38:05] <Ragdoll>
I have a question I was hoping someone could answer.
- [18:38:19] <tantek>
welcome Ragdoll, how may we be of service?
- [18:38:58] <Ragdoll>
I've put together an hCalendar event, and I'd like to display more information on another page.
- [18:39:28] <Ragdoll>
I wasn't sure how detailed hCalendar got. For instance, I'd like to write out a detailed description of a conference.
- [18:39:52] <Ragdoll>
What time the lecture started, who is speaking, where they are from, etc.
- [18:40:27] <Ragdoll>
Is this possible, or is hCalendar not that specific?
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- [18:45:23] <Ragdoll>
Example: For this conference, at 1:45pm, the lecture is Looking Past Liberty Street given by Walt Aikman, who works with Grow Auburn's trees, and is from Auburn, NY. Is there anything about semantically breaking it up into these pieces?
- [18:48:24] <Ragdoll>
(Also, how do I register my nickname on here?)
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kingryan is ryan king
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- [18:59:06] <kingryan>
hey everyone
- [18:59:34] <Ragdoll>
Hello, kingryan
- [19:00:11] <kingryan>
hey
- [19:00:24] <kingryan>
DanC, I just saw what you added on hcalendar-brainstorming
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- [19:01:41] <kingryan>
?def Ragdoll
- [19:01:42] <jibot>
Nobody has defined Ragdoll yet
- [19:01:42] * DanC hesitates to swap this channel back in...
- [19:02:10] <Ragdoll>
How do I register my nickname here?
- [19:02:23] <kingryan>
I just wanted to point out brian's hcard-preflight xsl for some ideas
- [19:02:30] <bkdelong>
Does hcalendar make allowances for "cancelling" events? I'm finding I want to mark whether I attended an event, did not attend the event, leave a "ghost" if the event was rescheduled, or if the event was cancelled.
- [19:02:35] <kingryan>
?learn ragdoll is learning to use jibot
- [19:02:36] <jibot>
ragdoll is learning to use jibot
- [19:02:54] <kingryan>
bkdelong, the html-ish way to do that is to <del> it
- [19:03:14] <Ragdoll>
That makes sense to me.
- [19:03:19] <kingryan>
and, have you looked at the rfc to see if there's a 'canceled' status
- [19:03:44] <bkdelong>
I need to check that.
- [19:04:02] <DanC>
bkdelong, vcalendar has status=cancelled
- [19:04:43] <kingryan>
bkdelong, http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc2445.txt section 4.8.1.11
- [19:05:02] <DanC>
bkdelong, it also has partstat declined. http://www.w3.org/2002/12/cal/rfc2445#sec4.2.12
- [19:05:16] <pnhChris>
yes.. but how you pick up on <del> without reading too much into it (perhaps its used just to mark up a description change
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- [19:05:53] <kingryan>
pnhChris, I was assuming that you could <del> the whole thing
- [19:05:54] <Ragdoll>
?def Ragdoll
- [19:05:54] <jibot>
Ragdoll is learning to use jibot
- [19:06:01] <kingryan>
but changing the status is probably best
- [19:06:18] <kingryan>
Ragdoll, if you /msg jibot help , he'll help you out
- [19:06:21] <pnhChris>
del outsde the vevent'ed element?
- [19:06:37] <Ragdoll>
Thanks
- [19:06:37] <kingryan>
yeah, that was my thought
- [19:06:58] <pnhChris>
sounds like hell on the parser
- [19:07:40] <kingryan>
I think brian's already doing some <del> support on hcard
- [19:07:47] <kingryan>
but, yeah, makes parsing harder
- [19:08:37] <pnhChris>
not to mention xhtml nightmares
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[[stock-symbol-examples]] N http://microformats.org/wiki/stock-symbol-examples * JohnPanzer * (+459)
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[[stock-symbol-examples]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=stock-symbol-examples&diff=0&oldid=4700 * JohnPanzer * (+57)
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[[hatom-issues]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hatom-issues&diff=0&oldid=4701 * RyanKing * (+49) Feed (atom:feed) - marked hfeed as resolved
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[[hatom-issues]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hatom-issues&diff=0&oldid=4702 * RyanKing * (+52) Entry (atom:entry) - marked 'hentry' as resolved
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[[hatom-issues]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hatom-issues&diff=0&oldid=4703 * RyanKing * (+11) Initial Proposal - <del>'ing previous status message
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- [19:32:05] <tantek>
Ragdoll, did you get your hCalendar question answered?
- [19:32:20] <tantek>
It would help if you could post a URL to what you have so far
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- [19:40:58] <Ragdoll>
I didn't.
- [19:41:07] <kingryan>
Ragdoll, url?
- [19:41:13] <kingryan>
and what was your question?
- [19:41:59] <Ragdoll>
I've tried to sift through the iCalendar spec, and I think I've got it down...
- [19:42:17] <Ragdoll>
I don't have a public URL yet...
- [19:42:27] <kingryan>
k, its a bit tough to help, then
- [19:43:00] <Ragdoll>
I just wasn't sure if there was specific elements for speakers, credentials, etc.
- [19:43:20] <kingryan>
you can use the attendees stuff for that
- [19:43:27] <Ragdoll>
Like: Time, Lecture, Speaker, Credentials
- [19:43:50] <Ragdoll>
How does that work in hCalendar?
- [19:43:57] <kingryan>
good question
- [19:44:06] <Ragdoll>
Is it just a list?
- [19:44:32] <kingryan>
it can be
- [19:44:56] <Ragdoll>
I'll upload a page and let you look at what I have.
- [19:44:57] <kingryan>
you can use class~="attendee"
- [19:45:08] <kingryan>
I did it here http://theryanking.com/we.html for speakers
- [19:45:21] <kingryan>
(that's a modified version of WebEssentials05's schedule)
- [19:45:28] <tantek>
there is ATTENDEE, but per RFC2445 it is supposed to be an email address.
- [19:45:41] <tantek>
as an improvement for hCalendar, I believe recommend putting an hCard there
- [19:45:52] <tantek>
e.g. <span class="attendee vcard"> ...
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- [19:47:31] <Ragdoll>
The conference Agenda is here (it's not finished yet): http://arborday.org/programs/conferences/communityforestry/agenda.cfm
- [19:47:55] <Ragdoll>
(And the hCalendar for the event is here: http://arborday.org/programs/conferences/communityforestry/ , just FYI)
- [19:49:00] <kingryan>
on the second one, you could hcard the location
- [19:51:49] <Ragdoll>
hCard the location?
- [19:52:37] <tantek>
<span class="location vcard"> ...
- [19:54:12] <Ragdoll>
Is there a list and description of all the available classes, or are they only in the iCalendar spec? That would help a lot, methinks...
- [19:54:31] <tantek>
Ragdoll, yes, that is a very good suggestion
- [19:54:39] <trovster>
Is something like <code lang="html"> valid?
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- [19:54:53] <tantek>
trovster, as much as we might like it to be, unfortunately not
- [19:54:54] <trovster>
Not valid, per-se, correct...
- [19:55:07] <tantek>
lang must be one of the standard RFC3339 (I think) language codes
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- [19:55:30] <qid>
lang means a human language, not a computer language
- [19:55:57] <tantek>
sorry, RFC3066
- [19:56:08] <tantek>
qid, in particular, anything defined in RFC3066
- [19:56:16] <trovster>
Says [RFC1766]..
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- [19:56:26] <tantek>
right, it has been obsoleted by 3066 AFAIK
- [19:56:43] <qid>
I seem to recall something about being able to use custom language codes starting with x- or something
- [19:57:10] <trovster>
Obsoletes: 1766 damn :)
- [19:57:12] <qid>
although that's all kinds of risky
- [19:57:17] <tantek>
see http://www.evertype.com/standards/iso639/iana-lang-assignments.html
- [19:57:48] <qid>
<code class="html"> is about as good as you can get I think
- [19:57:48] <tantek>
note: i-klingon, sgn-US
- [19:58:07] <tantek>
yes, that is what is in current use as well
- [19:58:08] <trovster>
qid: Aye, that's what I use.
- [19:58:19] <tantek>
that and <code class="css">
- [19:58:54] <trovster>
<code class="php"> or anything :D
- [19:59:04] <qid>
tantek: i-klingon is deprecated :-p
- [19:59:06] <trovster>
Shame you can't do it with markdown
- [19:59:08] <tantek>
noticed that
- [19:59:18] <tantek>
you might able to propose a new lang prefix for computer languages
- [19:59:39] <qid>
Klingon has a registered language code, "tlh"
- [19:59:41] <tantek>
e.g. cl-
- [19:59:41] <qid>
hah
- [19:59:43] <tantek>
cl-html
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cl-css, cl-php etc.
- [19:59:56] <tantek>
then once that got accepted
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you could use lang="cl-html" etc.
- [20:00:15] <Ragdoll>
Can <div class="org"> also be <span class="org">?
- [20:00:19] <tantek>
yes
- [20:00:27] <TantekC>
i believe that is in the faq
- [20:00:42] <Ragdoll>
ah, thank you
- [20:01:50] <qid>
kingryan: FYI you carried over the invalid fragment identifiers from the WE05 schedule, dunno if that page is something active that's worth fixing
- [20:03:11] <Ragdoll>
I wish there weren't such an abundance of abbreviations. "fn" might be shorter, but I find "full-name" to be much more readable.
- [20:03:35] <Ragdoll>
I realize it's probably a moot point at the moment; just ranting.
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- [20:18:43] <factoryjoe>
so um
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go here NOW: http://37signals.com/svn/archives2/getting_real_help_us_put_out_the_campfire.php
- [20:19:03] <factoryjoe>
cks, tantek
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IRC in the browser
- [20:19:20] <Ragdoll>
Can region be written out and abbrviated (i.e. Nebraska and NE)?
- [20:19:45] <factoryjoe>
i think so
- [20:19:49] <factoryjoe>
use title
- [20:20:13] <Ragdoll>
Meaning?
- [20:20:39] <Ragdoll>
And can an element be left empty, as in: <a class="url" href="index.cfm"></a>
- [20:20:57] <Ragdoll>
Er, tag, not element.
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- [20:37:28] <factoryjoe>
uh
- [20:37:29] <factoryjoe>
no
- [20:37:35] <factoryjoe>
that wouldn't make sense
- [20:37:47] <factoryjoe>
better to not include it at all
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- [20:49:26] <Ragdoll>
But it doesn't show up on the site it's on (people know where the web site is, because they're already on it), and it's still readable by machines who are collecting the data.
- [20:55:30] <BenjaminCarlyle>
Ragdoll: The microformat ideal is that data is readable by both. If you just want a machine to read it, you might as well just be publishing XML or RDF.
- [20:55:42] <BenjaminCarlyle>
It is the visibility of data that keeps it accurate and relevant.
- [20:56:23] <Ragdoll>
This hcard isn't showing up properly in Tails; it's not showing any of the name.
- [20:56:24] <Ragdoll>
Would this be correct?:
- [20:56:26] <Ragdoll>
<div class="location vcard">
- [20:56:28] <Ragdoll>
<div class="n">
- [20:56:29] <Ragdoll>
<div class="given-name">Arbor Day Farm</div>
- [20:56:31] <Ragdoll>
<div class="additional-name">Lied Lodge & Conference Center</div>
- [20:56:32] <Ragdoll>
</div>
- [20:56:34] <Ragdoll>
<div class="adr">
- [20:56:35] <Ragdoll>
<span class="locality">Nebraska City</span>,
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<span class="region">Nebraska</span>
- [20:56:38] <Ragdoll>
</div>
- [20:56:40] <Ragdoll>
</div>
- [20:56:41] <Ragdoll>
Thanks, BenjaminCarlyle, that makes sense.
- [20:57:13] <BenjaminCarlyle>
It is usually necessary to have vcard on an element by itself to avoid abiguity...
- [20:58:17] <Ragdoll>
It was suggested earlier that I "hCard the location" by kingryan and tantek.
- [21:03:40] <BenjaminCarlyle>
Ahh, I see.
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- [21:04:02] <BenjaminCarlyle>
location is your own css class name.
- [21:05:53] <Ragdoll>
What does that mean?
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sorry if this is a really basic question, but are there techniques discovering instances of microformats using google?
- [21:11:40] <Ragdoll>
The microformats.org wiki has a lot of user-submitted examples.
- [21:12:58] <BenjaminCarlyle>
Ragdoll: For some reason I was thinking the location class was part of your vcard content.
- [21:22:53] <tantek>
Ragdoll, it appears that your location hCard is missing the required "fn"
- [21:23:20] <tantek>
and what you are marking up is an organization, rather than a person, and there is a specific thing you do for that (fn==org)
- [21:23:34] <Ragdoll>
Oh, I see.
- [21:23:40] * tantek looks for example
- [21:24:13] <tantek>
http://microformats.org/wiki/hcard#Organization_Contact_Info
- [21:24:23] <tantek>
that's the explanation
- [21:25:38] <Ragdoll>
Thank you, I will look at it.
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- [21:42:49] <Ragdoll>
So is something like this correct?
- [21:42:50] <Ragdoll>
<div class="location vcard">
- [21:42:52] <Ragdoll>
<div class="fn org"><h4>Arbor Day Farm</h4></div>
- [21:42:53] <Ragdoll>
<div class="org"><h4>Lied Lodge & Conference Center</h4></div>
- [21:42:55] <Ragdoll>
</div>
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- [21:43:42] <tantek>
I'm not sure about the two orgs
- [21:43:47] <tantek>
are you trying to say there are two orgs?
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- [21:45:58] <Ragdoll>
Sort of. Lied is like a sub-organization to Arbor Day Farm.
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[[to-do]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=to-do&diff=0&oldid=4713 * Tantek * (+338) reorganize a bit and add some recent requests from IRC
- [21:48:55] <tantek>
then you probably want to use organization-name and organization-unit
- [21:48:59] <tantek>
e.g.
- [21:49:38] <tantek>
<div class="fn org"><h4 class="organization-name">Arbor Day Farm</h4>
- [21:49:51] <tantek>
<h4 class="organization-unit">Lied Lodge & Conference Center</h4></div>
- [21:49:56] <tantek>
(note the one fewer div)
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[[to-do]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=to-do&diff=0&oldid=4714 * Tantek * (+77) add example usage for organization-name and organization-unit
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- [22:00:10] <Ragdoll>
Ah, brilliant!
- [22:02:13] <Ragdoll>
I think that was the last of my questions for now. Thanks, tantek and the rest. You've been a huge help.
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- [22:04:25] <kingryan>
you're welcome Ragdoll
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Ragdoll, glad to be of help. Come back anytime.
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briansuda is brian suda and brian suda of X2V fame
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?forget briansuda is brian suda
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I now only know that briansuda is brian suda of X2V fame
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?def briansuda
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briansuda is brian suda of X2V fame
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^^^ first pass at hresume format
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