IRC Log for #microformats on 2006-08-16

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  14. [00:54:38] <jibot> Jonnay is a programmer, graphic designer and musician. He blogs at http://blog.jonnay.net and his music is at http://www.jonnay.net
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  18. [01:42:51] <jibot> karlUshi is karlcow
  19. [01:43:04] <karlUshi> hi.
  20. [01:43:42] <karlUshi> I'm looking right now on the microformats web site for an example with multiple values in one class showing the benefits of using multiple values.
  21. [01:44:25] <karlUshi> oooh found
  22. [01:44:33] <karlUshi> <div class="vcard">
  23. [01:44:33] <karlUshi> <a class="url fn" href="http://tantek.com/">Tantek Çelik</a>
  24. [01:44:33] <karlUshi> <div class="org">Technorati</div>
  25. [01:44:33] <karlUshi> </div>
  26. [01:44:36] <karlUshi> thanks.
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  30. [03:08:53] <jibot> amanuel is Amanuel, the social ambassador at http://otavo.com
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  40. [05:06:15] <jibot> bergie is lives in Finland and blogs at http://bergie.iki.fi/blog/ and Midgard CMS developer
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  42. [05:09:08] <jibot> DanC is Dan Connolly http://www.w3.org/People/Connolly/
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  50. [06:56:42] <mfbot> [[User:Dave Cardwell]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=User:Dave_Cardwell&diff=0&oldid=8131 * Dave Cardwell * (+255) Dave Cardwell -
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  53. [07:29:24] <mfbot> [[User:Dave Cardwell]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=User:Dave_Cardwell&diff=0&oldid=8132 * Dave Cardwell * (+4) Moving headers down one as per wikipedia's guidelines.
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  57. [07:40:48] <jibot> drewinthehead is the author of hKit and a developer for Yahoo! Europe
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  59. [08:01:57] <jibot> trovster is a web developer from the UK who writes on http://www.trovster.com and helps with www.multipack.co.uk
  60. [08:04:37] <drewinthehead> mornin' trovster
  61. [08:04:46] <trovster> 'lo
  62. [08:08:35] <trovster> Wassup, anything interesting?
  63. [08:19:37] <drewinthehead> nope, nothing :D
  64. [08:21:19] <trovster> Cool :)
  65. [08:27:16] <trovster> How was Pub Standards?
  66. [08:32:18] <drewinthehead> beery ... very beery
  67. [08:32:30] <drewinthehead> probably too beery for a school night ;)
  68. [08:40:57] <mfbot> [[hcard-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcard-fr&diff=0&oldid=8133 * ChristopheDucamp * (-288) Propriétés Singulières vs. Plurielles -
  69. [08:44:08] <mfbot> [[hcard-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcard-fr&diff=0&oldid=8134 * ChristopheDucamp * (+698) Exemples "dans la jungle" -
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  71. [08:45:24] <mfbot> [[picoformats-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=picoformats-fr&diff=0&oldid=8135 * ChristopheDucamp * (+67) Références -
  72. [08:47:15] <mfbot> [[events-fr]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=events-fr&diff=0&oldid=8136 * ChristopheDucamp * (+149) A venir : - add web directions
  73. [08:50:20] <trovster> heh, sounds fun.
  74. [08:53:16] <mfbot> [[hcalendar-issues-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcalendar-issues-fr&diff=0&oldid=8137 * ChristopheDucamp * (+1005) Problématiques -
  75. [08:55:12] <mfbot> [[hcalendar-faq-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcalendar-faq-fr&diff=0&oldid=8138 * ChristopheDucamp * (+154) Q&R -
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  77. [09:02:59] <mfbot> [[hcalendar-issues-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcalendar-issues-fr&diff=0&oldid=8139 * ChristopheDucamp * (+539) Problématiques -
  78. [09:04:30] <mfbot> [[xfolk-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=xfolk-fr&diff=0&oldid=8140 * ChristopheDucamp * (+0) Introduction - furl.net
  79. [09:07:26] <mfbot> [[citation-examples]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=citation-examples&diff=0&oldid=8141 * ChristopheDucamp * (-27) BibDesk Default Template -
  80. [09:16:12] <mfbot> [[citation-examples-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=citation-examples-fr&diff=0&oldid=8142 * ChristopheDucamp * (+444) [fr:add bibdesk gabarit]
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  82. [09:24:56] <jibot> McNulty is Ciaran McNulty (http://ciaranmcnulty.com)
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  85. [09:41:44] <jibot> McNulty is Ciaran McNulty (http://ciaranmcnulty.com)
  86. [09:42:07] <McNulty> Is there a way of pointing to my hCard page from other pages on my site?
  87. [09:42:16] <McNulty> <link rel="hcard"> ?
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  89. [09:53:02] <jibot> tantek is Tantek <http://tantek.com> and works on Technorati and develops microformats <http://microformats.org>
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  91. [10:02:42] <McNulty> I tend to think of my home page (i.e. mydomain/ ) is the 'me' page, but I keep my hCard on /contact, is there a relevant link @rel I can use to point to it from the front page?
  92. [10:03:38] <trovster> What is the purpose? Link to the /contact/ page, and have class="url" domain.tld
  93. [10:06:06] <drewinthehead> i guess rel="me" is a good start, McNulty
  94. [10:06:29] <drewinthehead> then a parser could potentially start following me-links looking for hCards if it doesn't find them
  95. [10:06:41] <drewinthehead> theoretically
  96. [10:07:45] <McNulty> If I was linking to 'me' I think I'd normally use the root page - it just makes more sense to me
  97. [10:07:52] <McNulty> this is 'me', the other thing is my contact details
  98. [10:08:16] <McNulty> I guess all the pages (c|sh)ould have an hCard that is at least my name
  99. [10:08:28] <McNulty> but only the one has the tel/email/im details
  100. [10:08:44] <drewinthehead> a link is a link to page, not a site
  101. [10:09:37] <drewinthehead> so i'd say linking to a page in the same domain with rel="me" implies some kind of significance
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  103. [10:11:19] <McNulty> If I externally link to my homepage with @rel="me" and then internally link from there to /contact with @rel="me" is that confusing?
  104. [10:30:12] <drewinthehead> not to me, ymmv :)
  105. [10:31:07] <drewinthehead> rel="me" is expressing the relationship between the pages, not blessing a page with special status, so i don't think it's confusing
  106. [10:32:09] <McNulty> 'this is me... nono THIS is me' ;-)
  107. [10:33:23] <davecardwell> isn't it all you?
  108. [10:34:02] <drewinthehead> yes
  109. [10:34:07] <HenrichP> Another question on this: If I have an author link on each page's bottom that goes to the authors contact page, would taht be rel=me ?
  110. [10:34:09] <McNulty> I think there should be something more specific
  111. [10:34:13] <drewinthehead> 'this is me .. AND this is me'
  112. [10:34:16] <McNulty> @rel="contact"
  113. [10:34:55] <drewinthehead> HenrichP: you're asking who 'me' is?
  114. [10:37:19] <HenrichP> drew: :-) but I think contact works quite well .
  115. [10:37:26] <HenrichP> mcnulty: Thanks.
  116. [10:37:49] <drewinthehead> an author link should also use <address>
  117. [10:37:55] <McNulty> I wasn't answering the question
  118. [10:38:25] <HenrichP> Okey, but it kinda fits ma question or?
  119. [10:38:58] <McNulty> yeah but it's not a standard or anything
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  127. [12:19:02] <jibot> drewinthehead is the author of hKit and a developer for Yahoo! Europe
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  129. [12:24:08] <jibot> csarven is Sarven Capadisli and can be found online at http://www.csarven.ca
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  131. [12:29:19] <jibot> amanuelPB is running The Intentional Web Initiative http://intentionalweb.org
  132. [12:30:00] <amanuelPB> morning...
  133. [12:30:38] <amanuelPB> hmm most are west coasters....still sound asleep :)
  134. [12:30:39] <amanuelPB> bbl
  135. [12:31:47] <drewinthehead> it's afternoon for some of us, amanuelPB :)
  136. [12:33:48] <amanuelPB> drewinthehead: :)
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  138. [12:35:30] <jibot> briansuda is brian suda of http://suda.co.uk/ and http://claimid.com/briansuda in his freetime he works on the X2V microformats parser (-0600 CST)
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  144. [13:57:07] <jibot> sreynen is Scott Reynen, who makes things at makedatamakesense.com
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  147. [13:58:41] <jibot> briansuda is brian suda of http://suda.co.uk/ and http://claimid.com/briansuda in his freetime he works on the X2V microformats parser (-0600 CST)
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  149. [14:08:06] <jibot> amanuel is Amanuel, the social ambassador at http://otavo.com
  150. [14:14:16] <mfbot> [[distributed-conversation-formats-fr]] MN http://microformats.org/wiki/distributed-conversation-formats-fr * ChristopheDucamp * (+7289)
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  152. [14:26:08] <jibot> gsnedders is a 14 year old idiot from Scotland and pretends to have a website at http://geoffers.uni.cc/
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  160. [14:39:47] <jibot> dglazkov is Dimitri Glazkov (http://glazkov.com) and lives in Birmingham, AL, USA (-6:00 GMT)
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  165. [15:06:17] <jibot> mlinksva is Mike Linksvayer and from Creative Commons
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  167. [15:18:31] <jibot> cgriego is Chris Griego (-06:00) and a front-end developer at RD2, Inc.
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  170. [15:38:48] <jibot> Phae is Frances Berriman of http://www.fberriman.com/
  171. [15:39:08] <Phae> afternoon
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  173. [15:42:05] <drewinthehead> hi Phae
  174. [15:42:12] <drewinthehead> quiet in here today
  175. [15:42:30] <trovster> All hung over after that event down in damn London
  176. [15:42:51] <Phae> :)
  177. [15:42:58] <Phae> I'm shattered. I'm willing home time to arrive.
  178. [15:43:29] <drewinthehead> yeah, too much fun for a school night
  179. [15:43:36] * Phae nods.
  180. [15:44:02] * drewinthehead nods off
  181. [15:44:06] <Phae> heh
  182. [15:44:14] <Phae> Luckily, no one has asked me anything complicated today
  183. [15:44:58] <trovster> Too far for a school / one night.
  184. [15:45:09] <Phae> Good giggle though.
  185. [15:45:39] <Phae> Saw the thing about the geek dinner btw, drew.
  186. [15:45:47] <Phae> Night bfore barcamp.
  187. [15:46:36] <drewinthehead> oh, i've not seen that
  188. [15:46:56] <Phae> Was it not you talking about it last night? oh dear.
  189. [15:46:59] * Phae thinks harder.
  190. [15:47:10] <Phae> If you go to the barcap page I believe it is linked up on there now
  191. [15:47:16] <Phae> barcamp*
  192. [15:47:45] <trovster> http://barcamp.org/BarCampLondon ?
  193. [15:47:55] <Phae> aye
  194. [15:48:10] <drewinthehead> http://geekdinner.co.uk/
  195. [15:48:22] <Phae> mmhmm
  196. [15:48:23] <trovster> Following week is d.Construct on the friday, and Saturday is a Multipack meetin, busy ubsy
  197. [15:48:44] <Phae> I'll still be in sunny Brighton on Saturday.
  198. [15:48:58] <tantek> great to see the UK community getting so active
  199. [15:49:04] <Phae> Yeah
  200. [15:49:33] * tantek notes you should all add #barcamp to your auto-join list
  201. [15:49:40] <Phae> We're all going to get sick of seeing each other soon.
  202. [15:49:47] <tantek> no chance Phae
  203. [15:49:51] <Phae> :) I'll do that when I'm at home.
  204. [15:50:03] <Phae> What!? I am. I'll have seen the Y! lot at least 3 times in the space of a month.
  205. [15:50:04] <Phae> heh
  206. [15:50:09] <tantek> everyone I've met in the UK is too nice to get sick of
  207. [15:50:38] <trovster> You musn't 'ave met me then...
  208. [15:50:42] <trovster> Oh crap, you have! ha
  209. [15:50:50] <Phae> It's just me he's yet to meet.
  210. [15:51:15] <tantek> though we've walked in the same places apparently
  211. [15:51:47] <Phae> Yeah
  212. [15:51:53] <Phae> Good ole' Santa Monica.
  213. [15:52:16] <tantek> was just there again last night for a BarCampLA geek dinner
  214. [15:52:28] <Phae> Nice.
  215. [15:52:36] <Phae> Where was that held?
  216. [15:52:46] <tantek> Buca di Beppo's
  217. [15:52:54] <Phae> hmm.. I see
  218. [15:54:06] <tantek> here is a photo from the event http://flickr.com/photos/boogah/216699196/
  219. [15:56:06] <Phae> You just wanted to show off your flock of ladies :)
  220. [15:56:32] <drewinthehead> tantekgetstheladies
  221. [15:57:17] <tantek> oh boy. it was the only new photo tagged with "tantek". honest.
  222. [15:57:19] <trovster> Anyone recommend some good backgrounds for a Mac?
  223. [15:57:27] <Phae> heh
  224. [15:57:38] <Phae> the MF one!
  225. [15:57:50] <Phae> I like the one with the new shiney reflection. It's now on my desktop.
  226. [15:57:57] <trovster> I have the uF one on my PC double screen
  227. [15:58:04] <trovster> Too dark for my Mac, it feels
  228. [15:58:06] <Phae> You can never see it too often.
  229. [15:58:16] <Phae> Grab the PSD and do a light version then.
  230. [15:58:55] <tantek> trovster, if you like creepy creatures, you can grab the hi-res version of this: http://flickr.com/photos/tantek/209371738/
  231. [15:59:11] <trovster> Or not....
  232. [15:59:22] <Phae> heh
  233. [16:00:32] <Phae> I think it must be time for another cup of tea.
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  235. [16:00:59] <jibot> amanuelPB is running The Intentional Web Initiative http://intentionalweb.org
  236. [16:02:52] * tantek goes to check who's awake in #barcamp
  237. [16:03:49] <tantek> I thought you might like that trovster
  238. [16:03:59] <trovster> Like wha?
  239. [16:04:11] <tantek> the Ceti eel ;)
  240. [16:04:24] <Phae> I'm looking forward to barcamp :>
  241. [16:05:00] <trovster> Interesting, just joined that channel, now I have someone pm-ing me..
  242. [16:05:12] <trovster> Someone from
  243. [16:05:16] <trovster> #barcamp :(
  244. [16:05:39] <Phae> uh?
  245. [16:06:10] <trovster> I quickly joined #barcamp, now someone is bugging me in pm, fun..
  246. [16:06:18] <Phae> Try /ignore :)
  247. [16:06:37] <tantek> trovster, really?
  248. [16:07:39] <trovster> Really.
  249. [16:08:07] <drewinthehead> they've seen your shirt, trovster
  250. [16:08:33] <trovster> I ain't no redneck/lumberjack dammit. It was check-shirt-tuesday!
  251. [16:11:47] <evanpro> I didn't know there was a #barcamp
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  253. [16:13:17] <_fil_> images images....
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  255. [16:13:20] <_fil_> <dl> <dt><a url> <img /> <span>titre</span></a></dt><dd>description</dd> </dl>
  256. [16:13:37] <_fil_> is there a microformat for this?
  257. [16:13:52] <tantek> fil, that looks like a 3 column table squeezed into a <dl>
  258. [16:14:04] <tantek> what does it mean?
  259. [16:14:11] <tantek> without meaning, there is no microformat
  260. [16:14:32] <_fil_> well it's an image gallery ; the url is to the full-size photo, the img is the thumbnail
  261. [16:14:52] <_fil_> there's a title and a description
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  263. [16:15:18] <tantek> the closest to that is the media-info work
  264. [16:15:22] <_fil_> the link will have @type='image/jpeg'
  265. [16:15:30] <tantek> which is still in progress
  266. [16:15:36] <tantek> and could probably use your input
  267. [16:16:12] <_fil_> yes I checked it and didn't find what I wanted
  268. [16:17:08] <_fil_> if I go tabular I can't have one single link on the <img/> + title
  269. [16:17:21] <tantek> an image gallery definitely falls into the media-info space
  270. [16:17:38] <_fil_> there's alt="title" but then I can't use this to present a common info-bubble title+description
  271. [16:17:43] <tantek> yes, fil, that's definitely one of the limitations of semantic tables
  272. [16:18:06] <tantek> it's really too bad one can't put a <div> or <a> around a couple of <td>s in a <tr>
  273. [16:19:00] <Phae> okay. I'm gonna get out of the office. ttyl.
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  275. [16:25:10] <_fil_> it's going to be important with all the jquery stuff that's coming :)
  276. [16:25:50] <_fil_> if there's a good/common way to collect the info on the page and toy with it
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  279. [16:30:09] <drewinthehead> back later
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  287. [16:55:50] <mfbot> [[distributed-conversation-formats-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=distributed-conversation-formats-fr&diff=0&oldid=8146 * ChristopheDucamp * (+105) Exemples d'Utilisation -
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  295. [17:21:37] <kingryan> hello world
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  302. [17:26:53] <mfbot> [[location-formats-fr]] MN http://microformats.org/wiki/location-formats-fr * ChristopheDucamp * (+15382)
  303. [17:28:49] <mfbot> [[location-formats-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=location-formats-fr&diff=0&oldid=8148 * ChristopheDucamp * (+65) GML -
  304. [17:30:05] <bewest> hello kingryan
  305. [17:30:10] <kingryan> hey ben
  306. [17:30:47] <bewest> so...
  307. [17:30:55] <bewest> I noticed that google maps added a feature
  308. [17:31:02] <bewest> to support the concept of saved locations
  309. [17:31:16] * bergie (n=bergie@cs181017015.pp.htv.fi) Quit ()
  310. [17:31:23] <kingryan> really?
  311. [17:31:24] <kingryan> cool
  312. [17:31:28] <bewest> which basically obsoletes my nearwhere.com site
  313. [17:31:29] <bewest> :-(
  314. [17:32:01] <bewest> so now instead of sniffing hcards off of other pages and putting them on /my/ map
  315. [17:32:08] <bewest> maybe I'll put it on google's map
  316. [17:32:30] <bewest> dunno how easy their thing is to hack
  317. [17:33:24] <bewest> anyway, mark pilgrim might be interested, if he hasn't caught on to that feature yet
  318. [17:33:39] <bewest> it's a perfect opportunity for his js hcard parser in a GM script
  319. [17:33:41] <mfbot> [[location-formats-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=location-formats-fr&diff=0&oldid=8149 * ChristopheDucamp * (+68) Location Brainstorming -
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  321. [17:34:40] <bewest> although, I'm sure google maps doesn't publish locations as hcards, and I doubt they can take an external URI as a reference for map data
  322. [17:34:49] <bewest> actually, I think google maps can take a KML file
  323. [17:34:57] <mfbot> [[location-tagging-fr]] MN http://microformats.org/wiki/location-tagging-fr * ChristopheDucamp * (+5381)
  324. [17:34:58] <bewest> so maybe an hcard -> KML -> google maps
  325. [17:37:12] <tantek> I think briansuda was working on geo->KML
  326. [17:37:28] <mfbot> [[location-tagging-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=location-tagging-fr&diff=0&oldid=8150 * ChristopheDucamp * (+38)
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  328. [17:38:39] <bewest> cool
  329. [17:38:52] <bewest> :-( all my ideas are trumped by those more skilled than I
  330. [17:41:45] <bewest> just need to become more skilled I suppose
  331. [17:48:44] <KevinMarks> http://trac.macosforge.org/projects/collaboration/ticket/19
  332. [17:48:53] <KevinMarks> the power of asking nicely
  333. [17:54:28] <bewest> nifty
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  350. [18:09:34] <jibot> remi is Remi Prevost, a web developper (yeah, that's how we spell "developer" in french) from Quebec and blogs about web stuff at <http://remiprevost.com/>
  351. [18:11:01] <evanpro> salut remi
  352. [18:11:07] <remi> salut evanpro
  353. [18:11:25] * evanpro lit asteur http://remiprevost.com
  354. [18:11:33] <remi> :D
  355. [18:12:51] <evanpro> J'ai écrit une essai sur le sujet de bilingualisme qui peut-être t'interessa
  356. [18:13:07] <evanpro> http://evan.prodromou.name/Bilingual_Web_sites_in_Canada <-- anglais seulement!
  357. [18:13:30] <remi> ok, i'll read it:)
  358. [18:13:31] <evanpro> Damn, I should check the gender on essai
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  363. [18:41:50] <jibot> drewinthehead is the author of hKit and a developer for Yahoo! Europe
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  379. [20:31:44] <jibot> mlinksva is Mike Linksvayer and from Creative Commons
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  388. [20:49:24] <jibot> ryanlowe is Ryan Lowe, http://www.fanconcert.com
  389. [20:49:46] <pnhChris> anyone here happen to play with the vanilla forums?
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  392. [21:13:53] <pnhChris> guess not.. in any case.. hcard is being worked into the default profile page markup for the upcoming point release... http://lussumo.com/swell/119/Vanilla-101/
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  395. [21:22:22] <jibot> amanuel is Amanuel, the social ambassador at http://otavo.com
  396. [21:25:29] <mfbot> [[citation-examples-markup]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=citation-examples-markup&diff=0&oldid=8154 * Mike * (+432) added first wikipedia example
  397. [21:26:35] <mfbot> [[citation-examples-markup]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=citation-examples-markup&diff=0&oldid=8155 * Mike * (+6) added first wikipedia example
  398. [21:27:15] <amanuel> shouldn't hAtom be mentioned on this page http://microformats.org/wiki/distributed-conversation-formats
  399. [21:29:11] <mfbot> [[citation-examples-markup]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=citation-examples-markup&diff=0&oldid=8156 * Mike * (+445) added court case example
  400. [21:32:19] <tantek> amanuel, what does hAtom have to do with distributed conversations?
  401. [21:32:47] <amanuel> it can be used in that fashion
  402. [21:32:56] <tantek> seems orthogonal
  403. [21:33:17] <amanuel> true.
  404. [21:33:18] <tantek> just as XOXO can be used in that fashion
  405. [21:33:45] <amanuel> xoxo can be used for anything.
  406. [21:33:58] <tantek> and hAtom can be used for any time based list
  407. [21:34:17] <mfbot> [[citation-examples-markup]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=citation-examples-markup&diff=0&oldid=8157 * Mike * (+360) added wikipedia conference presentation example
  408. [21:34:27] <amanuel> yes but with hcard and time you can track a conversation
  409. [21:34:55] <tantek> it might be a good container yes, but I'm not sure it lends sufficient semantics
  410. [21:34:56] <amanuel> that was my thinking....which is what the news groups do
  411. [21:35:02] <amanuel> well +messageid
  412. [21:35:05] <tantek> would be interesting to see an example though
  413. [21:35:47] <amanuel> well I'll play with it some more and see if I can have something more concrete for us to discuss.
  414. [21:36:33] <tantek> note that there is an Atom/hAtom feed of the IRC logs
  415. [21:36:39] <tantek> take a look at that
  416. [21:36:43] <amanuel> I loved the container aspects for my project.
  417. [21:36:55] <amanuel> ok will do.
  418. [21:37:17] <amanuel> be back in 15 mins.
  419. [21:37:48] <mfbot> [[citation-examples-markup]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=citation-examples-markup&diff=0&oldid=8158 * Mike * (+616) add wikipedia primary historical source example
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