IRC Log for #microformats on 2006-06-14
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- [00:00:07] <kingryan>
there may be a different/better one in the future, though
- [00:00:55] <briansuda>
Right, so i don't think we should be building tools around something that might disappear - that's why i was checking
- [00:01:19] <kingryan>
it won't disappear
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- [00:05:14] <jibot>
mlinksva is Mike Linksvayer and from Creative Commons
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- [00:09:07] <jibot>
Hwin is horseygurl, trying to go undercover.
- [00:14:10] <tantek>
briansuda, right - just as in the early days, people that cared used various different DTD urls
- [00:14:21] <tantek>
it took a while to converge and solidify on a few "standard" urls
- [00:14:43] <tantek>
don't worry, we'll get standard XMDP urls in a fraction of the time it took to get standard HTML DTD urls ;)
- [00:16:21] <briansuda>
well is there anyway we can atleast put them on microformats.org and/or gmpg.org (places we control) that way i there is a change (deprication) etc we can make the updates instead of reling on 3rd-parties
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- [00:17:23] <kingryan>
that's the plan briansuda, but the 24hrs-in-a-day problem still applies
- [00:18:26] <briansuda>
agreed, but you can off-load some work to me if need be. Most of the profiles are already finished, DanC's gripe was that they were URL escaped therefore not machine readable, so he unescaped them and need aplace to put them.
- [00:18:52] <kingryan>
"most of the profiles"?
- [00:18:56] <kingryan>
hcard's there
- [00:19:00] <kingryan>
maybe xfolk
- [00:19:03] <kingryan>
what else exists?
- [00:19:15] <briansuda>
hCalendar i thought.
- [00:19:18] <briansuda>
XFN
- [00:19:20] <kingryan>
nope
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- [00:19:28] <kingryan>
DanC's working on one, but I haven't seen it
- [00:19:33] <tantek>
briansuda, most of the profiles are NOT finished
- [00:19:43] <tantek>
e.g. I still have work to do for hCalendar and hReview for example
- [00:19:56] <tantek>
again, this is a matter of urgency of priorities and 24 hours in a day
- [00:20:09] <tantek>
there are tons of things more important that this to the community on /wiki/to-do
- [00:20:31] <tantek>
XFN is at http://gmpg.org/xfn/11
- [00:21:27] <briansuda>
i know that XFN exisits, i though hCalendar did as well.
- [00:21:54] <tantek>
no
- [00:22:07] <tantek>
DanC painfully reminds me of this about once every month or so. ;)
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- [00:54:04] <e_s_p>
I have another stupid question
- [00:54:47] <e_s_p>
http://microformats.org/wiki/rel-tag#Draft_Specification_2005-01-10 <-- this
- [00:54:57] <e_s_p>
It's not clear to me why that date is significant
- [00:55:10] <e_s_p>
Nor why the word "Draft" is in the section header
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- [01:01:40] <briansuda>
the draft is there to let people know that it is not finalized. The date is there so you can easily tell the last time it has changed. Are you arguing that it should be somewhere else, or not there at all?
- [01:03:10] <e_s_p>
o
- [01:03:26] <e_s_p>
my take from the front page of the wiki is that some specifications are no longer drafts
- [01:03:54] <e_s_p>
There's a drafts section and a specifications section
- [01:04:48] <e_s_p>
I assume datestamp is for the last time the semantics and syntax changed
- [01:04:49] <e_s_p>
That makes sense
- [01:05:26] <briansuda>
you are correct, it looks like Draft should be removed.... it is a wiki, so feel free. Just make a comment when you edit.
- [01:06:31] <e_s_p>
I didn't want to edit it without asking
- [01:07:52] <briansuda>
we can always roll it back. If you are worried just put a verbose description in the comment.
- [01:08:45] <mfbot>
[[hcalendar]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcalendar&diff=0&oldid=6590 * Evan * (-6) Removing "draft" from section headers for specs defined as "specifications" on the main page
- [01:09:05] <e_s_p>
like that
- [01:09:48] <briansuda>
sure. That will do one of two things. It will go through just fine... or someone will realize that it should STILL be a draft and change the homepage too.
- [01:10:16] <mfbot>
[[hcard]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcard&diff=0&oldid=6591 * Evan * (-4438) Removing "draft" from section headers for specs defined as "specifications" on the main page
- [01:10:18] <tantek>
thanks e_s_p
- [01:10:27] <mfbot>
[[rel-license]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=rel-license&diff=0&oldid=6592 * Evan * (-6) Draft Specification 2005-02-06 - Removing "draft" from section headers for specs defined as "specifications" on the main page
- [01:10:33] <tantek>
I suppose this is only appropriate around the time of the 1 yr anniversary
- [01:10:42] <mfbot>
[[rel-nofollow]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=rel-nofollow&diff=0&oldid=6593 * Evan * (-6) Draft Specification 2005-01-10 - Removing "draft" from section headers for specs defined as "specifications" on the main page
- [01:11:03] <mfbot>
[[rel-tag]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=rel-tag&diff=0&oldid=6594 * Evan * (-5088) Draft Specification 2005-01-10 - Removing "draft" from section headers for specs defined as "specifications" on the main page
- [01:11:25] <mfbot>
[[vote-links]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=vote-links&diff=0&oldid=6595 * Evan * (-6) Draft Specification 2005 - Removing "draft" from section headers for specs defined as "specifications" on the main page
- [01:11:41] <mfbot>
[[xoxo]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=xoxo&diff=0&oldid=6596 * Evan * (-7505) Draft Specification 2004-10-01 - Removing "draft" from section headers for specs defined as "specifications" on the main page
- [01:12:11] <tantek>
-5088 and -7505 seems a bit drastic
- [01:12:26] <tantek>
e_s_p, r u sure you didn't remove more than intended there?
- [01:12:42] <mfbot>
[[rel-tag]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=rel-tag&diff=0&oldid=6597 * Tantek * (+5088) Reverted edit of Evan, changed back to last version by Kevin Marks
- [01:12:50] <e_s_p>
tantek: I assume that has to do with the section editing
- [01:12:53] <mfbot>
[[xoxo]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=xoxo&diff=0&oldid=6598 * Tantek * (+7505) Reverted edit of Evan, changed back to last version by Hugh Winkler
- [01:13:04] <tantek>
e_s_p, no, it looks like you have a bad browser
- [01:13:12] <tantek>
pruning text areas at some length like 16k or 32k
- [01:13:21] <tantek>
you may want to stop editing the wiki with that browser
- [01:13:27] <tantek>
i just reverted
- [01:13:37] <tantek>
go check the diffs if you want to see how much got deleted
- [01:14:11] <e_s_p>
I did section editing
- [01:14:23] <e_s_p>
You've got a broken MediaWiki install
- [01:15:11] <e_s_p>
I didn't even have the whole page in my browser window
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- [01:47:45] <briansuda>
?forgetme
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I have expunged briansuda from my mind
- [01:50:04] <briansuda>
?learn briansuda is brian suda of http://suda.co.uk/ and http://claimid.com/briansuda in his freetime he works on the X2V microformats parser (-0600 CST)
- [01:50:05] <jibot>
briansuda is brian suda of http://suda.co.uk/ and http://claimid.com/briansuda in his freetime he works on the X2V microformats parser (-0600 CST)
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cgriego is Chris Griego (-06:00)
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- [02:36:41] <mfbot>
[[events/2006-06-13-where-2-bof]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=events/2006-06-13-where-2-bof&diff=0&oldid=6599 * Kevin Marks * (+47) Details -
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[[events/2006-06-13-where-2-bof]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=events/2006-06-13-where-2-bof&diff=0&oldid=6600 * Kevin Marks * (+87) Attending -
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[[xfolk]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=xfolk&diff=0&oldid=6601 * Bud * (+55) Implementations -
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Atamido is Paul Bryson, http://orangeman.commo.de/
- [03:05:54] <KevinMarks>
in the microfromats boF
- [03:05:56] <KevinMarks>
at where
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tantek is Tantek <http://tantek.com> and works on Technorati and develops microformats <http://microformats.org>
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[[events/2006-06-13-where-2-bof]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=events/2006-06-13-where-2-bof&diff=0&oldid=6602 * Tantek * (-8)
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[[directions-examples]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=directions-examples&diff=0&oldid=6603 * Kevin Marks * (+344) directions examples -
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[[events/2006-06-13-where-2-bof]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=events/2006-06-13-where-2-bof&diff=0&oldid=6604 * Mimizone * (+76) Attending -
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[[directions-examples]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=directions-examples&diff=0&oldid=6605 * Kevin Marks * (-3) hand authored bike route -
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[[events/2006-06-13-where-2-bof]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=events/2006-06-13-where-2-bof&diff=0&oldid=6606 * Mimizone * (+150)
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[[events/2006-06-13-where-2-bof]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=events/2006-06-13-where-2-bof&diff=0&oldid=6607 * Mimizone * (+150) Directions Examples -
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[[events/2006-06-13-where-2-bof]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=events/2006-06-13-where-2-bof&diff=0&oldid=6611 * Tantek * (+71)
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[[hcalendar]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcalendar&diff=0&oldid=6613 * JoeAndrieu * (+0) Example -
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[[Talk:Main Page]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=Talk:Main_Page&diff=0&oldid=6614 * Rrrrrrrrrw * (+65636)
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ryanlowe is Ryan Lowe, http://www.fanconcert.com
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tantek is Tantek <http://tantek.com> and works on Technorati and develops microformats <http://microformats.org>
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dglazkov is Dimitri Glazkov (http://glazkov.com) and lives in Birmingham, AL, USA (-6:00 GMT)
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Ragdoll is Justin McDowell (http://www.deadringerart.com). He works for the National Arbor Day Foundation as a multimedia designer.
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Is there a microformat for media? Perhaps one in development? I'm wondering if something like classes for media-title, media-author, director, illustrator exist out there?
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Ragdoll, see http://microformats.org/wiki/media-info-examples and start there
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Thanks!
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cgriego is Chris Griego (-06:00)
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bergie is lives in Finland and blogs at http://bergie.iki.fi/blog/ and Midgard CMS developer
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pnhChris is Chris Casciano, blogs at http://placenamehere.com/ , and a member of the Web Standards Project.
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kingryan is ryan king
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bergie is lives in Finland and blogs at http://bergie.iki.fi/blog/ and Midgard CMS developer
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bergie is lives in Finland and blogs at http://bergie.iki.fi/blog/ and Midgard CMS developer
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cgriego is Chris Griego (-06:00)
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mlinksva is Mike Linksvayer and from Creative Commons
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[[User:ChristopheDucamp]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=User:ChristopheDucamp&diff=0&oldid=6633 * ChristopheDucamp * (+216)
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[[User:ChristopheDucamp]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=User:ChristopheDucamp&diff=0&oldid=6637 * ChristopheDucamp * (+10)
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[[directions-brainstorming]] N http://microformats.org/wiki/directions-brainstorming * LuistxoTagzania * (+677) some doubts about common examples that may or may not be taken as directions
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[[directions-brainstorming]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=directions-brainstorming&diff=0&oldid=6638 * LuistxoTagzania * (-1)
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[[directions-brainstorming]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=directions-brainstorming&diff=0&oldid=6639 * LuistxoTagzania * (+6)
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[[User:Ragdoll]] N http://microformats.org/wiki/User:Ragdoll * Ragdoll * (+221) added pertinent links
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bergie is lives in Finland and blogs at http://bergie.iki.fi/blog/ and Midgard CMS developer
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hober is Edward O'Connor and works for EVDB on http://eventful.com/ and lives in San Diego, CA (-08:00)
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briansuda is brian suda of http://suda.co.uk/ and http://claimid.com/briansuda in his freetime he works on the X2V microformats parser (-0600 CST)
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