IRC Log for #microformats on 2006-07-10
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- [01:20:03] <sreynen>
does anyone know if there is an Atom or RSS feed of the IRC log transcripts?
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- [01:22:05] <jibot>
briansuda is brian suda of http://suda.co.uk/ and http://claimid.com/briansuda in his freetime he works on the X2V microformats parser (-0600 CST)
- [01:23:11] <sreynen>
hi brian
- [01:23:39] <briansuda>
hello
- [01:23:47] <sreynen>
i was just reading your email. i generally agree with everything you wrote, but i'm not sure IRC meetups would do much to solve the problems
- [01:24:06] <sreynen>
i suspect it will always be the same people who can't make it due to time zones and/or scheduling
- [01:24:11] <briansuda>
feel free to respond and/or also make a suggestion
- [01:24:25] <sreynen>
so i was thinking about how to make it easier for such people to keep track of the IRC discussions
- [01:24:35] <briansuda>
well, atleast we try to let everyone kind of decide on a time, and/or each side can hold their own meetup
- [01:24:55] <sreynen>
do you know if there's an Atom or RSS feed of the IRC log transcripts?
- [01:25:20] <briansuda>
keeping track would be good, but i think there is something to be said for participating real-time
- [01:25:47] <briansuda>
this is the only log of this IRC chat i know of, http://rbach.priv.at/Microformats-IRC/
- [01:26:12] <sreynen>
yeah, every time there's discussion of IRC meetups, and look to see if I'm free at the decided time, but I never am
- [01:26:27] <briansuda>
true, but atleast you knew about it.
- [01:26:45] <briansuda>
it isn't a perfect system
- [01:27:01] <briansuda>
but IMHO, it is better than waiting around in IRC for something to develop
- [01:27:02] <sreynen>
I think if I regularly read the logs, I'd have more incentive to make time because I'd have a better idea of what sorts of discussions I'm missing
- [01:27:37] <briansuda>
but there might be even more discussions EVERYONE is missing because the right people weren't around to talk
- [01:28:38] <sreynen>
yeah, i'm not sure that's a solve-able problem. many of the right people will never use IRC
- [01:30:06] <briansuda>
agreed, it isn't perfect, but i was floating it out there as another tool in our arsenal, if no one plans on participating, then we can kill that thread, but better to ask than to just kill it straight away.
- [01:30:27] <sreynen>
yeah
- [01:31:12] <sreynen>
another thought i had on improving IRC participation was moving it up higher on the discussion page, above the limited-interest mailing lists
- [01:31:57] <sreynen>
http://microformats.org/discuss , i mean
- [01:32:10] <briansuda>
yeah, we should also have a page for all the different clients for different OSes, so newbies can get started with IRC.
- [01:33:16] <briansuda>
can you reply to my email and suggest that? i don't have access to edit the website. If we want more "organic" meetups and "office hours" we should tout the IRC channel abit more
- [01:34:45] <briansuda>
There are 43 members (reminds me of 43 things, 43 people, 43 places) in this channel, if anyone is around can you say hello?
- [01:34:58] <sreynen>
i will. i'm hoping to make a quick feed of the logs first, and post both of my thoughts at once
- [01:35:14] <briansuda>
sreyned, sounds good
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- [01:44:23] <ajturner>
hello :)
- [01:44:49] <briansuda>
hello ajturner
- [01:45:07] <ajturner>
saw your call for people to say 'hi', wasn't sure who you meant by "members"
- [01:45:14] <ajturner>
if you just meant 'people in the channel'
- [01:45:36] <briansuda>
oh, my IRC client says "43 Members", but yes, 43 people in the channel
- [01:45:53] <ajturner>
colloquy doesn't specify number, the list just scrolls ;)
- [01:46:05] <briansuda>
my version has the number
- [01:46:22] <briansuda>
2.0 (2D16)
- [01:46:34] <ajturner>
I've been interested in Microformats, and put together some applications both consuming and producing MF, and have been trying to figure out how the entire set of standards "progresses"
- [01:46:45] <ajturner>
(hrm, I have 2D16 as well)
- [01:47:11] <briansuda>
i have 2-3 different rooms connected, maybe it has something to do with that?
- [01:47:20] <ajturner>
I have 10
- [01:47:24] <ajturner>
where does it say it?
- [01:47:29] <briansuda>
you should list your applications on the implementations pages
- [01:47:33] <ajturner>
I have
- [01:47:47] <ajturner>
http://microformats.org/wiki/adr#Implementations
- [01:47:54] <ajturner>
GreaseRoute & GreaseRoute embedded
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are 2
- [01:48:12] <briansuda>
i see how many are in the room listed right below the room name
- [01:49:02] <ajturner>
and I have an application that pulls together and emails/sms/web shows directions and so attended the Directions BoF at Where2.0
- [01:49:08] <briansuda>
excellent little scripts, you should look at the GEO microformat too, most maps probably will take either an Address and/or lat/lon
- [01:49:33] <ajturner>
GreaseRoute is also listed in the GEO, since it consumes those
- [01:49:34] <ajturner>
;)
- [01:50:11] <briansuda>
how are you doing the SMS, just via email?
- [01:50:22] <ajturner>
API
- [01:50:56] <briansuda>
API for whom? i ask because i am interested in extending X2V to do things like "Send this event to my phone"
- [01:51:03] <ajturner>
(looking)
- [01:51:47] <ajturner>
vazu - https://www.vazu.com/
- [01:52:10] <ajturner>
I just saw another one the other day that will "call" a phone number and text->speech
- [01:52:26] <ajturner>
so you can have your phone ring and say "Your appointment starts in 20 minutes" ;)
- [01:53:08] <briansuda>
interesting! it is north amercia only....
- [01:53:16] <briansuda>
i will certainly look more into this.
- [01:53:23] <ajturner>
yeah - and has some small problems, limits on size, etc.
- [01:53:55] <briansuda>
i think that is an SMS problem
- [01:54:09] <ajturner>
the application routes you to your appointments automatically, depending on where you are to where the event is, and so the SMS says "You should leave in 10 mins to get to the concert on time. Here are the directions...."
- [01:54:13] <ajturner>
mayhaps
- [01:54:52] <ajturner>
hrm, would be nice to have an SMS parse the event MF and add it to your mobile's calendar
- [01:55:09] <briansuda>
yeah, certainly think there are many possibilities, if/when GPS phones are popular you might be able to do fancy things like "i'm lost how do i get to XYZ event"
- [01:55:29] <briansuda>
well, with SMS you can have attachements, although i THINK it is specific to the model or the network
- [01:55:31] <ajturner>
sure- well, right now I just figure you're either at your calendar's set location, or at your last appt
- [01:55:55] <briansuda>
also, there is some rumblings about PICO formats which are modeled after things like the Dodgeball syntax
- [01:56:09] <briansuda>
http://microformats.org/wiki/picoformats
- [01:56:23] <ajturner>
could have the SMS d/l something - I have a snippet of Python code that will watch for an SMS, and when one is rec'd, d/l the url - so that could d/l larger set of directions and display in a browser or something
- [01:57:07] <ajturner>
neat - haven't heard of PF before
- [01:57:16] <briansuda>
true, but now you are starting to limit the possible handsets because the implementation requires python
- [01:57:31] <ajturner>
well, python as a demonstration prototype
- [01:57:33] <ajturner>
but yes, limited
- [01:57:40] <ajturner>
so, using PF as an example - what happens to now progress that?
- [01:57:45] <briansuda>
PFs surfaced on the list several months ago, i'm not sure much has happened yet
- [01:58:04] <briansuda>
well, to move it forward we'd need to do a few things...
- [01:58:16] <briansuda>
http://microformats.org/wiki/process
- [01:58:35] <briansuda>
1) document current behaviour
- [01:59:04] <briansuda>
2) find a specific problem to solve
- [01:59:22] <briansuda>
(pico formats might not be the best example for these, because it is not built on XHTML)
- [01:59:45] <briansuda>
3) find any existing standards to model from (eg vCard, iCalendar, etc)
- [02:09:06] <ajturner>
hrm -
- [02:09:23] <ajturner>
so pf - go find out what dodgeball, flagr, et al are using
- [02:12:36] <briansuda>
yes, but also what they are gathering as input,
- [02:12:53] <briansuda>
again, picoformats are abit weird because they are trying to define the data and the encoding
- [02:13:09] <briansuda>
one microformat i have done alot of work with personally, is citations
- [02:13:31] <briansuda>
in the case of citations we needed to go out and gather examples on the web, how people were citing things, etc.
- [02:13:58] <briansuda>
then look to see what pre-established formats existed - no sense re-inventing the wheel
- [02:15:27] <ajturner>
true, but then you look at the "directions" mf, and you see that there a many, all very complex, use cases
- [02:15:32] <ajturner>
and how do you progress
- [02:16:11] <briansuda>
you'd have to pick a specific problem and solve that, microformats are not meant to be a generic solution
- [02:16:59] <briansuda>
citations suffered from alot of the same issues, and things need to be broken down to smaller atomic units
- [02:17:20] <briansuda>
we spun out ADR and GEO from hCard because they are smaller more atomic and can be used in other formats
- [02:17:34] <ajturner>
right - they seem fairly straight-forward
- [02:17:37] <ajturner>
at least by comparison :)
- [02:17:42] <briansuda>
maybe directions is trying to accomplish too much? and smaller bites should be taken
- [02:18:18] <ajturner>
just a list of adrs :)
- [02:18:32] <briansuda>
the other thing is, besides map sites, so many people publish directions? businesses do anyone else?
- [02:18:47] <briansuda>
adr's or geo points.
- [02:19:06] <briansuda>
Google has KML (XML) for maps
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pnhChris is Chris Casciano, blogs at http://placenamehere.com/ , and a member of the Web Standards Project.
- [02:19:56] <briansuda>
directions sprung-up after Bill Gates mentioned it, we have to be careful of making problems so we can make solutions
- [02:21:09] <ajturner>
heh
- [02:21:14] <ajturner>
well, for me, it was apt timing
- [02:21:22] <ajturner>
as I was just putting together a directions based app
- [02:23:28] <briansuda>
does that help answer some of your questions? or did i just make it more confusing
- [02:23:53] <ajturner>
well, I guess it reconfirms that MF is kind of a "lazy-web" standards process... if they build it... we'll possibly come ;)
- [02:24:05] <ajturner>
I mean, it's a good, pragmatic approach, but not one that can really have a "drive"
- [02:24:31] <mfbot>
[[events/2006-06-16-atmedia-microformats]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=events/2006-06-16-atmedia-microformats&diff=0&oldid=7252 * Brian * (+1095) 2006-06-16 @media2006 microformats sessions -
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drew, still around and awake?
- [02:25:43] <tantek>
I had dinner with Jason Santa Maria and have some answers ;)
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[[events/2006-06-21-supernova-decentralizing-data]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=events/2006-06-21-supernova-decentralizing-data&diff=0&oldid=7253 * Brian * (+609) 2006-06-21 Supernova Decentralizing Data Workshop -
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[[events/2006-06-21-supernova-decentralizing-data]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=events/2006-06-21-supernova-decentralizing-data&diff=0&oldid=7254 * Brian * (+1435) added additional speakers' presentations
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[[events/2006-06-21-supernova-decentralizing-data]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=events/2006-06-21-supernova-decentralizing-data&diff=0&oldid=7255 * Brian * (-168) Summary -
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[[events/2006-06-21-supernova-decentralizing-data]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=events/2006-06-21-supernova-decentralizing-data&diff=0&oldid=7256 * Brian * (+131) Tantek Çelik of Technorati: Decentralizing Data -
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[[events/2006-07-11-an-event-apart-microformats]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=events/2006-07-11-an-event-apart-microformats&diff=0&oldid=7257 * Brian * (+615) 2006-07-11 An Event Apart -
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[[irc]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=irc&diff=0&oldid=7258 * ScottReynen * (+86) Added Atom feed for logs
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[[screencasts]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=screencasts&diff=0&oldid=7259 * Brian * (+174) Added Liveclipboard screencast
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[[media-formats]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=media-formats&diff=0&oldid=7260 * DeanEro * (+211) Current Media Formats - AVI RIFF tags and reference
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Can anyone take a look at a page and tell me if the hCard on it is ok?
- [09:06:44] <Ciaran_>
I can't seem to find any online validators etc. and Tails is having a problem with it
- [09:07:07] <tantek>
Ciaran, try X2V
- [09:07:17] <tantek>
Tails has some bugs
- [09:07:30] <Ciaran_>
aha, X2V is another extension?
- [09:07:40] <tantek>
X2V converts hCards into vCards
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and provides warnings for common errors
- [09:07:53] <Ciaran_>
aha, great thanks
- [09:07:54] <tantek>
it's in the implementations section in the hCard spec
- [09:08:10] <Ciaran_>
The main problem is I've used a type/value in an email address and Tails is ignoring it
- [09:09:25] <Ciaran_>
That vCard looks fine... looks like my markup was ok after all. Thanks Tantek.
- [09:09:48] <tantek>
np
- [09:10:43] <Ciaran_>
It's nice to read the Wiki/list then come onto IRC and get help from a familiar name ;-)
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- [09:18:23] <tantek>
Ciaran - now all I ask is that you help the next person with a similar question :)
- [09:19:59] <Ciaran_>
Of course ;-)
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Thunderbird hasn't made a great job of importing the card. I'll have to play with it for a while.
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drewinthehead is Drew McLellan - watch him, he's tricky.
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mornin'
- [10:08:50] <JamesMellor>
hello
- [10:10:24] <JamesMellor>
re microformats-discuss mailing list, I have also had problems posting, tried a number of times and each time nothing.. couldn't post a reply to the recent message about this so thought i'd do it here
- [10:10:42] <JamesMellor>
using gmail
- [10:12:06] <drewinthehead>
this is odd. i had a post to mf-dev not show up, but i just presumed i'd posted from the wrong address and so it had been silently rejected
- [10:15:52] <JamesMellor>
yes i thought i was getting reject too for some reason but can't see any reason why that would have happened
- [10:16:00] <JamesMellor>
*rejected
- [10:16:36] <Ciaran_>
I tried posting on Saturday from Gmail and it didn't show u
- [10:16:54] <Ciaran_>
er, up. However, it was my first post so I assumed it just went wrong.
- [10:17:12] <JamesMellor>
yes that's what I thought too when I posted about 3 months ago
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- [10:25:17] <chucker>
JamesMellor: some Colin guy seems to have the same problem
- [10:42:34] <drewinthehead>
i'm not sure who runs the mail server, but it looks like it needs a kick. this isn't just one or two people having trouble, by the sound of it
- [10:53:42] <JamesMellor>
no according to the list a few others have
- [10:54:07] <JamesMellor>
it stops me from posting, i just read at the moment
- [10:54:14] <JamesMellor>
:/
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tantek - do you know who looks after mailman? seems like there's a fair number of people having posting issues
- [11:17:51] <drewinthehead>
possibly enough to suggest more than multiple cases of individual problems
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gsnedders is a 14 year old idiot from Scotland and pretends to have a website at http://geoffers.uni.cc/
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tantek is Tantek <http://tantek.com> and works on Technorati and develops microformats <http://microformats.org>
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- [13:34:20] <Ciaran_>
Does anyone know of either a Firefox extension or a Safari plugin that can export hCards to Address Book?
- [13:35:04] <drewinthehead>
not on the mac, Ciaran_. for Windows there's a version of Tails which exports to vCards
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pnhChris is Chris Casciano, blogs at http://placenamehere.com/ , and a member of the Web Standards Project.
- [13:42:30] <Ciaran_>
drewinthehead - Yeah, I've had a look at that. Unfortunately I keep my address book on the Mac.
- [13:42:40] <Ciaran_>
Hm, I wonder how hard it'd be to write some Applescript to do it
- [13:44:27] <drewinthehead>
i'm not sure if there's a favelet to feed the current page to X2V - but that'd be one solution
- [13:44:49] <Ciaran_>
vCard isn't Address Book's native format I don't think.
- [13:44:55] <Ciaran_>
I might have a crack at it when I get home ;-)
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Address Book will import vCard just fine, however, Ciaran_
- [14:17:41] <tantek>
drew, see http://favelets.com/
- [14:18:21] <drewinthehead>
thanks tantek, i thought that'd be likely
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briansuda is brian suda of http://suda.co.uk/ and http://claimid.com/briansuda in his freetime he works on the X2V microformats parser (-0600 CST)
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tantek, i have updated X2V to pull the a.include, it seems to work (i need to tweak some output issues - there are missing spaces, but that has nothing to do with a.include) have a test http://suda.co.uk/projects/X2V/get-vcal.php?beta=yes&uri=http%3A//tantek.com/
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- [14:29:27] <tantek>
hey brian, very cool
- [14:29:32] <tantek>
about the mimetype
- [14:29:39] <tantek>
i thought about text/xml
- [14:29:48] <tantek>
but that doesn't work for all HTML fragments
- [14:31:49] <briansuda>
not with all HTML true, but with all XHTML it should
- [14:33:59] <mfbot>
[[hcalendar]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcalendar&diff=0&oldid=7261 * Brian * (+62) added yahoo local into examples
- [14:34:42] <tantek>
the point is that a "chunk" of well-formed HTML is more than just well-formed XML
- [14:34:55] <mfbot>
[[hcard]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcard&diff=0&oldid=7262 * Brian * (+105) added yahoo local example
- [14:35:03] <tantek>
thus "text/xml" would work, but is semantically weak
- [14:35:37] <Ciaran_>
huh, so you're including in the location from a different event? Interesting.
- [14:36:36] <mfbot>
[[hreview]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hreview&diff=0&oldid=7263 * Brian * (+135) Examples in the wild -
- [14:37:42] <tantek>
Ciaran, exactly
- [14:37:57] <tantek>
it's what a human would do, since you've already seen the details once
- [14:38:42] <mfbot>
[[hlisting-proposal]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hlisting-proposal&diff=0&oldid=7264 * Brian * (+107) Added Edgeio as "examples in the wild"
- [14:39:51] <Ciaran_>
Would it be allowed across pages?
- [14:40:06] <Ciaran_>
like have the description on a different URL entirely?
- [14:40:54] <Ciaran_>
It could cause issues with how deep a user-agent is expected to spider
- [14:42:24] <tantek>
it is not allowed across pages
- [14:42:26] <tantek>
local references only
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- [14:42:32] <briansuda>
across pages is not a good idea, it could cause a recursive nightmare! plus HTML can be used offline and requiring documents that are not available is not beneficial
- [14:42:37] <tantek>
see http://microformats.org/wiki/include-patterns for details
- [14:42:54] <tantek>
also, all use cases found so far are on the same page
- [14:43:03] <tantek>
thus we keep it as simple as possible
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- [14:44:43] <Ciaran_>
I could see certain uses for doing it non-locally but like you say parsing would be a nightmare
- [14:47:26] <tantek>
it is far more trouble than it is worth
- [14:48:04] <tantek>
you might say that Ted Nelson's Xanadu tried to make true cross document transclusions work, and that work has been going for *decades*.
- [14:48:54] <briansuda>
the other issue is that data that is out-of-site is more likely to get stale or be incorrect, when you are spanning pages/sites this likelyhood increases
- [14:49:22] <drewinthehead>
plus we'd need to start taking robots.txt into account...
- [14:49:45] <Ciaran_>
It'd be nice to include from the more esoteric protocols too ;-P ed2k:// anyone?
- [14:49:54] <briansuda>
things get big quick - not worth the small gains, just replicate the data
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we can certainly reference them, inclusion only occurs within the same document, which is really protocol inspecific
- [14:52:12] <briansuda>
you COULD write a microformats parse to sit inside your email client and parse any incomming events mentioned in the message. This would (sort of) be over smtp:// (although it is local)
- [14:52:23] <Ciaran_>
nice
- [14:53:00] <Ciaran_>
cid:// evem
- [14:53:07] <Ciaran_>
er even
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Atom seems to have gotten around the mime-type format by defining @type="text|html|xhtml|real-mime-type"
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mlinksva is Mike Linksvayer and from Creative Commons
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bewest is curious about emerging standards and works for Alexa.com
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drewinthehead is Drew McLellan - watch him, he's tricky.
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For those interested in the GEO microformats, i have been playing around with converting the GEO microformat to a KML file then feeding that into google maps. Instant maps mash-ups! (http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&q=http://suda.co.uk/projects/X2V/get-kml.php%3Furi%3Dhttp%253A//austin.adactio.com&t=k&om=1)
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- [18:34:24] <drewinthehead>
looks pretty neat, briansuda
- [18:34:44] <briansuda>
thanks, i just sent an email to the discuss list too
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sweet
- [18:35:05] <drewinthehead>
i have plenty of test data http://getlpg.org.uk/ ;)
- [18:35:11] <briansuda>
i love "piping" data through multiple web services!
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You can s/rss/kml/ in eventful URLs to get KML from arbitrary event searches etc.
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all you need for google maps is a URL to a KML file
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drewinthehead, i get errors in your GEO files, i'm looking into it now
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- [18:37:35] <drewinthehead>
i just noticed that too. could well be me, but GEO is simple enough that it ought not be
- [18:37:49] <briansuda>
no, i think it might be me... i'm looking into it how
- [18:37:56] <briansuda>
.. into it now
- [18:40:26] <briansuda>
ok, it works now http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&q=http://suda.co.uk/projects/X2V/get-kml.php%3Furi%3Dhttp://getlpg.org.uk/stations/edinburgh-city-of&ie=UTF8&t=k&om=1
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brainsuda: that's super awesome. i want to use something like that for band tour dates
- [18:40:41] <briansuda>
hober, is there a better format than KML?
- [18:41:04] <briansuda>
deanero, all you need to do is add class="geo" and the lat/lon and the KML does the rest
- [18:41:15] <briansuda>
poormans, Google API
- [18:42:02] <drewinthehead>
poormans pah!
- [18:43:13] <briansuda>
i need to clean-up the output so you get something in the bubble, but all the technology is there working
- [18:46:08] <drewinthehead>
tim o'reilly would be proud.
- [18:48:59] <sreynen>
i'd like to see something like that as a wrapper around the maps API, so you could just give it the local ID of the points you want plotted and your API key, and it would do the rest
- [18:49:38] <drewinthehead>
prize to the first person to get it piped through ten web services!
- [18:49:55] <briansuda>
don't tempt me!
- [18:50:15] <briansuda>
i'm also already piping my output through a Tidy webservice as well!
- [18:52:47] <drewinthehead>
one of your own?
- [18:53:03] <drewinthehead>
i've had lots of trouble with differences between Tidys
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tantek is Tantek <http://tantek.com> and works on Technorati and develops microformats <http://microformats.org>
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- [19:00:45] * drewinthehead thinks he has include-pattern working with a.include in hKit
- [19:02:23] <drewinthehead>
just need a test case and i'm good
- [19:02:49] <briansuda>
http://tantek.com has an a.include example
- [19:03:01] <briansuda>
i have also been using the w3c tidy service
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- [19:04:30] <drewinthehead>
ah, i don't have hCalendar support yet ;)
- [19:04:44] <drewinthehead>
but i could use it as a basis for my own test
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- [19:04:57] <briansuda>
i think there is an hCard for the place, but it might not be including it yet
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- [19:06:13] <drewinthehead>
the include is including the hCard, but i'm not parsing the hCalendar event to find it yet
- [19:06:24] <drewinthehead>
i need to get off my arse and get that done
- [19:06:25] <briansuda>
gotcha
- [19:08:51] <drewinthehead>
i found 34 hCards on tantek.com
- [19:09:15] <drewinthehead>
i don't think i even know 34 people ;)
- [19:09:27] <briansuda>
:)
- [19:10:48] <tantek>
not all of them are people :)
- [19:11:33] <drewinthehead>
my point still stands :D
- [19:12:47] <drewinthehead>
ok, i'm pretty sure hKit now supports a.include fully
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- [19:19:34] <deanero>
yahoo's rest api for geocodes is pretty snazzy
- [19:20:39] <drewinthehead>
unfortunately their data only seems to cover the US
- [19:21:21] <deanero>
that's too bad
- [19:24:43] <bewest>
google opened their geocoder
- [19:24:49] <bewest>
does 8 countries iirc
- [19:25:20] <ajturner>
google's geocoder is nice too - and JSON support is really easy
- [19:26:01] <ajturner>
mapquest has a geocoder with 'worldwide' support - but only goes to city level outside US & canada
- [19:29:33] <bewest>
google keeps coming out with more services than I can keep up with
- [19:29:42] <bewest>
and along with it, more data formats than I can keep up with
- [19:29:58] <bewest>
although hopefully they'll find their gData format sufficient for awhile
- [19:30:13] * bewest might write a gData -> h<format>
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- [19:34:26] <ajturner>
is there a ruby wrapper for gdata?
- [19:34:51] <bewest>
dunno
- [19:35:02] * deanero needs to relent and learn more js than the trivial client-side stuff he;s done over the years
- [19:35:03] <ajturner>
doesn't look like it
- [19:35:11] <bewest>
but if such a thing existed, you could easily write pipes for their calendar app
- [19:35:18] <deanero>
a ruby wrapper would be more my speed
- [19:35:22] <ajturner>
there isa gcalendar api
- [19:35:34] <ajturner>
I've already written a ruby GCalendar XML parser
- [19:35:48] <ajturner>
deanero - why JS when you can RJS? :)
- [19:35:57] * drewinthehead shudders
- [19:36:22] <ajturner>
has anyone used the various microformat parsers/tools in ruby?
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- [19:41:59] <deanero>
no, but that sounds interesting. do you have links?
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- [19:42:59] <ajturner>
http://trac.labnotes.org/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/wiki/Ruby/MicroformatParser
- [19:44:43] <ajturner>
there is also this
- [19:44:44] <ajturner>
http://rubyforge.org/projects/mftools/
- [19:45:08] <ajturner>
but no releases yet (btw - the last was in the IRC logs from Feb 9 :) )
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- [19:59:49] <tantek>
greetings
- [20:00:08] <tantek>
it looks like a.include as a secondary include-pattern in addition to object.include has been fairly well received
- [20:02:38] <drewinthehead>
implementation seems easier, for sure
- [20:02:46] <drewinthehead>
no CSS and browser compat to worry about
- [20:03:27] <pnhChris>
anyone from yahoo weigh in yet?
- [20:05:05] <mfbot>
[[include-pattern]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=include-pattern&diff=0&oldid=7265 * Tantek * (+222) added proposal
- [20:05:17] <tantek>
the one major concern has been cross-document includes which have always been outside the scope of include-pattern
- [20:05:24] <tantek>
from the page:
- [20:05:31] <tantek>
"Note 1: the object data attribute MUST be a local ID reference. External references (which would require a consuming application to load an external resource) are currently not supported by this method."
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- [20:41:22] <mfbot>
[[include-pattern]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=include-pattern&diff=0&oldid=7266 * Tantek * (+1778) added a href include example and proposal
- [20:42:31] <briansuda>
tantek, i added to the stub pages last night and this morning, i'll try to add some more tonight, but without actually attending some of those events it is difficult for me to flush out all the details, but i'll keep adding information as i come across it
- [20:42:57] <tantek>
definitely, they look great
- [20:43:15] <tantek>
mostly it is about extracting what information you can find about the events scattered across various blog posts etc.
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- [21:45:16] <gsnedders>
g'night
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- [22:29:58] <drewinthehead>
interesting feedback on a.include on the list
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