IRC Log for #microformats on 2006-07-31

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  8. [01:51:04] <qid> oh boy, another citation microformat thread
  9. [01:51:10] <qid> this should be fun
  10. [01:51:50] * briansuda should warn qid, it is a long one
  11. [01:55:39] <qid> aren't they all?
  12. [01:55:59] <briansuda> :)
  13. [01:56:33] <qid> http://www.eod.com/devil/archive/web_standards.html
  14. [01:57:11] <factoryjoe_away> are there any services that parse hatom feeds?
  15. [01:58:25] <qid> natively?
  16. [01:58:34] <qid> wait
  17. [01:58:39] <briansuda> factoryjoe, sure and convert them to atom?
  18. [01:58:46] <qid> there's an hatom2atom I think, it parses hatom
  19. [01:58:50] <briansuda> http://rbach.priv.at/hAtom2Atom/
  20. [01:58:55] <briansuda> http://tools.microformatic.com/
  21. [01:58:56] <shaponagota> does it do enclosures?
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  23. [02:00:04] <jibot> tantek is Tantek <http://tantek.com> and works on Technorati and develops microformats <http://microformats.org>
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  25. [02:00:43] <factoryjoe_away> tantek: what do you think about http://gonze.com/xipf/datauri/
  26. [02:01:34] <shaponagota> briansuda: does atom support enclosures?
  27. [02:01:44] <briansuda> atom, or hatom?
  28. [02:02:08] <shaponagota> briansuda: i want to do the whole rel="enclosure" thing... will the parsers pick that up?
  29. [02:02:26] <briansuda> let me have a look at the XSLT and see if i can tell....
  30. [02:03:28] <factoryjoe_away> why can't you create a data link?
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  32. [02:04:08] <shaponagota> sparkle likes appcasts... http://connectedflow.com/appcasting/
  33. [02:04:14] <factoryjoe> <A href="data:zip/archive;base64;[data]">
  34. [02:04:39] <briansuda> at the moment, it doesn't look like the XSLT handles rel="enclosure"
  35. [02:04:43] <briansuda> then i had another look at the spec
  36. [02:04:47] <briansuda> http://microformats.org/wiki/hatom
  37. [02:04:55] <briansuda> it doesn't say much about that either
  38. [02:05:22] <briansuda> you might want to check the mailing list archives, and see if there was a discussion - maybe it was dropped, maybe it was tabled for the next 0.2 release?
  39. [02:05:27] <shaponagota> i can go from hatom > atom > rss 2.0 with feedburner
  40. [02:05:28] <qid> I have a feeling rel-enclosure is one of the things they pushed to a later iteration
  41. [02:05:49] <qid> shaponagota: but why would you want to?
  42. [02:06:08] <shaponagota> qid: i need rss 2.0 with enclosures in the end
  43. [02:06:28] <qid> are there still tools that support rss 2.0 but not atom?
  44. [02:06:37] <qid> tools/readers/etc.
  45. [02:06:59] <shaponagota> qit: sort of http://www.andymatuschak.org/pages/sparkle
  46. [02:07:11] <shaponagota> qid: it only works with rss
  47. [02:07:13] <factoryjoe> yeah, the sparkle implications are big
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  49. [02:07:47] <qid> hmm
  50. [02:07:55] <briansuda> well, there is no reason hatom has to map to atom.
  51. [02:07:55] <factoryjoe> hey peck2dot0
  52. [02:08:01] <factoryjoe> there's not?
  53. [02:08:04] <qid> sounds like it's time to mix up a batch of kool-aid
  54. [02:08:11] <factoryjoe> sluuuuuurp
  55. [02:08:12] <briansuda> you can write your own code and have it go from hatom -> RSS2.0 directly
  56. [02:08:44] <shaponagota> briansuda: yeah i know... i already have a hackish version working... i just want to avoid all of it
  57. [02:09:44] <briansuda> i would say, double check the mailing list archives, if nothing was brought-up then, email the list and ask - there might be interest in getting it included.
  58. [02:09:45] <shaponagota> offtopic, do html files render if there in a svn repo?
  59. [02:10:16] <briansuda> it depends, there are a few params you can add, type=RAW, etc
  60. [02:10:30] <shaponagota> briansuda: i'm on the new google code thing
  61. [02:10:45] <qid> shaponagota: try it and see
  62. [02:11:19] <factoryjoe> http://microformats.org/discuss/mail/microformats-discuss/2006-June/004434.html
  63. [02:12:04] <qid> application/octet-stream eeew
  64. [02:13:00] <factoryjoe> http://microformats.org/wiki/rel-enclosure
  65. [02:13:22] <shaponagota> feedburner needs to jump on the hatom spec
  66. [02:14:03] <factoryjoe> +1
  67. [02:14:23] <shaponagota> we need some sort of microformat promotion group
  68. [02:14:44] <qid> looks like there's no reason appcasting couldn't work through atom as well as rss 2.0
  69. [02:15:08] <shaponagota> sparkle is sensitive about its feeds
  70. [02:17:50] <briansuda> factoryjoe, i am getting through datauri link. X2V supports some of that already, if you look at the suda.co.uk/contact/ page i have my PHOTO marked-up that way.
  71. [02:18:06] <briansuda> unfortunatlly only a handful of browsers support it
  72. [02:19:28] <factoryjoe> i know
  73. [02:19:30] <factoryjoe> but
  74. [02:19:33] <factoryjoe> the kicker
  75. [02:19:35] <factoryjoe> is that w/ appcasting
  76. [02:19:43] <factoryjoe> you don't need to support browsers
  77. [02:19:54] <factoryjoe> (unless they want to be part of sparkle)
  78. [02:20:35] <briansuda> i originally floated this idea to the S5 group too, then you have a completely self-contained slide-show, obviously it is more difficult to edit then.... but emailing around to others, you don't need all the JS libs, images, ect
  79. [02:21:16] <factoryjoe> totally
  80. [02:21:22] <factoryjoe> html is zip file of the future
  81. [02:22:03] <briansuda> Hixie used this and had a little web service to convert to BASE64, let me look for that link
  82. [02:22:21] <shaponagota> is there any standard markup for blog posts? I don't feel like thinkg... should i use dl? ol? or just a bunch of divs
  83. [02:22:51] <briansuda> just hAtom and the most semantic tags you feel is correct
  84. [02:23:04] <qid> are there restrictions on user name formats for the wiki?
  85. [02:23:14] <briansuda> CamelCase for the Wiki
  86. [02:23:23] <factoryjoe> actually
  87. [02:23:24] <qid> crud
  88. [02:23:28] <factoryjoe> i think it's a normal name?
  89. [02:23:35] <factoryjoe> like "Firstname Lastname"
  90. [02:23:40] <factoryjoe> there're rules on the signup page
  91. [02:23:57] <factoryjoe> shaponagota: there's an hAtom blog out there
  92. [02:24:15] <briansuda> http://software.hixie.ch/utilities/cgi/data/data
  93. [02:24:45] <factoryjoe> actually
  94. [02:24:50] <factoryjoe> there's an app that will do this for you
  95. [02:25:25] <factoryjoe> DataURLMaker
  96. [02:25:40] <factoryjoe> www.sveinbjorn.org/software
  97. [02:25:45] <factoryjoe> it's designed for images
  98. [02:26:13] <qid> ah, I already had an account apparently
  99. [02:26:22] <shaponagota> are there an good examples of release notes marked up as hatom
  100. [02:27:01] <qid> ?def qid is David Osolkowski (http://wadny.com/)
  101. [02:27:02] <jibot> qid is David Osolkowski (http://wadny.com/)
  102. [02:27:49] <briansuda> shaponagota, someone yesterday was working on something like that... let me find a link
  103. [02:28:10] <shaponagota> http://rbach.priv.at/hAtom2Atom/Changelog/
  104. [02:28:12] <mfbot> [[irc]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=irc&diff=0&oldid=7855 * DavidOsolkowski * (+39) People on irc -
  105. [02:29:13] <mfbot> [[User:DavidOsolkowski]] N http://microformats.org/wiki/User:DavidOsolkowski * DavidOsolkowski * (+141) About David Osolkowski
  106. [02:29:14] <briansuda> http://rbach.priv.at/Microformats-IRC/2006-07-30#T000521
  107. [02:30:05] <tantek> greetings
  108. [02:30:16] <qid> evening tantek
  109. [02:31:57] <factoryjoe> hola
  110. [02:32:04] <shaponagota> hey
  111. [02:33:30] <shaponagota> hatom- can the title be a bookmark and a link to an enclosure
  112. [02:33:49] <mfbot> [[irc]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=irc&diff=0&oldid=7856 * DavidOsolkowski * (+0) Microformats IRC -
  113. [02:35:26] <qid> shaponagota: that sounds like it might be theoretically possible but I'm not sure it's supported or even makes sense
  114. [02:35:46] <factoryjoe> hrm
  115. [02:36:05] <factoryjoe> combining rel-bookmark and rel-enclosure
  116. [02:36:08] <shaponagota> <h2 class="entry-title"><a href="file.zip" rel="bookmark enclosure">Version 0.5.2</a></h2>
  117. [02:36:11] <factoryjoe> that's a pretty cool idea
  118. [02:36:20] <factoryjoe> i don't see why not
  119. [02:36:38] <factoryjoe> tantek could enlighten us
  120. [02:37:01] <tantek> that's not a bookmark
  121. [02:37:05] <tantek> it's not a permalink to the entry
  122. [02:37:07] <tantek> ok, off to dinner
  123. [02:37:12] <shaponagota> thx
  124. [02:39:11] <factoryjoe> hrm
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  126. [02:39:19] <factoryjoe> in the context of appcasting though...
  127. [02:39:28] <factoryjoe> i guess tantek's right
  128. [02:39:33] <factoryjoe> the file isn't an "entry"
  129. [02:42:35] <shaponagota> converting rss to hatom is no fu
  130. [02:42:37] <shaponagota> fun
  131. [02:44:18] <shaponagota> need to write a svn log > hatom script
  132. [02:54:12] <shaponagota> crap! http://hiker.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/appcast.html
  133. [02:55:53] <qid> somehow I'm not surprised
  134. [02:56:06] <qid> served as text/plain
  135. [02:56:20] <qid> although
  136. [02:56:21] <shaponagota> as long as it parses
  137. [02:56:41] <qid> svn does store mime types with things, maybe you can edit that and it'd work
  138. [02:57:59] <shaponagota> it says my time is invalid on all the entries
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  140. [03:04:35] <factoryjoe> we need an appcast workflow around hatom
  141. [03:06:25] <qid> shaponagota: does it require a time zone?
  142. [03:07:53] <shaponagota> qid: I don't know
  143. [03:08:37] <qid> well, that was my first guess as to why it wouldn't like your times
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  172. [08:56:15] <mfbot> [[citation-formats-fr]] MN http://microformats.org/wiki/citation-formats-fr * ChristopheDucamp * (+41301) [fr:to be translated in french]
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  181. [10:43:19] <tayzlor> hi, i have a question... i want to publish a set of reviews in hreview , the reviews are on the saem html page, some of the details are the same in both reviews, how can i reuse the data from the first one in the second hreview so i am not just typing out duplicate code which means exactly the same thing ?
  182. [10:45:29] <trovster> Do you have a URL? Why wouldn't you have the information in both reviews? You could have it in both, and hide one..
  183. [10:47:52] <tayzlor> well... 2 reviews - same things include - name of item reviewing, rating, item url, item photo
  184. [10:48:24] <tayzlor> do i just mark this up twice in the html, or can i mark it up for the first one, then use it in the second one by linking to the first ?
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  187. [11:32:55] <trovster> The name, rating, url and photo will be different though...
  188. [11:33:54] <trovster> tayzlor: There is http://microformats.org/wiki/include-pattern but I don't think it's appropriate here, as the information changes.
  189. [11:35:08] <tayzlor> trovster - http://uk.movies.yahoo.com/c/Cars/review-48203.html
  190. [11:35:19] <tayzlor> the item they are reviewing is the same - Cars movie
  191. [11:35:25] <tayzlor> some other data is the same also
  192. [11:35:31] <tayzlor> like a link to the Cars website
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  194. [11:38:57] <jibot> gsnedders is a 14 year old idiot from Scotland and pretends to have a website at http://geoffers.uni.cc/
  195. [11:39:17] <trovster> There is only one review on the page?
  196. [11:41:17] <tayzlor> trovster nope ... 2 reviews - one by cinema source, one by MRIB
  197. [11:41:26] <tayzlor> scroll halfway, there is only 1 overall rating for it
  198. [11:41:41] <trovster> Ok, well it's not obvious. But look into that include pattern
  199. [11:42:21] <tayzlor> yeah i know
  200. [11:42:24] <tayzlor> thanks though :D
  201. [11:42:41] <tayzlor> i had read about it somewhere before on how to do it
  202. [11:43:04] <tayzlor> but i cant find the article again :@ its not on the microformats wiki, or mayeb i am just being dumb and cant see it again :p
  203. [11:53:18] <mfbot> [[citation-formats-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=citation-formats-fr&diff=0&oldid=7864 * ChristopheDucamp * (-7) Chart de Comparaison -
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  222. [13:05:12] <mfbot> [[citation-formats-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=citation-formats-fr&diff=0&oldid=7876 * ChristopheDucamp * (+91) Biblio RDF Class Schema -
  223. [13:06:18] <mfbot> [[citation-formats-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=citation-formats-fr&diff=0&oldid=7877 * ChristopheDucamp * (+43) ISBN:// Protocol -
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  225. [13:10:04] <qid> eh
  226. [13:10:10] <qid> that's poorly worded
  227. [13:10:20] <qid> it's the ISBN namespace for URN, and there's no //
  228. [13:16:36] <mfbot> [[citation-formats-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=citation-formats-fr&diff=0&oldid=7879 * ChristopheDucamp * (+328) Vous devriez savoir -
  229. [13:17:37] <mfbot> [[citation-formats-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=citation-formats-fr&diff=0&oldid=7880 * ChristopheDucamp * (+12) OpenDocument -
  230. [13:23:13] <mfbot> [[citation-formats]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=citation-formats&diff=0&oldid=7881 * DavidOsolkowski * (+360) ISBN:// Protocol -
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  249. [15:04:03] <mfbot> [[hcalendar]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcalendar&diff=0&oldid=7883 * Jlencion * (+134) Examples in the wild - + Nobel Conference
  250. [15:06:06] <trovster> Which way can I include a hCard? I have information in the footer, which I want to use as the reviewer/published on articles.
  251. [15:09:15] <trovster> tayzlor: Hey?
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  259. [15:21:20] <briansuda> trovster, you want to look at the include pattern, class="include"
  260. [15:21:41] <trovster> Yup yup, I was telling tayzlor that earlier
  261. [15:22:00] <mfbot> [[citation-brainstorming-fr]] MN http://microformats.org/wiki/citation-brainstorming-fr * ChristopheDucamp * (+24714) Structure translated
  262. [15:26:10] <tayzlor> yo trovster
  263. [15:26:12] <tayzlor> sup?
  264. [15:26:46] <tayzlor> what is the data in the footer
  265. [15:26:53] <trovster> http://microformats.org/wiki/hreview#Object_Includes -- it tells you on the hreview page...
  266. [15:27:32] <tayzlor> yeah thanks
  267. [15:27:38] <tayzlor> i tried this way to mark it up
  268. [15:27:40] <trovster> Would you do <p class="mf_include reviewer"><object data="#branding" class="include"></object></p> ?
  269. [15:27:53] <trovster> Or leave the 'reviewer' part in the include?
  270. [15:28:05] <tayzlor> i tried ...
  271. [15:28:29] <tayzlor> <span class="reviewer fn" id="name"></span>
  272. [15:28:49] <tayzlor> <object data="#name" class=include"></object>
  273. [15:28:51] <trovster> Give the Id on the vcard?
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  275. [15:29:22] <tayzlor> yes u are supposed to give it an id on the vcard
  276. [15:29:40] <tayzlor> although when i implemented it , Firefox tails extension didnt pick it up for some reason :S
  277. [15:29:44] <tayzlor> but i cant see a bug there
  278. [15:30:10] <trovster> Tails isn't very clever ;)
  279. [15:30:16] <tayzlor> hehe
  280. [15:30:25] <tayzlor> i dont know another way to check it ?
  281. [15:30:30] <trovster> http://tools.microformatic.com/ try those
  282. [15:30:32] <tayzlor> any plugins for IE ?
  283. [15:30:38] <tayzlor> thanks
  284. [15:31:06] <tayzlor> hmm
  285. [15:31:13] <tayzlor> i dont think any of those will work
  286. [15:31:21] <tayzlor> i am using hreview
  287. [15:31:37] <trovster> Try it with hatom, if it works there, it'll probably work for the hreview...
  288. [15:32:33] <tayzlor> sure ;)
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  299. [15:53:42] <mfbot> [[citation-brainstorming-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=citation-brainstorming-fr&diff=0&oldid=7890 * ChristopheDucamp * (+17) WorldCat d'OCLC pour les titres -
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  302. [16:00:48] <mfbot> [[citation-brainstorming-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=citation-brainstorming-fr&diff=0&oldid=7891 * ChristopheDucamp * (+285) Ceci et ça -
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  315. [16:37:50] <mfbot> [[citation-brainstorming-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=citation-brainstorming-fr&diff=0&oldid=7896 * ChristopheDucamp * (+36) Basic Citation Stuctures -
  316. [16:38:26] <mfbot> [[citation-brainstorming-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=citation-brainstorming-fr&diff=0&oldid=7897 * ChristopheDucamp * (+8) schéma implicite (formats) -
  317. [16:42:47] <mfbot> [[citation-brainstorming-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=citation-brainstorming-fr&diff=0&oldid=7898 * ChristopheDucamp * (+124) Exemple -
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  322. [17:10:51] <mfbot> [[citation-faq-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=citation-faq-fr&diff=0&oldid=7900 * ChristopheDucamp * (+1) Questions -
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  324. [17:12:34] <jibot> mlinksva is Mike Linksvayer and from Creative Commons
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  329. [17:26:32] <mfbot> [[Main Page-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=Main_Page-fr&diff=0&oldid=7901 * ChristopheDucamp * (+14) Introduction -
  330. [17:27:13] <mfbot> [[Main Page-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=Main_Page-fr&diff=0&oldid=7902 * ChristopheDucamp * (+3) Design Patterns -
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  339. [17:47:44] <jibot> deanero is at OSCON-- message me!
  340. [17:48:07] <deanero> ?forget deanero
  341. [17:48:08] <jibot> I need at least 3 words with an 'is' in the middle
  342. [17:48:59] <deanero> ?forget deanero is at OSCON-- message me!
  343. [17:48:59] <jibot> I no longer know anything about deanero
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  358. [18:29:26] <mfbot> [[citation-formats-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=citation-formats-fr&diff=0&oldid=7908 * ChristopheDucamp * (+132) ISBN:// Protocol -
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  360. [18:30:16] <jibot> gsnedders is a 14 year old idiot from Scotland and pretends to have a website at http://geoffers.uni.cc/
  361. [18:31:07] <mfbot> [[citation-formats-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=citation-formats-fr&diff=0&oldid=7909 * ChristopheDucamp * (+341) ISBN 'Uniform Resource Names' -
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  367. [18:56:32] * bewest wonders if 'dans la jungle' is as idiomatic in French as "in the wild" is in English
  368. [19:25:48] * tantek wonders why DanC is looking for rohit
  369. [19:26:47] <DanC> I want to talk to rohit about recruiting folks for the GRDDL WG. http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/grddl-wg/
  370. [19:31:23] * DanC got an answer via email, meanwhile
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  398. [23:29:33] <jibot> briansuda is brian suda of http://suda.co.uk/ and http://claimid.com/briansuda in his freetime he works on the X2V microformats parser (-0600 CST)
  399. [23:33:50] <tantek> greetings
  400. [23:34:08] <tantek> anybody here that works on hReview parsers (or creators) ? (besides RyanKing and myself)
  401. [23:35:53] <briansuda> i can, if there is a project in the works?
  402. [23:36:33] <tantek> there are some clarifications that I would like to make
  403. [23:36:42] <tantek> which are consistent with my original intentions/expectations
  404. [23:36:50] <tantek> and it would be good to bounce them off anyone who cares here
  405. [23:36:57] <tantek> or I can just add them to the wiki
  406. [23:37:57] <briansuda> gotcha, i haven't done much hReviewing for me to weigh in on the topic
  407. [23:41:54] <tantek> ok
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