IRC Log for #microformats on 2006-07-09

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  4. [00:24:14] <mfbot> [[implementations]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=implementations&diff=0&oldid=7196 * Dotcode * (+206) Nature Network Boston -
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  7. [00:36:36] <mfbot> [[implementations]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=implementations&diff=0&oldid=7198 * Dotcode * (+132) updating Nature Publishing Group info -
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  19. [00:53:05] <jibot> tantek is Tantek <http://tantek.com> and works on Technorati and develops microformats <http://microformats.org>
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  30. [02:35:22] <mfbot> [[media-formats]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=media-formats&diff=0&oldid=7205 * DeanEro * (+259) Audio Formats - aiff info
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  32. [02:49:13] <mfbot> [[implementations]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=implementations&diff=0&oldid=7206 * Tantek * (+816) added note to implementors section to use fragment id links to applications, plugins, services, tools and additional sites.
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  34. [03:06:34] <mfbot> [[media-formats]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=media-formats&diff=0&oldid=7207 * DeanEro * (+478) Media File Formats - QuickTime user data atoms
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  37. [03:40:21] <jibot> Enric is a media Software Developer and Videoblogger located at http://www.cirne.com
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  39. [03:41:11] <jibot> ryanlowe is Ryan Lowe, http://www.fanconcert.com
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  41. [03:43:31] <mfbot> [[implementations]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=implementations&diff=0&oldid=7208 * Tantek * (+1084) reorganized/normalized Nature Publishing group implementations into services, additional sites, and used fragment id relative links to link to them, sorted and added a few others
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  46. [04:34:44] <mfbot> [[media-formats]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=media-formats&diff=0&oldid=7209 * DeanEro * (+525) Container and Metadeta Formats - ID3 links, Ogg Vorbis Comments and Ogg Vorbis XML/RDF draft link
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  48. [04:35:36] <jibot> bewest is curious about emerging standards and works for Alexa.com
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  51. [04:41:26] <jibot> mlinksva is Mike Linksvayer and from Creative Commons
  52. [04:44:55] <mfbot> [[media-formats]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=media-formats&diff=0&oldid=7210 * DeanEro * (+79) Image Formats - link to baseline tiff tags
  53. [04:57:32] <mfbot> [[media-formats]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=media-formats&diff=0&oldid=7211 * DeanEro * (+269) Image Formats - standard PNG text chunks
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  65. [06:13:40] <mfbot> [[buttons-fr]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=buttons-fr&diff=0&oldid=7212 * ChristopheDucamp * (+533) ajout section sur bannière microformats
  66. [06:28:52] <mfbot> [[hcard-user-interface-fr]] N http://microformats.org/wiki/hcard-user-interface-fr * ChristopheDucamp * (+2288) [fr:translation draft hcard-user-interface-fr]
  67. [06:36:28] <mfbot> [[implementations-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=implementations-fr&diff=0&oldid=7213 * ChristopheDucamp * (+267) Applications / Plugins / Services / Outils - sync with original-work in progress
  68. [06:45:44] <mfbot> [[implementations-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=implementations-fr&diff=0&oldid=7214 * ChristopheDucamp * (+11) Formats - typo
  69. [06:47:30] <mfbot> [[implementations-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=implementations-fr&diff=0&oldid=7215 * ChristopheDucamp * (+7) Les implémentations des microformats et ceux qui les ont mis en oeuvre -
  70. [06:49:26] <mfbot> [[implementations-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=implementations-fr&diff=0&oldid=7216 * ChristopheDucamp * (+40) Sites Additionnels - typo
  71. [06:58:57] <mfbot> [[implementations-fr]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=implementations-fr&diff=0&oldid=7217 * ChristopheDucamp * (+1440) Sites Additionnels - add section Sociétés...
  72. [07:03:39] <mfbot> [[implementations-fr]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=implementations-fr&diff=0&oldid=7218 * ChristopheDucamp * (+2467) Sociétés / Développeurs / Organisations - sync to be checked
  73. [07:04:50] <mfbot> [[implementations-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=implementations-fr&diff=0&oldid=7219 * ChristopheDucamp * (+0) Assaf Arkin - typo
  74. [07:05:56] <mfbot> [[implementations-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=implementations-fr&diff=0&oldid=7220 * ChristopheDucamp * (+3) Flock -
  75. [07:07:57] <mfbot> [[implementations-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=implementations-fr&diff=0&oldid=7221 * ChristopheDucamp * (+56) Flock -
  76. [07:09:28] <mfbot> [[implementations-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=implementations-fr&diff=0&oldid=7222 * ChristopheDucamp * (+6) Google -
  77. [07:09:39] <mfbot> [[vcard-implementations]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=vcard-implementations&diff=0&oldid=7223 * Tantek * (+60) Apple Address Book 4.0.3 still doesnt support CATEGORIES properly.
  78. [07:11:45] <mfbot> [[implementations-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=implementations-fr&diff=0&oldid=7224 * ChristopheDucamp * (-503) Extensions Microformats - sorting
  79. [07:12:21] <mfbot> [[implementations-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=implementations-fr&diff=0&oldid=7225 * ChristopheDucamp * (+504) Dreamweaver -
  80. [07:14:12] <mfbot> [[implementations-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=implementations-fr&diff=0&oldid=7226 * ChristopheDucamp * (+13) Drew McLellan - typo
  81. [07:17:03] <mfbot> [[implementations-fr]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=implementations-fr&diff=0&oldid=7227 * ChristopheDucamp * (+290) Nature Network Boston - add Nature Protocols
  82. [07:19:59] <mfbot> [[implementations-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=implementations-fr&diff=0&oldid=7228 * ChristopheDucamp * (-66) Nature Publishing Group - => devient Nature Home Page
  83. [07:25:00] <mfbot> [[implementations]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=implementations&diff=0&oldid=7229 * ChristopheDucamp * (+4) Yahoo - add suffix .org on upcoming
  84. [07:25:36] <mfbot> [[implementations-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=implementations-fr&diff=0&oldid=7230 * ChristopheDucamp * (+4) Yahoo - add .org
  85. [07:29:27] <mfbot> [[implementations-fr]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=implementations-fr&diff=0&oldid=7231 * ChristopheDucamp * (+351) Sites Additionnels - add technorati press + staff
  86. [07:31:48] <mfbot> [[implementations-fr]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=implementations-fr&diff=0&oldid=7232 * ChristopheDucamp * (+258) Technorati Contacts Feed Service - add Technorati Events feed service
  87. [07:32:10] <mfbot> [[implementations]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=implementations&diff=0&oldid=7233 * ChristopheDucamp * (+1) Technorati Events Feed Service - typo
  88. [07:38:06] <mfbot> [[implementations]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=implementations&diff=0&oldid=7234 * ChristopheDucamp * (+149) add === Sunnyvale House Concerts ===
  89. [07:38:37] <mfbot> [[implementations-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=implementations-fr&diff=0&oldid=7235 * ChristopheDucamp * (+3) Sunnyvale House Concerts - typo
  90. [07:41:48] <mfbot> [[implementations-fr]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=implementations-fr&diff=0&oldid=7236 * ChristopheDucamp * (-806) Information Générale - => devient Autres + cleaning
  91. [07:43:24] <mfbot> [[implementations-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=implementations-fr&diff=0&oldid=7237 * ChristopheDucamp * (-312) Outlils, Plugins, Projets - section deleted
  92. [07:44:50] <mfbot> [[implementations-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=implementations-fr&diff=0&oldid=7238 * ChristopheDucamp * (+9) Applications / Plugins / Services / Outils - Sociétés / Développeurs / Organisations
  93. [07:47:01] <mfbot> [[implementations-fr]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=implementations-fr&diff=0&oldid=7239 * ChristopheDucamp * (-11) [fr: french translation sync - implementations - this page is to be reviewed]
  94. [07:47:57] <mfbot> [[implementations-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=implementations-fr&diff=0&oldid=7240 * ChristopheDucamp * (-180) cleaning Information Générale
  95. [07:53:58] <mfbot> [[implementation-guidelines-fr]] N http://microformats.org/wiki/implementation-guidelines-fr * ChristopheDucamp * (+5893) awaiting cleanup before translation
  96. [07:57:49] <mfbot> [[implementation-guidelines-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=implementation-guidelines-fr&diff=0&oldid=7241 * ChristopheDucamp * (+113)
  97. [07:58:45] <mfbot> [[implementation-guidelines-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=implementation-guidelines-fr&diff=0&oldid=7242 * ChristopheDucamp * (+1) hCard -
  98. [08:01:51] <mfbot> [[vcard-implementations-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=vcard-implementations-fr&diff=0&oldid=7243 * ChristopheDucamp * (+53) categories (comportement) - * Version 4.03 (483) sur OSX.
  99. [08:02:47] <mfbot> [[vcard-implementations-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=vcard-implementations-fr&diff=0&oldid=7244 * ChristopheDucamp * (+25) categories (comportement) -
  100. [08:18:29] <mfbot> [[media-formats-fr]] N http://microformats.org/wiki/media-formats-fr * ChristopheDucamp * (+4892) [fr: draft translation media-formats]
  101. [08:25:20] <mfbot> [[xfn-implementations-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=xfn-implementations-fr&diff=0&oldid=7245 * ChristopheDucamp * (+47) * [http://xfnsearch.joshpeek.com/ XFN Search]
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  107. [09:43:26] <jibot> trovster is a web developer from the UK who writes on http://www.trovster.com and helps with www.multipack.co.uk
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  117. [10:52:35] <jibot> tantek is Tantek <http://tantek.com> and works on Technorati and develops microformats <http://microformats.org>
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  122. [11:12:40] <ciaran> Is there any sort of online validator available for hCard?
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  126. [11:21:22] <ciaran> I've tried to add an hCard to a page at http://ciaranmcnulty.com/contact but the Firefox Tails extension doesn't appear to read it correctly. Are there any tools I can use to debug it?
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  129. [11:32:29] <jibot> gsnedders is a 14 year old idiot from Scotland and pretends to have a website at http://geoffers.uni.cc/
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  136. [11:50:23] <jibot> trovster is a web developer from the UK who writes on http://www.trovster.com and helps with www.multipack.co.uk
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  144. [12:29:51] <jibot> trovster is a web developer from the UK who writes on http://www.trovster.com and helps with www.multipack.co.uk
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  147. [12:39:25] <jibot> tantek is Tantek <http://tantek.com> and works on Technorati and develops microformats <http://microformats.org>
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  198. [16:33:59] <mfbot> [[events/2006-07-11-an-event-apart-microformats]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=events/2006-07-11-an-event-apart-microformats&diff=0&oldid=7247 * Tantek * (+11)
  199. [16:34:10] <mfbot> [[events/2006-06-21-supernova-decentralizing-data]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=events/2006-06-21-supernova-decentralizing-data&diff=0&oldid=7248 * Tantek * (+11)
  200. [16:34:41] <mfbot> [[events]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=events&diff=0&oldid=7249 * Tantek * (+198) added a few events and created pages for specific events to collect content about those events
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  203. [16:53:00] <jibot> tantek is Tantek <http://tantek.com> and works on Technorati and develops microformats <http://microformats.org>
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  205. [16:53:11] <jibot> mlinksva is Mike Linksvayer and from Creative Commons
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  207. [16:54:48] * drewinthehead is here lurking ... avoiding the soccer as per usual
  208. [17:05:17] <trovster> So, you're gonna watch the FOOTBALL world cup final?
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  211. [17:11:14] <drewinthehead> naa, trovster. i'm going to sit here and code.
  212. [17:11:33] <trovster> I thought you were an Englishman.
  213. [17:11:48] <drewinthehead> i am indeed
  214. [17:12:03] <drewinthehead> why, is there cricket on? :)
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  216. [17:12:16] <jibot> Jonnay is a programmer, graphic designer and musician. He blogs at http://blog.jonnay.net and his music is at http://www.jonnay.net
  217. [17:12:19] <trovster> That's not in reference to not watching the football, but the slip of the fingers typing 'soccer'
  218. [17:12:40] <trovster> drewinthehead: No, I don't think the cricket is on, though it's the ashes this winter, I think
  219. [17:13:44] <drewinthehead> yeah, i was just trying to be internationally unambiguous - whatever you may call it locally, everyone knows what sport soccer is.
  220. [17:14:47] <trovster> Internationally unambiguous, so what ever America comes up with, we have to rethink?
  221. [17:14:56] <trovster> So not to confuse them?
  222. [17:15:40] <trovster> What about the World Series in baseball?
  223. [17:16:25] <drewinthehead> hResume bothers me in that respect. i *still* read it as resume and not résumé
  224. [17:17:47] <drewinthehead> but hCurriculumVitae would just be silly ;)
  225. [17:18:26] <trovster> hCV
  226. [17:19:50] <drewinthehead> that'd work for me.
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  230. [17:48:14] <mfbot> [[hcalendar-authoring]] N http://microformats.org/wiki/hcalendar-authoring * Tantek * (+8839) started
  231. [17:50:17] <tantek> greetings, I've just started the hcalendar-authoring page on the wiki, and very much welcome the web authors out there to contribute advice on authoring hCalendar that they think is readable by folks familiar with HTML and CSS (no programming skills required)
  232. [17:50:49] * tantek starts to look over in Drew's general direction
  233. [17:51:05] * drewinthehead whistles and tries to look innocent
  234. [17:51:58] <drewinthehead> wow .. that's a strong start, tantek
  235. [17:52:45] <tantek> thanks Drew, I know I've waited too long to start that page, so I figured I should give it a good push :)
  236. [17:53:49] <tantek> BTW, feel free to fix/improve grammar, use of language, tone of voice etc. to be easier to read, more entertaining etc.
  237. [17:54:18] <tantek> as a programmer I *know* that I can't help but often speak in overly specific language
  238. [17:56:17] <Jonnay> I'll check it out
  239. [17:58:18] <Jonnay> Second paragraph in Minimal markup changes is kinda clunky and complex. An example would smooth it righ tover.
  240. [17:58:21] <Jonnay> err right over
  241. [18:05:27] <Jonnay> (writing example now)
  242. [18:06:51] <tantek> BTW, Jonnay, do you have experience authoring hCard or hCalendar yourself?
  243. [18:11:41] <mfbot> [[hcalendar-authoring]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcalendar-authoring&diff=0&oldid=7250 * Jonathan Arkell * (+1005) Adding hCalendar markup to existing content -
  244. [18:12:05] <Jonnay> Do I hSure do.. :)
  245. [18:12:12] <Jonnay> arg
  246. [18:12:14] <Jonnay> Sorry
  247. [18:12:17] <Jonnay> I sure do...
  248. [18:13:15] <tantek> cool. ah, rereading it I see that it might help the flow to move that info to the "Determine..." section
  249. [18:14:47] <mfbot> [[hcalendar-authoring]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcalendar-authoring&diff=0&oldid=7251 * Tantek * (-6) slight reordering of content for flow
  250. [18:14:55] <tantek> take a look and see if that reads better
  251. [18:16:25] <Jonnay> yea, totally..
  252. [18:16:43] <tantek> need to make the same edits to hcard-authoring
  253. [18:17:15] <tantek> Jonnay, since the new content with examples was yours, want to try improving http://microformats.org/wiki/hcard-authoring the same way we just improved hcalendar-authoring?
  254. [18:17:36] <Jonnay> sure thing..
  255. [18:17:39] <tantek> thanks!
  256. [18:18:07] <Jonnay> I think there should be some mroe said about styling microformats..
  257. [18:18:30] <tantek> yes, we definitely need some more of that
  258. [18:18:42] <Jonnay> Thats (IMHO) one of the coolest things about MFs. It really makes you focus on the semantics of styling.
  259. [18:18:44] <tantek> but that starts with good examples in the wild of beautfiuly styled microformats
  260. [18:18:59] <Jonnay> Sorry about my typing, I am going over a VNC connection, so its dog slow.
  261. [18:19:45] <Jonnay> speaking of examples in teh wild...
  262. [18:19:45] <tantek> hey Drew, I think I found another example of a two word family-name, in case you're getting tired of citing Thomas Vander Wal
  263. [18:19:53] <tantek> Jason Santa Maria
  264. [18:21:41] <Jonnay> http://lombard.place.hyatt.com/ and http://scottsdale.summerfieldsuites.hyatt.com/ both have hCards..
  265. [18:22:05] <tantek> How many Hyatt's do? That's impressive.
  266. [18:22:10] <Jonnay> actually, any of the Hyatt Place, or Hyatt Summerfield Suites properties will have hCards.
  267. [18:22:22] <tantek> wow! do you have estimated counts?
  268. [18:22:24] <Jonnay> I haven't yet retro-fit the rest of the hyatt site with hCards.
  269. [18:22:27] <tantek> is that in the "Examples in the Wild" section?
  270. [18:22:39] <tantek> of the hCard spec?
  271. [18:22:39] <tantek> it definitely should be
  272. [18:22:42] <Jonnay> heh, just 22.. cause Hyatt Place and Summerfield Suites are just sub-brands..
  273. [18:22:54] <Jonnay> Nah, I haven't had time to update it yet..
  274. [18:22:57] <tantek> that info would be good to put on the page as well
  275. [18:23:17] <tantek> you should totally add that, and add yourself as having done it as well. you deserve the credit
  276. [18:23:28] <Jonnay> Cool..
  277. [18:23:55] <Jonnay> I want to talk to my PM about doing it up for the rest of the Hyatt site, esp. the search results and main hotel pages. Shouldn't be too bad.
  278. [18:25:05] <tantek> that would rock
  279. [18:25:20] <tantek> you could even add little "Add to Address Book" buttons that used the Contacts Feed Service to provide vCards
  280. [18:25:44] <tantek> that would likely help with demoing to your PM
  281. [18:25:47] <Jonnay> Man, now THAT would rule. Actual business value vs. propellerhead geekery
  282. [18:25:54] <tantek> yes!
  283. [18:26:14] <Jonnay> not that there is anything wrong with prop-head-geek-lovin...
  284. [18:26:17] <tantek> and make sure that the hCards had the URL property set to the URL of the specific hotel on hyatt.com so it would encourage people to come back to the source
  285. [18:26:20] <tantek> true
  286. [18:26:31] <tantek> as long as we keep it real and practical :)
  287. [18:27:28] <Jonnay> I think I may have had some problems with the URL propery one some of them, but I will revisit.
  288. [18:28:55] <Jonnay> Sorry, whats the url for the Contacts Feeds Service
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  292. [18:34:54] <jibot> bewest is curious about emerging standards and works for Alexa.com
  293. [18:40:39] <Jonnay> http://technorati.com/contacts/ .. NM... found it
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  297. [18:49:13] <jibot> evanpro is Evan Prodromou, info at http://wikitravel.org/en/User:Evan
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  300. [18:50:45] <tantek> Jonnay, use http://feeds.technorati.com/contacts/ just to be safe
  301. [18:50:55] <tantek> the non-feeds URL happens to work now, but that's mostly by accident ;)
  302. [18:53:09] <trovster> http://kitchen.technorati.com/event/search/multipack not fixed :(
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  304. [18:58:28] <ddfreyne> pingerati doesn't merge pings with the same URIs... is this a known issue?
  305. [18:58:51] <ddfreyne> I'm listed two times with the same URL.
  306. [18:59:22] <ddfreyne> (And there's another one that redirets (301) to one of those two...)
  307. [19:02:22] <trovster> It merged mine fine.
  308. [19:02:29] <trovster> The top one changed when I repinged it
  309. [19:03:29] <Jonnay> tantek: each time I try and use it I just get sent to the HTTP spec..
  310. [19:05:02] <tantek> with which URL?
  311. [19:05:28] <tantek> ddfreyne, pingerati just distributes the pings. It's up to the consumers of those pings what they do with them, how they handle multiple pings from the same source etc.
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  313. [19:05:42] <tantek> Perhaps you are speaking of results in Technorati's Microformats Search service?
  314. [19:05:49] <ddfreyne> eh, technorati microformat search, yep
  315. [19:06:38] <Jonnay> tantek: http://place.lombard.hyatt.com and http://technorati.com/about/contact.html
  316. [19:06:53] <ddfreyne> some pretty big events coming up in my town... shame there's no hcalendar for them ;)
  317. [19:07:04] <chucker> ddfreyne: upcoming.org? ;)
  318. [19:07:19] <Jonnay> Would I be correct in saying that the redirect to the spec is a way of saying "Your HTTP server is broken!" ;)
  319. [19:07:26] <ddfreyne> chucker: !
  320. [19:07:28] <tantek> for now, Technorati Microformats Search is showing results for each version it has seen along with when it saw it (how long ago)
  321. [19:08:05] <ddfreyne> chucker: I'd spend 10 hours filling in all that stuff ;)
  322. [19:08:16] <chucker> tantek: yes, but it shows http://stoneship.org/about and http://stoneship.org/about/ as two separate results (with the same timestamp), despite the first 301-redirecting to the other
  323. [19:08:25] <chucker> (cf. http://kitchen.technorati.com/search?s=amonre )
  324. [19:08:50] <tantek> darn it, looks like something broke recently with the contacts service form
  325. [19:08:51] <ddfreyne> tantek: ahh... sounds confusing, though... IMHO it'd make more sense to show only one result, maybe with a 'history' link
  326. [19:08:57] <tantek> just use the direct URL for now
  327. [19:09:04] <tantek> e.g. for http://place.lombard.hyatt.com
  328. [19:09:12] <tantek> http://feeds.technorati.com/contacts/http://place.lombard.hyatt.com
  329. [19:09:19] <chucker> ddfreyne: there's a reason it's on the Kitchen, not on the regular site ;)
  330. [19:09:29] <tantek> thanks for the heads up
  331. [19:09:59] <ddfreyne> chucker: the reason is to get feedback, right? :P
  332. [19:10:13] <chucker> point taken. ;)
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  336. [19:18:09] <Jonnay> Tantek: that totally worked. Thanks yo!
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  338. [19:19:26] <jibot> gsnedders is a 14 year old idiot from Scotland and pretends to have a website at http://geoffers.uni.cc/
  339. [19:23:55] <Jonnay> That is one cool web service.
  340. [19:26:05] <tantek_> awesome, glad the url method works
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  343. [19:27:15] * drewinthehead waves XFN in the face of social networking patent holders and grins (http://feeds.feedburner.com/Techcrunch?m=1032)
  344. [19:28:29] <drewinthehead> tantek - right Jason Santa Maria is a good example. doubly so, as he also has a nickname - Stan.
  345. [19:29:38] <tantek> is that a self-selected nickname? or is that a result of the virtual stan site that someone else built for him?
  346. [19:29:52] <drewinthehead> the latter
  347. [19:30:14] <tantek> I had the impression that "Stan" was a made up character
  348. [19:30:43] <drewinthehead> right, but as a result, folk have started calling him Stan
  349. [19:30:58] <tantek> yet enough people have seen and played with Virtual Stan that when they see Jason, it's the first time they've seen him outside the context of that site, and they can't help but call him Stan
  350. [19:31:02] <tantek> right
  351. [19:31:23] <tantek> but would he put it down as a "nickname" ?
  352. [19:31:55] <drewinthehead> that i'm not sure of. so yeah, point taken.
  353. [19:32:03] <tantek> I might tag Jason as Stan but I'm not sure if nickname is correct unless it is self-assigned or at least acknowledged (like does he response when people say "Hey Stan")
  354. [19:32:29] <drewinthehead> a good nickname example is Norm.
  355. [19:32:46] <tantek> yes
  356. [19:32:56] <tantek> and a good example that can be marked up as part of his formal name
  357. [19:33:14] * drewinthehead makes a note of that one.
  358. [19:35:22] <tantek> <span class="additional-name"><span class="nickname">Norm</span>an</span>
  359. [19:36:56] <drewinthehead> I guess I can do the same, although I don't get the upper-case letter - <span class="given-name">An<span class="nickname">drew</span></span>
  360. [19:38:14] <tantek> Somehow I always assumed that Drew was your given-name
  361. [19:40:39] <drewinthehead> i've gone by Drew for most things for many years, so that's a fair assumption.
  362. [19:41:17] <drewinthehead> to the point where i don't think to respond if i here someone say 'Andrew'
  363. [19:42:27] <deanero_> what else is additional-name commonly used for (beyond nick)?
  364. [19:43:16] <tantek> most commonly it is used for "middle-name"s
  365. [19:43:40] <deanero_> my name is actually "harry dean hudson" but i've gone by dean for so long that i've been filling it out as my first name for years to avoid confusion
  366. [19:44:16] <tantek> that's certainly an interesting distinction between "first-name" and "given-name"
  367. [19:44:56] <tantek> g2g do some errands/work -- back in a few hours
  368. [19:46:00] <drewinthehead> catchya later.
  369. [19:47:04] <deanero_> it'd be neat to be to use harry as my first name, but indicate that i'm not actually called that-- would that be done by using different given and first names?
  370. [19:47:27] <deanero_> seems like a hack, because harry actually _is_ my first name
  371. [19:48:20] <drewinthehead> there is no "first-name" property, so i think you're going to be SOL
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  373. [19:48:54] <deanero_> there you go then. :)
  374. [19:50:14] <deanero_> i'll just tag dean with a "call_me_this" class :)
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  378. [20:03:05] <jibot> tantek is Tantek <http://tantek.com> and works on Technorati and develops microformats <http://microformats.org>
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  403. [22:10:55] <jibot> mlinksva is Mike Linksvayer and from Creative Commons
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  411. [22:56:14] <bewest> gah
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  413. [22:56:27] * bewest thinks its still too soon for his deduced interfaces idea
  414. [22:56:36] <bewest> what we need first are more pipes
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  416. [22:56:49] <bewest> because google is constantly adding new formats to the mix instead of re-using
  417. [22:56:56] <bewest> so is everyone else, I suppose
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  421. [23:19:18] <Jonna1> deduced interfaces?
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  424. [23:30:59] <jibot> remi is Remi Prevost, a web developper (yeah, that's how we spell "developer" in french) from Quebec and blogs about web stuff at <http://remiprevost.com/>
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  428. [23:40:33] <jibot> pnhChris is Chris Casciano, blogs at http://placenamehere.com/ , and a member of the Web Standards Project.
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