IRC Log for #microformats on 2006-08-05
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Jonnay is a programmer, graphic designer and musician. He blogs at http://blog.jonnay.net and his music is at http://www.jonnay.net
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mlinksva is Mike Linksvayer and from Creative Commons
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pnhChris is Chris Casciano, blogs at http://placenamehere.com/ , and a member of the Web Standards Project.
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all the individual pages at chunkysoup.net that were marked up with hatom are now setup to go through a local proxy... seems to be working just dandy
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e.g. watch "This Page's Atom Feed" to see edits to this page... http://chunkysoup.net/extras/zeitgeist/
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[[geo]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=geo&diff=0&oldid=8006 * AndrewTurner * (+53) Implementations -
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tantek is Tantek <http://tantek.com> and works on Technorati and develops microformats <http://microformats.org>
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[[geo-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=geo-fr&diff=0&oldid=8007 * ChristopheDucamp * (+297) Implémentations -
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[[geo-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=geo-fr&diff=0&oldid=8008 * ChristopheDucamp * (-240) Implémentations -
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[[hcard-faq-fr]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcard-faq-fr&diff=0&oldid=8009 * ChristopheDucamp * (+2030) [fr: restructured translation following hcard-faq]
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[[hcard-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcard-fr&diff=0&oldid=8010 * ChristopheDucamp * (+60) Propriétés Singulières vs. Plurielles -
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[[hcard-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcard-fr&diff=0&oldid=8011 * ChristopheDucamp * (+307) Nouveaux Exemples -
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[[accessibility-fr]] MN http://microformats.org/wiki/accessibility-fr * ChristopheDucamp * (+487)
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[[accessibility-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=accessibility-fr&diff=0&oldid=8012 * ChristopheDucamp * (+1)
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[[Main Page-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=Main_Page-fr&diff=0&oldid=8013 * ChristopheDucamp * (+38) Outils & et Tests de Cas & Recherche Supplémentaire -
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[[Main Page-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=Main_Page-fr&diff=0&oldid=8014 * ChristopheDucamp * (-2) Outils & et Tests de Cas & Recherche Supplémentaire -
- [11:30:52] <drewinthehead>
random thought ... microformat cheatsheet dashboard widget please! :)
- [12:57:48] <qid>
firefox sidebar!
- [12:58:59] <drewinthehead>
that too!
- [12:59:26] <drewinthehead>
perhaps if we put the data in a nice format somewhere online, it could enable both (+ more)
- [13:00:40] <qid>
hCheatsheet... *ponders*
- [13:00:40] <drewinthehead>
briansuda's cheatsheet format is good, and could be represented in XOXO, probably
- [13:01:20] <drewinthehead>
i could make a panel for Dreamweaver too
- [13:02:07] <qid>
oh wait, it's a PDF... for some reason I thought it was HTML
- [13:03:11] <qid>
but yeah, looks like the bulk of it is a list, then there's a table and a key
- [13:03:23] <ajturner>
dashboard widgets are really easy to make
- [13:03:40] <drewinthehead>
yes, i've done a couple myself
- [13:03:47] <drewinthehead>
just html+css :)
- [13:03:58] <drewinthehead>
+ javascript
- [13:04:01] <ajturner>
'zactly
- [13:04:33] <ajturner>
just make some tabs across the top for type of format
- [13:04:39] <drewinthehead>
if we got the cheatsheet data as HTML lists, that would enable lots of applications
- [13:04:45] <ajturner>
and then be able to copy the example format out
- [13:04:48] <drewinthehead>
or a select box, ajturner
- [13:04:54] <ajturner>
sure
- [13:05:21] <drewinthehead>
could even do a drop-in HTML module for CMSs like WP
- [13:05:23] <qid>
I'm typing that cheat sheet up now, unless it already exists as HTML somewhere
- [13:05:57] <drewinthehead>
i don't think it does exist as HTML
- [13:06:09] <ajturner>
well, just something as a simple as an example hCard, event, adr ,that the user could then fill in the data and rearrange on their own
- [13:07:39] <ajturner>
but if you did want to be slick, just have the widget able to read in some config file (XOXO or whatever) and then display the info from that
- [13:07:49] <ajturner>
so people could quickly add/remove formats they cared about
- [13:08:02] <drewinthehead>
right .. i think it's important that it uses 'live' data
- [13:08:10] <drewinthehead>
so mistakes can be corrected etc
- [13:08:20] <drewinthehead>
brb
- [13:08:22] <ajturner>
could pull from an online file
- [13:08:38] <ajturner>
or local - just make it option on the widget backside to point to a url/file
- [13:12:18] <qid>
o...k... samba just threw up in my face, I'll have to try rebooting
- [13:14:48] <drewinthehead>
having a nicely structured list of all the data is a good starting point ... then any number of applications can make use of it
- [13:18:02] <drewinthehead>
i guess the top level list has all the microformats and patterns, each tagged with elemental, compound or pattern
- [13:19:54] <ajturner>
sounds good -keep it simple first
- [13:22:41] <qid>
I'll post up a copy of what I'm working on in a second, stuck doing sysadminy things right now
- [13:22:52] <ajturner>
bbiab
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pnhChris is Chris Casciano, blogs at http://placenamehere.com/ , and a member of the Web Standards Project.
- [13:35:45] <drewinthehead>
hey pnhChris
- [13:35:49] <pnhChris>
hola
- [13:36:06] <drewinthehead>
we just came up with a nice idea for the cheatsheet
- [13:36:41] <pnhChris>
btw.. right there with you on the wmail you just sent...see comments in the file i sent :P
- [13:36:55] <drewinthehead>
yup yup :)
- [13:38:05] <drewinthehead>
the idea we just had here is to make an HTML version of the cheatsheet data, as a nice structured list - then people can use it to build dashboard widgets, reference panels and all sorts
- [13:38:20] <pnhChris>
hCheat, huh
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- [13:39:33] <qid>
http://24.51.162.4:8080/drop/microformats-cheat-sheet.html <-- that's what I managed to write so far, between windows refusing to talk to my linux server and dns behaving inconsistently
- [13:41:05] <qid>
the linux server can resolve my dyndns entry; the windows machine can't; they're both using the same DNS server
- [13:42:34] <drewinthehead>
not working from here, qid
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here either
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...
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- [13:48:16] <qid>
let me guess, my ISP cut off port 8080 as well
- [13:52:55] <qid>
now I have to rebuild tcpdump to try to figure out why this isn't working because it was linked against an older copy of openssl... this is like a comedy of errors
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remi is Remi Prevost, a web developper (yeah, that's how we spell "developer" in french) from Quebec and blogs about web stuff at <http://remiprevost.com/>
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- [14:07:02] <tantek>
the dashboard widget cheatsheet idea sounds interesting
- [14:07:16] <tantek>
would it make sense to have dashboard versions of the creators?
- [14:07:29] <drewinthehead>
maybe
- [14:07:34] <tantek>
since those are simply HTML+CSS+javascript
- [14:07:49] <drewinthehead>
but bulkier than the average widget
- [14:07:51] <tantek>
you could make a supercreator with tabs for each format
- [14:11:20] <drewinthehead>
that'd certainly be possible
- [14:12:14] <tantek>
do widgets allow object/iframes?
- [14:12:32] <drewinthehead>
personally my pain-point is quick reference
- [14:12:33] <tantek>
could you dynamically load the creator from the site and thus not need to update the widget when the creator changes?
- [14:12:45] <drewinthehead>
not sure about iframes .. they certainly support ajax
- [14:14:18] <drewinthehead>
i think perhaps we'd need redesigned creators to take up less space
- [14:14:57] <tantek>
yes
- [14:15:08] <tantek>
the creators could definitely use some layout design
- [14:15:23] <tantek>
since neither myself nor Ryan have focussed on that aspect at all
- [14:16:01] <tantek>
in fact, if you wanted to iterate on the creators themselves drew, and tighten up their HTML+CSS, that would be very cool
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ryanlowe is Ryan Lowe, http://www.fanconcert.com
- [14:17:49] <drewinthehead>
perhaps that job would be better suited to someone with design skills, tantek
- [14:18:13] <tantek>
you're too modest drew
- [14:22:14] <drewinthehead>
na, i'm just good at copying :)
- [14:26:00] <drewinthehead>
hmm .. i've broken IM urls in hKit somehow
- [14:26:40] <drewinthehead>
http://tools.microformatic.com/query/plain/hkit/http://allinthehead.com/about
- [14:26:58] <qid>
well. that was entertaining.
- [14:27:02] <drewinthehead>
they're getting snagged up in the link resolving code
- [14:27:02] <qid>
http://acetylene.ath.cx:8080/drop/microformats-cheat-sheet.html <-- try it now
- [14:27:17] <drewinthehead>
hooray qid!
- [14:28:23] <drewinthehead>
perhaps the whole lot could be in a list structure, qid ... instead of the headings, make that a top-level list
- [14:29:04] <plaes>
hmm.. this page triggers a rendering bug with Gecko engine.. :P
- [14:29:21] <plaes>
anyone with Firefox?
- [14:29:21] <qid>
ok
- [14:29:27] <qid>
I have firefox
- [14:31:59] <plaes>
ah.. damn.. my bad..
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- [14:32:41] <plaes>
these empty bullets tricked me...
- [14:34:08] <qid>
drewinthehead: like now? (ignore design patterns section) or did you mean the entire page?
- [14:34:55] <drewinthehead>
qid: yes, like that :)
- [14:35:53] <drewinthehead>
you could link each microformat name to its wiki page and rel="tag" it as elemental, compound or pattern
- [14:36:24] <qid>
xfolk tag the link?
- [14:36:29] <drewinthehead>
(btw, not suggesting this is something you have to do all yourself with no help!)
- [14:36:58] <drewinthehead>
yes, i think xfolk would be ok
- [14:38:09] <drewinthehead>
the other thing to capture would be the stuff in the key at the bottom .. perhaps with a class on the LI
- [14:38:19] <qid>
doesn't seem to be a wiki entry for design patterns in general
- [14:38:46] <drewinthehead>
hmm
- [14:39:20] <drewinthehead>
http://microformats.org/wiki/Main_Page#Design_Patterns
- [14:39:35] <drewinthehead>
not ideal
- [14:41:40] <qid>
well that would tag it as Main_Page, right?
- [14:41:55] <drewinthehead>
yes, in that instance
- [14:42:21] <drewinthehead>
perhaps there should be a design-patterns page
- [14:43:45] <qid>
sounds like a good idea, drew
- [14:43:50] <qid>
:-)
- [14:44:32] <drewinthehead>
thoughts, tantek? i'm not sure it's healthy to have that information in two places just for the sake of having a nice URL to reference
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- [14:45:38] <qid>
there already exist pages for elemental and compound formats, I imagine the design patterns page would parallel those
- [14:50:02] <tantek>
drew, if you want you could put the design patterns into a template
- [14:50:10] <tantek>
and then include them *both* into a separate page and the main page
- [14:50:19] <tantek>
that way for editing purposes the information would still be in one place
- [14:50:33] <drewinthehead>
ah, great - i didn't realise that functionality existed
- [14:51:49] <drewinthehead>
got it .. http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Template
- [14:55:00] <qid>
elemental uf's are now linked to the wiki pages and tagged as elemental-microformat
- [14:55:43] <qid>
rel-directory is tagged as a draft using http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft_document
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[[Template:design patterns]] N http://microformats.org/wiki/Template:design_patterns * DrewMcLellan * (+490)
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[[design-patterns]] N http://microformats.org/wiki/design-patterns * DrewMcLellan * (+40)
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[[Main Page]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=Main_Page&diff=0&oldid=8015 * DrewMcLellan * (-385) Design Patterns -
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[[Main Page]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=Main_Page&diff=0&oldid=8016 * DrewMcLellan * (-1) Design Patterns -
- [15:05:50] <drewinthehead>
qid: here's your page http://microformats.org/wiki/design-patterns
- [15:08:00] <qid>
k, thanks
- [15:20:44] <qid>
elementals and design patterns should be done, compounds are listed and tagged but no content yet
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- [15:21:07] <drewinthehead>
awesome
- [15:22:08] <qid>
I'll do adr and take a break
- [15:23:26] <drewinthehead>
good work so far :)
- [15:24:51] <qid>
I think that should work for adr, not sure if the common values for type should be marked up in some way
- [15:28:24] <drewinthehead>
hmm
- [15:28:45] <drewinthehead>
i guess you could nest them at another level
- [15:28:55] <drewinthehead>
class="options"
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Jonnay is a programmer, graphic designer and musician. He blogs at http://blog.jonnay.net and his music is at http://www.jonnay.net
- [16:26:05] <Jonnay>
mornin folks
- [16:26:17] <drewinthehead>
hola
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tantek is Tantek <http://tantek.com> and works on Technorati and develops microformats <http://microformats.org>
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trovster is a web developer from the UK who writes on http://www.trovster.com and helps with www.multipack.co.uk
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- [18:02:59] <tantek_>
hober, with the red cap?
- [18:03:35] <hober>
yup
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- [18:16:29] <qid>
http://acetylene.ath.cx:8080/drop/microformats-cheat-sheet.html <-- more progress, geo and hAtom converted, comments/suggestions encouraged
- [18:19:12] <drewinthehead>
good going, qid
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- [18:22:53] <qid>
not sure how I want to mark things for the key... a class on the <li> would work well but wouldn't match the styling of the PDF
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[[press]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=press&diff=0&oldid=8017 * Tantek * (+205) add Knowledge at Wharton 1 year anniversary article
- [18:36:29] <tantek>
qid, very cool on the cheat sheet
- [18:36:42] <tantek>
I'm wondering if it would be possible to abbreviate the use of rel vs. class
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- [18:36:49] <tantek>
in order to make it even shorter and simpler
- [18:39:50] <qid>
could do "implied class optimization" where the value is assumed to be a class unless indicated otherwise
- [18:47:43] <tantek>
qid, great idea
- [18:48:23] <mfbot>
[[press]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=press&diff=0&oldid=8018 * Tantek * (+3) tighten it up a bit
- [18:49:13] <qid>
I think I'll drop this into svn before I make that change
- [18:51:08] <qid>
....and now subversion doesn't work
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- [19:05:53] <qid>
o.O
- [19:05:57] <qid>
new url: http://acetylene.ath.cx:8080/microformats/microformats-cheat-sheet.html
- [19:06:32] <tantek>
implied classes?
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- [19:11:51] <qid>
yeah
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- [19:12:09] <jibot>
dotBen is Ben Metcalfe & blogging at http://benmetcalfe.com/blog/ & civil to mena http://flickr.com/photos/factoryjoe/70863244/ & not at BarCampNYC & the guy who likes to say bullshit & prone to shouting "Bullshit" in IRC Backchannels & does not like Apple computers & the man behind http://backstage.bbc.co.uk - the BBC's developer network & fair & balanced, like Fox News
- [19:17:39] <drewinthehead>
?def dotBen is & needs to update his definition
- [19:17:40] <jibot>
dotBen is Ben Metcalfe & blogging at http://benmetcalfe.com/blog/ & civil to mena http://flickr.com/photos/factoryjoe/70863244/ & not at BarCampNYC & the guy who likes to say bullshit & prone to shouting "Bullshit" in IRC Backchannels & does not like Apple computers & the man behind http://backstage.bbc.co.uk - the BBC's developer network & fair & balanced, like Fox News & needs to update his definition
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- [19:21:11] <tantek>
qid, check this out: http://www.feedblog.org/2006/08/new_rule_for_st.html
- [19:21:52] <tantek>
it would be awesome if we could layout the cheatsheet so that it fits on a single sheet of paper (double sided if necessary) that can be folded up and kept in a wallett
- [19:24:55] <drewinthehead>
tantek, the objective is for this html version to serve as a datasource for all sorts of transformations, so that'd totally be possible
- [19:25:01] <drewinthehead>
print stylesheet, even
- [19:25:03] <drewinthehead>
out.
- [19:25:37] <tantek>
yes print stylesheet!
- [19:25:40] <tantek>
that would totally rock
- [19:31:22] <qid>
I added classes to indicate required, optional, single, multiple
- [19:31:40] <qid>
implied default is optional single
- [19:32:19] <qid>
took a few seconds to get it to style them properly
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- [19:34:08] <qid>
not sure if we should replicate that table down the right side
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- [19:56:18] <bytee_>
hi. i have a quick question. how does the vCard format differ from the hCard format ?
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- [20:05:38] <qid>
vCard is a plain text format, hCard is an adaptation of vCard that works in (X)HTML
- [20:06:06] <qid>
they're the same format, just represented differently
- [20:06:32] <ajturner>
qid - anything to show yet?
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- [20:06:46] <jibot>
_fil_ is co-author of SPIP (www.spip.net) and works on implementing microformats in it
- [20:06:54] <ajturner>
(just saw your most recent link)
- [20:06:58] <qid>
ajturner: http://acetylene.ath.cx:8080/microformats/microformats-cheat-sheet.html
- [20:07:27] <qid>
there's a document there, go ahead and take a look
- [20:08:03] <ajturner>
Are you going to make an "example" sheet that instead of the listing of all the options is just a filled out hCard example?
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- [20:11:31] <qid>
I could, but I'm not sure I see what good that does... there are examples on the wiki already, right?
- [20:11:41] <ajturner>
this is a cheatsheet though?
- [20:11:49] <ajturner>
these standards are also on the website :)
- [20:15:14] <qid>
well, this wasn't my idea, I just did the work
- [20:15:52] <ajturner>
it's great - don't get me wrong. just thought it would include examples - so I could copy/paste and then just replace the filler text with my actual text
- [20:16:13] <qid>
oh, I see
- [20:16:52] <qid>
well I'm not sure how well that would even work
- [20:17:36] <qid>
I mean, you ought to be able to just put classes on existing elements and add in a minimal number of divs/spans as necessary
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- [20:17:48] <jibot>
briansuda is brian suda of http://suda.co.uk/ and http://claimid.com/briansuda in his freetime he works on the X2V microformats parser (-0600 CST)
- [20:18:21] <qid>
so I would imagine the instances where you could actually copy & paste a microformat "template" and just fill in your own data would not be all that numerous
- [20:18:25] <ajturner>
but when I'm writing a blog post -and want to put it an hCard or something, then copying a currently marked up example and then replacing NAME and ORG with the appropriate name would be nice
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- [20:18:45] <jibot>
tantek is Tantek <http://tantek.com> and works on Technorati and develops microformats <http://microformats.org>
- [20:18:48] <ajturner>
well, what's the most common case - someone is changing existing text, or writing new text? don't know
- [20:19:06] <qid>
yeah, but you see how big hCard is, you'll spend more time cutting out the stuff you won't use than it would take to type it up yourself
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- [20:19:20] <qid>
changing existing text I suspect
- [20:19:32] <ajturner>
hrm, I find deleting faster than typing <span class="">stuff</span>
- [20:19:50] <qid>
after all, microformats are supposed to be modeled on existing behavior
- [20:19:59] <ajturner>
guess it depends, I guess I'll put together my own cheatsheet ;) put my efforts where my mouth is
- [20:20:01] <qid>
which implies existing content
- [20:20:25] <ajturner>
personally, I'm writing new more than modifying existing, but that's my case
- [20:20:59] <ajturner>
also, when I go to the wiki, the first place I go is usually the examples
- [20:21:18] <ajturner>
which is probably a bad habit, but the most pragmatic
- [20:21:43] <qid>
well, the cheat sheet right now is kind of an example without all that pesky sample data
- [20:22:53] <ajturner>
not really, there isn't actually a mf used
- [20:23:00] <ajturner>
except XOXO ;)
- [20:23:19] <ajturner>
anyways - great work, will be very useful
- [20:24:51] <ajturner>
I wonder if there is already a Dashboard widget that parses XOXO into something widget-pretty
- [20:24:59] <tantek>
that would be cool
- [20:25:27] <qid>
I meant the content of the cheat sheet, not the markup of the cheat sheet
- [20:25:38] <qid>
and the cheat sheet itself also uses xfolk :-p
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- [20:28:53] <bytee_>
qid: thanks!
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- [21:02:54] <dotBen>
?cool
- [21:03:41] <dotBen>
?def dotben
- [21:03:41] <jibot>
dotben is Ben Metcalfe & blogging at http://benmetcalfe.com/blog/ & civil to mena http://flickr.com/photos/factoryjoe/70863244/ & not at BarCampNYC & the guy who likes to say bullshit & prone to shouting "Bullshit" in IRC Backchannels & does not like Apple computers & the man behind http://backstage.bbc.co.uk - the BBC's developer network & fair & balanced, like Fox News & needs to update his definition
- [21:06:51] <dotBen>
?forgetme
- [21:06:52] <jibot>
I have expunged dotBen from my mind
- [21:07:00] <dotBen>
?def dotBen is dotben is Ben Metcalfe & CTO + Grassroots Architect of Citizen Agency (http://citizenagency.com) with Tara and Chris & blogs at http://benmetcalfe.com/blog/ & civil to mena http://flickr.com/photos/factoryjoe/70863244/ & the guy who likes to say bullshit & prone to shouting "Bullshit" in IRC Backchannels & does not like Apple computers & was the man behind http://backstage.bbc.co.uk
- [21:07:00] <jibot>
dotBen is dotben is Ben Metcalfe & CTO + Grassroots Architect of Citizen Agency (http://citizenagency.com) with Tara & Chris & blogs at http://benmetcalfe.com/blog/ & civil to mena http://flickr.com/photos/factoryjoe/70863244/ & the guy who likes to say bullshit & prone to shouting "Bullshit" in IRC Backchannels & does not like Apple computers & was the man behind http://backstage.bbc.co.uk
- [21:07:02] <dotBen>
- the BBC's developer network & fair + balanced, like Fox News (which has a secret irony)
- [21:07:33] <dotBen>
?forgetme
- [21:07:34] <jibot>
I have expunged dotBen from my mind
- [21:07:47] <dotBen>
?def dotben is Ben Metcalfe & CTO + Grassroots Architect of Citizen Agency (http://citizenagency.com) with Tara and Chris & blogs at http://benmetcalfe.com/blog/ & civil to mena http://flickr.com/photos/factoryjoe/70863244/ & the guy who likes to say bullshit & prone to shouting "Bullshit" in IRC Backchannels & does not like Apple computers & was the man behind http://backstage.bbc.co.uk -...
- [21:07:47] <jibot>
dotben is Ben Metcalfe & CTO + Grassroots Architect of Citizen Agency (http://citizenagency.com) with Tara & Chris & blogs at http://benmetcalfe.com/blog/ & civil to mena http://flickr.com/photos/factoryjoe/70863244/ & the guy who likes to say bullshit & prone to shouting "Bullshit" in IRC Backchannels & does not like Apple computers & was the man behind http://backstage.bbc.co.uk -...
- [21:07:48] <dotBen>
...the BBC's developer network & fair + balanced, like Fox News (which has a secret irony)
- [21:08:04] <dotBen>
?def dotben is & fair + balanced, like Fox News (which has a secret irony)
- [21:08:04] <jibot>
dotben is Ben Metcalfe & CTO + Grassroots Architect of Citizen Agency (http://citizenagency.com) with Tara & Chris & blogs at http://benmetcalfe.com/blog/ & civil to mena http://flickr.com/photos/factoryjoe/70863244/ & the guy who likes to say bullshit & prone to shouting "Bullshit" in IRC Backchannels & does not like Apple computers & was the man behind http://backstage.bbc.co.uk -... & fair + balanced, like Fox News (which has
- [21:08:34] <dotBen>
?forget dotben is & fair + balanced, like Fox News (which has
- [21:08:34] <jibot>
I did not know dotben was fair + balanced, like Fox News (which has
- [21:08:46] <dotBen>
?forgetme
- [21:08:47] <jibot>
I have expunged dotBen from my mind
- [21:08:53] <dotBen>
?def dotben is Ben Metcalfe & CTO + Grassroots Architect of Citizen Agency (http://citizenagency.com) with Tara & Chris & blogs at http://benmetcalfe.com/blog/ & civil to mena http://flickr.com/photos/factoryjoe/70863244/ & the guy who likes to say bullshit & prone to shouting "Bullshit" in IRC Backchannels & does not like Apple computers & was the man behind http://backstage.bbc.co.uk
- [21:08:53] <jibot>
dotben is Ben Metcalfe & CTO + Grassroots Architect of Citizen Agency (http://citizenagency.com) with Tara & Chris & blogs at http://benmetcalfe.com/blog/ & civil to mena http://flickr.com/photos/factoryjoe/70863244/ & the guy who likes to say bullshit & prone to shouting "Bullshit" in IRC Backchannels & does not like Apple computers & was the man behind http://backstage.bbc.co.uk
- [21:09:02] <dotBen>
sorry folks, all done now
- [21:25:02] <tantek>
archive for posterity dotben ;)
- [21:25:05] <tantek>
archived even
- [21:25:44] <dotBen>
what?
- [21:26:25] <dotBen>
man the JIBOT has limit I see. I wonder whether it can suffer a buffer over-run?
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_fil_ is co-author of SPIP (www.spip.net) and works on implementing microformats in it
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hello _fil_
- [22:03:06] <hober>
hcal + wordpress + pingerati == happiness
- [22:03:36] <hober>
crazy delicious even
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- [22:09:20] <tantek>
yeah, Erica rocks. she's working on adding hCalendar + pingerati support to the CountDown plugin
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and Bill Humpries already successfully added hAtom to Kubrick
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pnhChris is Chris Casciano, blogs at http://placenamehere.com/ , and a member of the Web Standards Project.
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tantek is Tantek <http://tantek.com> and works on Technorati and develops microformats <http://microformats.org>
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ajturner is Andrew Turner, a simulation and geolocation nut who blogs at http://highearthorbit.com
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