IRC Log for #microformats on 2006-08-30

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  4. [00:30:51] <mfbot> [[media-info-examples]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=media-info-examples&diff=0&oldid=8328 * DavidOsolkowski * (+192) Added Discogs
  5. [00:31:59] <qid> is citation-examples focused just on written media (books, magazines, journals, laws, etc.)?
  6. [00:33:34] <briansuda> qid, no, you could cite conferences, cds, dvds, etc
  7. [00:34:53] <qid> oh
  8. [00:35:33] <qid> what's the difference between media-info and citation again?
  9. [00:35:55] <qid> I'm not sure whether discogs falls under one or the other or both
  10. [00:36:05] <briansuda> it is a thin line that we are trying to corral together
  11. [00:36:29] <briansuda> media-info might consist of more meta information
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  13. [00:36:45] <briansuda> citation would be more how to identify it
  14. [00:36:52] <briansuda> but it also has meta information as well
  15. [00:37:01] <briansuda> it is a massive grey area
  16. [00:37:24] <qid> awesome
  17. [00:39:26] <qid> well, discogs only covers music, not citation or media in general, but they have probably dozens of pages of guidelines for submissions which essentially describe a format
  18. [00:39:53] <briansuda> yeah
  19. [00:40:20] <briansuda> there is alot to wade through and to make sure we don't contradict ourselves
  20. [00:42:04] <qid> http://help.discogs.com/wiki/SubmissionGuidelinesCreditList <-- a lot to wade through, heh
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  27. [01:20:06] <tantek> discogs is quite cool
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  80. [07:54:48] <jibot> drewinthehead is the author of hKit and a developer for Yahoo! Europe
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  82. [07:56:18] <Whiskey_M> 'lo
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  84. [08:03:16] <jibot> trovster is a web developer from the UK who writes on http://www.trovster.com and helps with www.multipack.co.uk
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  86. [08:08:05] <drewinthehead> mornin' all
  87. [08:13:54] <Whiskey_M> morning Drew, how goes?
  88. [08:14:19] <drewinthehead> not bad, back at work after a long weekend :)
  89. [08:14:32] <Whiskey_M> start of a new year ;-)
  90. [08:14:41] <drewinthehead> in a mild panic about preparing a mF presentation for the weekend
  91. [08:15:03] <Whiskey_M> at Barcamp?
  92. [08:15:31] <Whiskey_M> or another?
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  94. [08:25:32] <jibot> gsnedders is a 14 year old idiot from Scotland and pretends to have a website at http://geoffers.uni.cc/
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  96. [08:37:34] <drewinthehead> yeah, barcamp, Whiskey_M.
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  98. [08:45:13] <Whiskey_M> shouldn't be too bad. There are the two camps which might cause trouble, designers with "why do I need to bother with semantics" which shouldn't be too many at a Barcamp and programmers like the guys last night (and to a certain extent me), with "why not just use XML" which you might get more of, but shouldn't be too bad
  99. [08:49:31] <Whiskey_M> either way, I'll look forward to reading it when you publish it on your blog :)
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  110. [12:29:03] <Whiskey_M> quiet day today
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  112. [12:30:32] <jibot> csarven is Sarven Capadisli and can be found online at http://www.csarven.ca
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  116. [12:41:27] <jibot> WildFox is Mr. KDOM. Co-author of kdom, ksvg and kcanvas.
  117. [12:55:01] <briansuda> drewinthehead, are you around?
  118. [12:55:09] <drewinthehead> yup yup
  119. [12:55:28] <drewinthehead> do those flickr profiles look fixed now?
  120. [12:56:05] <briansuda> i haven't had a chance to check, i just woke-up
  121. [12:56:17] <briansuda> do you mind responding to this: http://microformats.org/discuss/mail/microformats-discuss/2006-August/005302.html
  122. [12:56:36] <briansuda> i'm not sure what he is talking about?
  123. [12:56:44] <drewinthehead> sure, i'll look
  124. [12:56:54] <drewinthehead> anyway, yeah, i think flickr profile hcards are back in place
  125. [12:57:05] <briansuda> cool
  126. [12:57:49] <drewinthehead> that's a funny old email
  127. [12:58:12] <briansuda> i'm pretty sure i said "it is not perfect"
  128. [12:58:22] <briansuda> and that's a pretty edge case he brought-up
  129. [12:58:28] <briansuda> and is he calling me a troll?
  130. [12:59:41] <drewinthehead> yeah, i think he is
  131. [12:59:46] <trovster> Maybe because it could be 'heh, look at this stupid tool, it tries to guess but it isn't 'perfect' heheh' sommat like that
  132. [13:00:43] <briansuda> the crap i get when i try to be helpful
  133. [13:01:07] <trovster> Tell me 'bout it :)
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  139. [13:48:41] <trovster> http://uk.techcrunch.com/?p=21 woop, gitp got a mention (on the technorati search)
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  143. [13:51:06] <jibot> briansuda is brian suda of http://suda.co.uk/ and http://claimid.com/briansuda in his freetime he works on the X2V microformats parser (-0600 CST)
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  149. [14:07:56] <jibot> pnhChris is Chris Casciano, blogs at http://placenamehere.com/ , and a member of the Web Standards Project.
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  152. [14:09:42] <jibot> ryanlowe is Ryan Lowe, http://www.fanconcert.com
  153. [14:10:34] <mfbot> [[events]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=events&diff=0&oldid=8329 * AdamDarowski * (+266) Recent -
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  157. [14:38:01] <jibot> bergie is lives in Finland and blogs at http://bergie.iki.fi/blog/ and Midgard CMS developer
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  159. [14:44:56] <jibot> sreynen is Scott Reynen, who makes things at makedatamakesense.com
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  169. [15:06:35] <jibot> cgriego is Chris Griego (-06:00) and a front-end developer at RD2, Inc.
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  172. [15:21:44] <jibot> drewinthehead is the author of hKit and a developer for Yahoo! Europe
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  179. [15:46:03] <Whiskey_M> 'lo
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  181. [15:50:39] <vmarks> hi
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  188. [16:01:53] <jibot> tantek is Tantek <http://tantek.com> and works on Technorati and develops microformats <http://microformats.org>
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  205. [17:15:18] <briansuda> It looks like Flickr DID add GEO microformats to images!
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  209. [17:25:33] <trovster> briansuda: Where, exactly?
  210. [17:25:48] <briansuda> http://flickr.com/photos/suda/166893458/
  211. [17:25:57] <briansuda> it is hidden data, just seach for GEO
  212. [17:27:15] <trovster> hmm, tails doesn't flag
  213. [17:27:44] <trovster> The Organize on Flickr is being a little slow for me, just hangs a lot of the time.
  214. [17:28:04] <trovster> It added the photos I had geotagged (correctly) but I want to add the ones I've added since, and it won't let me :(
  215. [17:31:25] <trovster> Grrr hangs at 'Loading interface...' :@
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  235. [18:14:33] <kingryan> there you are, jibot
  236. [18:14:44] <Phae> jibot is in #barcamp too
  237. [18:14:49] <Phae> so it announces in there only
  238. [18:15:13] <Phae> presumably because if you've got your channels on autojoin, you get there just before here :)
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  248. [19:17:12] <jibot> Frederic is Frederic de Villamil from France and the guy formerly known as neuro` and blogs at http://t37.net
  249. [19:17:16] <Frederic> Good evening
  250. [19:19:04] <huyhong> hi
  251. [19:21:59] <Frederic> Is there a publishing related microformat ? isbn, title, publisher... ?
  252. [19:22:36] <KevinMarks> there is a lot of debate about citation formats
  253. [19:23:42] <Frederic> I don't think about citation (or my English is really rusty), but just giving the infos about a book, a press article...
  254. [19:23:59] <Frederic> If it's what you call citation then..
  255. [19:24:03] <KevinMarks> http://microformats.org/wiki/citation-brainstorming
  256. [19:25:40] <Frederic> That's what I'm reading
  257. [19:26:21] <Frederic> Then it's just me English being rusty, thank you
  258. [19:28:21] <Frederic> Can't I use one of those formats instead of the <cite></cite> in a hresume document ?
  259. [19:31:26] <briansuda> hResume will use the hCite once it is all finished
  260. [19:32:57] <huyhong> any ideas if media is going to be bunched into something like hMedia or separated per medium (audio, video, podcast, etc)?
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  262. [19:34:01] <Frederic> huyhong: IMHO, a single media microformat would be the best
  263. [19:34:23] <Frederic> Because media has a lot of common attributes
  264. [19:34:51] <Frederic> And podcast is an audio media after all, videocast is video...
  265. [19:35:02] <qid> briansuda: what about hReview?
  266. [19:35:22] <huyhong> Frederic: i figured that much, its just a little hairy how to tackle the issue
  267. [19:37:31] <briansuda> qid, what about it?
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  269. [19:37:44] <jibot> drewinthehead is the author of hKit and a developer for Yahoo! Europe
  270. [19:39:47] <qid> briansuda: would you also be able to use hCite to identify something being reviewed?
  271. [19:39:58] <qid> assuming that something is covered by hCite, obviously
  272. [19:40:22] <briansuda> i don't see why not. It will require a small change to the hReview spec
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  274. [19:43:19] <jibot> tantek is Tantek <http://tantek.com> and works on Technorati and develops microformats <http://microformats.org>
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  277. [19:49:18] <qid> http://pastebin.com/780021 <-- any suggestions on how I can get this marked up as part of an hcard?
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  280. [19:52:57] <kingryan> qid: that looks like just an address
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  282. [19:53:41] <qid> an address and a phone number
  283. [19:53:56] <qid> wait a minute... hmm
  284. [19:54:07] <huyhong> http://microformats.org/code/hcard/creator ?
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  287. [19:55:36] <qid> http://code.bulix.org/wg7n12-15321 <-- is this legal?
  288. [19:58:22] <tantek> qid, that might work. interesting approach.
  289. [19:58:33] <tantek> what does x2v do with it when you put it in an hCard?
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  293. [20:00:44] <drewinthehead> is it somewhere wrapped in a root class, qid?
  294. [20:01:27] <qid> http://acetylene.local/drop/test.html
  295. [20:01:30] <qid> whoops
  296. [20:01:45] <qid> http://acetylene.ath.cx:8080/drop/test.html
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  298. [20:01:55] <qid> still waiting for x2v
  299. [20:02:10] <drewinthehead> http://tools.microformatic.com/query/plain/hkit/http://acetylene.ath.cx:8080/drop/test.html
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  302. [20:02:14] <drewinthehead> works for me
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  304. [20:02:44] <qid> cool
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  306. [20:03:50] <qid> looks like x2v handles it as well
  307. [20:08:45] <huyhong> does using rel-tag necessarily imply a directory structure for tags as http://somedomain.com/tag/tagvalue ?
  308. [20:09:27] <drewinthehead> no, huyhong
  309. [20:10:02] <drewinthehead> the only thing to make sure of is that the last segment of the address (without fragmnts or querystrings) is the tag value
  310. [20:10:05] <jibot> Catspaw is Michelle Levesque & blogs at http://www.insanecats.com/ & Kazpah (A) on Eitrigg (US) on WoW & recently moved to SF & now assimulated by the borGoogle & *NDA* & is AKA the Google Hottie
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  312. [20:15:24] <huyhong> drewinthehead: i see, thanks, now to convince the man to switch to seo urls ;)
  313. [20:15:30] <huyhong> sef
  314. [20:15:58] <drewinthehead> that's worth doing anyway :)
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  320. [20:20:46] <huyhong> was microformats ever intended to restrict content? since its inheritly a great filtering mechanism?
  321. [20:22:17] <cgriego> briansuda: I was looking at what you added to the rel-home-issues page about the W3C stuff. It looks like at the time they were thinking of 'home' as the default page for the browser.
  322. [20:22:52] <briansuda> yes, it is not a known problem, but just needed to be documented as a possible issue
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  324. [20:23:08] <drewinthehead> huyhong: the idea is to identify the content - what you then do with it is up for grabs!
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  331. [20:31:29] <jibot> remi is Remi Prevost, a web developper (yeah, that's how we spell "developer" in french) from Quebec and blogs about web stuff at <http://remiprevost.com/>
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  333. [20:31:36] <jibot> gsnedders is a 14 year old idiot from Scotland and pretends to have a website at http://geoffers.uni.cc/
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  335. [20:35:03] <huyhong> is anyone working actively on hMedia or is it a long ways away right now?
  336. [20:41:25] <kingryan> huyhong: I think it's been pretty dormant for awhile
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  341. [21:16:43] <kingryan> good luck DanC
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  354. [21:51:19] <drewinthehead> not holding up much hope for office hours this week, DanC :)
  355. [21:56:02] <DanC> well, my desk is now relatively clear
  356. [21:57:45] <DanC> let's see... my x2v hg repository is at 50:954244d1bd58 Jul 10...
  357. [21:58:52] <DanC> 2 changes since then... local-name() and KEY property. Aug 14 52:46196949e712
  358. [22:00:33] <DanC> and my tests repository is at Jul 10 263:99c5c9abae69
  359. [22:00:56] <DanC> 13 changes since then... 276:f396ef5fc375 Aug 02
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  361. [22:01:20] * briansuda thinks those are minor tweaks here and there, mostly a.include
  362. [22:01:42] <drewinthehead> ah, good old a.include
  363. [22:02:02] <DanC> and some hreview json stuff
  364. [22:03:56] * DanC peeks at the uf-discuss archive, without really hoping to keep up...
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  366. [22:04:44] * DanC is depressed at the slow progress of http://microformats.org/wiki/to-do#Dan_Connolly
  367. [22:05:45] <DanC> "It is not a valid review yet" -- http://microformats.org/discuss/mail/microformats-discuss/2006-August/005296.html
  368. [22:07:47] <DanC> "From a data format design perspective, breaking strict containment is bad design, and is a known anti-pattern" huh? then why do microformats allow it in various cases? that seems like a "shut up and go away" FAQ answer.
  369. [22:07:57] <DanC> (excerpting from http://microformats.org/wiki/hcard-faq#nesting-properties )
  370. [22:09:15] <briansuda> DanC, it is a wiki. Feel free to make corrections/additions
  371. [22:11:56] <mfbot> [[hcard-faq]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcard-faq&diff=0&oldid=8330 * DanC * (-114) if "breaking strict containment" were a known anti-pattern, a source should have been cited.
  372. [22:13:23] <DanC> "Aug 30 deadline for hCite"... hmm where does that come from? (excerpting from http://microformats.org/discuss/mail/microformats-discuss/2006-August/005289.html )
  373. [22:13:48] <briansuda> I think Tantek made a suggestion that we make that a soft deadline.
  374. [22:14:18] <DanC> I like plans/deadlines. I have been trying to look for them around here and hadn't seen any.
  375. [22:14:21] <briansuda> http://microformats.org/discuss/mail/microformats-discuss/2006-July/004984.html
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  377. [22:15:37] <DanC> I did some work on cite formats in the last week or so, on http://www.w3.org/People/Connolly/misc/vita
  378. [22:16:18] <DanC> briansuda, care to look at http://www.w3.org/People/Connolly/misc/vita and see how far I am from whatever hcite norms are emerging?
  379. [22:19:02] <briansuda> all of your class="author" will become class="author vcard" with all the hCard properties nested below
  380. [22:19:29] <briansuda> your class="year" will become an ISO stamp, which technically as '2006' it is valid
  381. [22:19:50] <DanC> I'm a bit schizophrenic, in the various bits of code I've written to generate bibtex from XHTML, on whether class="author" goes around all the authors or just one.
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  383. [22:20:26] <briansuda> then there is the big decision about will it be class="booktitle" or class="book"/class="fn" or <span class="type">book</span>
  384. [22:20:48] <DanC> "book" is traditionally invisible.
  385. [22:21:13] <briansuda> well, in the XSLT that converts hCite2BIB.xsl it can make all the authors a list or keep them individual - that is up to the XSLT
  386. [22:21:37] <briansuda> there is some president with the hReview class="type" and all the hCard TEL, ADR, etc
  387. [22:21:40] <DanC> is that a hypothetical hCite2BIB.xsl , or have you seen real code?
  388. [22:22:04] <briansuda> vaporware at the moment, http://suda.co.uk/projects/microformats/X2C/
  389. [22:22:29] <DanC> yes, TEL type=work seems somewhat analagous... except... "work" and "fax" are traditionally visible on business cards
  390. [22:23:05] <DanC> ew... looks like I haven't checked in my code.
  391. [22:23:09] * DanC panics a bit...
  392. [22:25:07] <qid> briansuda: precedent?
  393. [22:25:16] <briansuda> the other pro/con of type=??? is that it does not have to be enumerated. class="???" does because we can't tell if class="blue-ray" is a style or a type
  394. [22:25:27] <DanC> hmm... found a version of http://www.w3.org/People/Connolly/misc/Makefile ... checked it in... but it doesn't have a vita.bib target
  395. [22:25:38] <briansuda> qid, yes - spell check didn't catch that because it is a real word
  396. [22:26:46] <qid> ok, just wanted to make sure I was understanding that
  397. [22:28:33] <DanC> I think I was using http://www.w3.org/2004/04/xhlt91/xh2bib.xsl to make vita.bib from vita.html
  398. [22:29:28] <DanC> yes, that seems to match the scratch version of vita.bib
  399. [22:30:01] <DanC> ... which contains author info such as: [[
  400. [22:30:03] <DanC> author = {Tim Berners-Lee, Tim Bray, Dan Connolly, Paul
  401. [22:30:03] <DanC> Cotton, Roy Fielding, Mario Jeckle, Chris Lilley, Noah Mendelsohn,
  402. [22:30:03] <DanC> David Orchard, Norman Walsh, and Stuart Williams},
  403. [22:30:03] <DanC> ]]
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  405. [22:31:15] <briansuda> DanC, i'll make a note of both the XSL and your vita
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  412. [22:32:37] <DanC> I actually wrote a recent item on the XSLT, brian. http://dig.csail.mit.edu/breadcrumbs/node/130 "citing W3C specs from WWW conference papers" 25 Apr. darn. missed him.
  413. [22:33:05] <DanC> well, I'm off to dinner too.
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  428. [23:41:55] <jibot> ajturner is Andrew Turner, a simulation and geolocation nut who blogs at http://highearthorbit.com
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  430. [23:42:31] <jibot> mlinksva is Mike Linksvayer and from Creative Commons
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