IRC Log for #microformats on 2006-09-11

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  17. [02:18:11] <jibot> pnhChris is Chris Casciano, blogs at http://placenamehere.com/ , and a member of the Web Standards Project.
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  27. [05:18:32] <Frederic> morning
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  34. [05:48:41] <mfbot> [[Main Page-ja]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=Main_Page-ja&diff=0&oldid=8470 * IwaiMasaharu * (+460) sync: english: 14:39, 9 Sep 2006
  35. [05:54:38] <mfbot> [[press-ja]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=press-ja&diff=0&oldid=8471 * IwaiMasaharu * (+368) sync: English: 02:25, 29 Aug 2006
  36. [05:57:14] <mfbot> [[presentations-ja]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=presentations-ja&diff=0&oldid=8472 * IwaiMasaharu * (+312) sync: english: 23:50, 28 Aug 2006
  37. [06:01:45] <mfbot> [[hcalendar-ja]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcalendar-ja&diff=0&oldid=8473 * IwaiMasaharu * (+1173) sync: english: 01:39, 6 Sep 2006
  38. [06:08:31] <mfbot> [[Main Page-ja]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=Main_Page-ja&diff=0&oldid=8474 * IwaiMasaharu * (+0) 仕様 - 翻訳完了のものを明記
  39. [06:10:57] <mfbot> [[rel-nofollow-ja]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=rel-nofollow-ja&diff=0&oldid=8475 * IwaiMasaharu * (+3) 概要 - 日本語表現を修正
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  74. [10:11:09] <Whiskey_M> 'lo
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  76. [10:19:28] <drewinthehead> 'lo Whiskey_M
  77. [10:19:36] <Whiskey_M> how goes today?
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  82. [10:55:44] <drewinthehead> bit slow today :)
  83. [10:57:50] <Whiskey_M> it's monday, I think you can be forgiven ;)
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  91. [11:57:26] <jibot> briansuda is brian suda of http://suda.co.uk/ and http://claimid.com/briansuda in his freetime he works on the X2V microformats parser (-0600 CST)
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  107. [12:40:44] <mfbot> [[Main Page]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=Main_Page&diff=0&oldid=8476 * Cdcdcd * (+31827)
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  109. [12:46:08] <drewinthehead> not that it's mad busy in here, but most places will be observing a silence in about a minute.
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  114. [13:14:51] <jibot> remi is Remi Prevost, a web developper (yeah, that's how we spell "developer" in french) from Quebec and blogs about web stuff at <http://remiprevost.com/>
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  116. [13:46:38] <briansuda> hm... another MF cheat-sheet (http://www.ilovejackdaniels.com/microformats_cheat_sheet.pdf) if people find aspects of this more useful, i am open to extending mine
  117. [13:50:14] <drewinthehead> the only thing i think is useful on that one, briansuda, is the date format
  118. [13:50:31] <drewinthehead> in all other ways the original remains the best
  119. [13:50:50] <briansuda> ok, i can certainly look into adding a few ISO examples
  120. [13:51:00] <briansuda> itteration is key
  121. [13:53:49] <drewinthehead> i'd say that the examples given are rather over-blown for a cheat sheet
  122. [13:54:47] <briansuda> i think that is par for all the jack daniels cheat sheets
  123. [13:58:56] <keithalexander> Whiskey_M, what is the distinction between POX and just XML?
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  126. [14:06:40] <gsnedders> do MF use ISO 8601 for the dates?
  127. [14:07:23] <gsnedders> that makes them slightly hard to do in a small cheatsheet :)
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  136. [14:30:02] <jibot> pnhChris is Chris Casciano, blogs at http://placenamehere.com/ , and a member of the Web Standards Project.
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  138. [14:45:40] <qid> um
  139. [14:45:46] <qid> since when is rel comma-separated?
  140. [14:45:54] <qid> I thought it was space-separated, like class
  141. [14:47:10] <qid> http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/struct/links.html <-- indeed it is
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  143. [14:48:53] <briansuda> qid, where do you see it states as comma seperated?
  144. [14:50:32] <qid> for XFN
  145. [14:50:41] <qid> in that cheat sheet PDF
  146. [14:51:05] <qid> it says ""friend, met, colleague" should be a comma-separated selection from the values below."
  147. [14:51:21] <qid> W3C says "The value of this attribute is a space-separated list of link types."
  148. [14:51:32] <qid> I believe the W3C is correct
  149. [14:51:49] <trovster> rel="friend met" indeed
  150. [14:51:53] <qid> thus the PDF has an error
  151. [14:52:42] <briansuda> it would appear as such
  152. [14:52:43] <evanpro> Yes
  153. [14:52:53] <evanpro> All the examples on the web show it space-separated
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  158. [15:29:11] <jibot> sreynen is Scott Reynen, who makes things at makedatamakesense.com
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  160. [15:57:36] <mfbot> [[Special:Log/block]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=Special:Log/block&diff=0&oldid=0 * Tantek * (+0) blocked "User:Cdcdcd" with an expiry time of infinite: spam
  161. [15:57:42] <mfbot> [[Main Page]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=Main_Page&diff=0&oldid=8477 * Tantek * (-31827) Reverted edit of Cdcdcd, changed back to last version by ChristopheDucamp
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  164. [16:09:31] <jibot> cgriego is Chris Griego (-06:00) and a front-end architect with rd2inc.com
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  181. [16:54:53] <jibot> mlinksva is Mike Linksvayer and from Creative Commons
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  183. [16:58:32] <jibot> tantek is Tantek <http://tantek.com> and works on Technorati and develops microformats <http://microformats.org>
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  186. [17:10:51] <mfbot> [[metalink-examples]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=metalink-examples&diff=0&oldid=8478 * Ant * (+4) fix link to metalinker.org
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  223. [19:31:47] <drewinthehead> greetings
  224. [19:33:02] <bewes2> greetings
  225. [19:33:10] <bewes2> drewinthehead: how's the microformatic stuff going?
  226. [19:33:38] <drewinthehead> good - in fits and starts
  227. [19:33:54] <drewinthehead> anything in particular you're looking for?
  228. [19:34:22] <bewes2> ah... I've just been continuing to think about URI schemes and whatnot
  229. [19:34:27] <bewes2> giving every piece of data a URI
  230. [19:34:55] <drewinthehead> sounds interesting
  231. [19:36:29] <bewes2> and I remembered that we discussed some URI design
  232. [19:36:35] <bewes2> and that you actually implemented it on your site
  233. [19:36:51] <bewes2> and was wondering how you felt about it now, after it's seen some use
  234. [19:36:57] <bewes2> I wrote a bit about it http://bewest.wordpress.com/2006/09/03/uri-design-web-api/
  235. [19:37:05] <bewes2> however, I've recieved some feedback on some of those ideas
  236. [19:37:19] <bewes2> and should probably do another post soon to track my current thinking
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  238. [19:40:05] <drewinthehead> so currently we have something more like http://service.domain.com/operation/format/action/manifestdata would you say?
  239. [19:40:17] <bewes2> yeah
  240. [19:40:23] <bewes2> operation is badly named
  241. [19:40:34] <bewes2> someone really hated that I named it operation and found it confusing with action
  242. [19:40:44] <bewes2> and I could be convinced to let format be a parameter
  243. [19:41:34] <bewes2> have you thought about this at all? how has your experience been with your current scheme?
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  248. [19:44:26] <drewinthehead> i'm not sure the current scheme is quite how i'd like it stylistically
  249. [19:44:41] <drewinthehead> but it's functional and there's reasoning behind it
  250. [19:45:34] <bewes2> so what bothers you about it? that's what I'm interested in... especially since you've actually seen some use out of it
  251. [19:45:38] <chrisk> hi guys
  252. [19:46:07] <chrisk> i was at dConstruct last week, and you got me thinking about microformats
  253. [19:46:17] <chrisk> aswell as making my liver hurt
  254. [19:47:14] <KevinMarks> Suw was wearing her microformats t-shirt and getting people asking her about them
  255. [19:47:18] <drewinthehead> hah! welcome chrisk
  256. [19:47:47] <chrisk> two thoughts....
  257. [19:48:07] <chrisk> firstly, aside from the javascript bookmarks
  258. [19:48:17] <chrisk> is there any microformats plugin for safari?
  259. [19:48:39] <drewinthehead> bewes2 - one thing we were trying to do it get the service name and the data up close together. in hindsight, i think i'd prefer something more along the lines of that post, with the service up front
  260. [19:48:53] <drewinthehead> not that i know of yet, chrisk
  261. [19:49:07] <chrisk> secondly, i'm a corporate whore, slowly going insane working for a large financial services company - are there any microfomats specifically aimed at that industry?
  262. [19:49:29] <drewinthehead> microformats try to tackle quite broad, generic problems
  263. [19:49:32] <chrisk> drewinthehead: any in development? (I'm tempted to tinker with some XCode)
  264. [19:49:52] <chrisk> I was thinking perhaps describing financial transactions?
  265. [19:50:10] <KevinMarks> well, follow the process doc - start by stating problems and gathering examples
  266. [19:50:27] <drewinthehead> i don't know of any in development - mf-discuss would be a good place to ask, as any developer would probably be reading that
  267. [19:51:22] <drewinthehead> the key thing chrisk is to find examples of how people are doing stuff like financial transactions already - where are they published and how are they marked up
  268. [19:51:47] <drewinthehead> if something's going to make a good microformat, you should be able to tap a rich vein of examples
  269. [19:51:51] <chrisk> okay, that sounds like a good place too start
  270. [19:52:39] <chrisk> i was thinking 'what do i want to do with financial transactions', and my answer would be to gather them in some accounting type software
  271. [19:53:06] <chrisk> so could range from online statementing, to ecommerce reciepts
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  274. [19:55:17] <pnhChris> my kneejerk reaction would be that there are just so many different transaction types that require different data (security sales, purchase receipts, bills, deposits, etc)
  275. [19:55:26] <chrisk> just a thought i had in the shower this morning ;)
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  278. [19:55:45] <pnhChris> would really need some examination to see what is really useful as a subset
  279. [19:55:50] <drewinthehead> all thoughts are valid :) what you need next is that research to back it up
  280. [19:55:52] <KevinMarks> still worth looking
  281. [19:55:57] <pnhChris> or universally applicable enough
  282. [19:56:02] <KevinMarks> thing is few of them are publicly listed
  283. [19:56:19] <chrisk> the dConstruct backnetwork site makes some good use of microformats, and looking at ways i can work them into my job to make our sites better
  284. [19:56:48] <pnhChris> but i can certainly see things like reciepts being modelable... there's certainly a lot of prior work on the markup end there (though not on the consumption end)
  285. [19:57:32] * briansuda is not sure what he just step into?
  286. [19:57:37] <chrisk> i think some of it is down to how much you want to make things up - they way i do my finances I try to be 'fuzzy', but that may not fit other folks intended uses
  287. [19:57:57] <pnhChris> briansuda: financial data
  288. [19:58:10] <chrisk> briansuda: microformats for financial services web apps
  289. [19:58:25] <chrisk> and/or stupid newbie questions ;)
  290. [19:58:42] * briansuda vaguely remember something like this before... searches the wiki for quiken references
  291. [19:58:54] <chrisk> cool, i shall take a look
  292. [19:59:44] <briansuda> nothing - it might have been pre-mf.org
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  296. [20:02:18] * briansuda notes several dConstruct videos online (http://blip.tv/posts/?topic_name=d.construct)
  297. [20:02:41] <briansuda> Jeremy Keith on the Joy of API's mentions Microformats
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  299. [20:04:14] <chrisk> i was gutted that i missed the microformats picknic
  300. [20:04:18] <chrisk> *picnic
  301. [20:04:27] <bewest> there was a picnic?
  302. [20:04:30] <chrisk> yeah
  303. [20:04:30] * bewest checks the event page
  304. [20:04:39] <chrisk> Jeremy preached to the masses
  305. [20:04:52] <drewinthehead> there are some great photos on flickr
  306. [20:04:53] <chrisk> and may have also fed the crowd with 5 fish and a few loaves of bread
  307. [20:05:20] <chrisk> drewinthehead: and some slightly more surreal ones!
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  311. [20:06:25] <chrisk> the sea is cold... especially at 4am
  312. [20:06:59] <chrisk> I'm tempted to go to the MicroFormats event on the 30th up in London - is it recommended for newbies?
  313. [20:07:21] <drewinthehead> we'll make it suit whoever's there, chrisk
  314. [20:07:48] <chrisk> excellent
  315. [20:07:49] <drewinthehead> but it's primarily a social to chat with other like-minded folk
  316. [20:08:04] <drewinthehead> no presentations or anything :D
  317. [20:08:08] <chrisk> good good
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  320. [20:08:25] <drewinthehead> for that, the next london WSG meeting is a mF special
  321. [20:08:51] <chrisk> ooo
  322. [20:09:06] <gsnedders> going to london… too far, sadly :(
  323. [20:09:09] <gsnedders> and too expensive, really.
  324. [20:09:10] <chrisk> I'm up in london on Thursday so going to head to PubStandards methinks
  325. [20:09:43] <chrisk> I've been wanting to get more involved in community stuff etc for a while now, dConsttruct really reignited that desire
  326. [20:09:58] <chrisk> moreso than the Future of Web apps
  327. [20:10:11] <chrisk> I think it was the social events etc.
  328. [20:10:36] <KevinMarks> dconstruct sounded like a good event
  329. [20:10:44] <drewinthehead> i'm not sure my liver will cope with PubStandards this week
  330. [20:10:50] <chrisk> yeah, i think i got a lot out of it
  331. [20:11:04] <chrisk> there always inspirational
  332. [20:11:04] <drewinthehead> podcasts available soon ...!
  333. [20:11:20] <chrisk> cool
  334. [20:12:13] <chrisk> I was speaking to my boss, and a few business parters today about doing our own Hack Day type thing following the Yahoo presentation
  335. [20:12:21] <drewinthehead> awesome
  336. [20:12:40] <chrisk> only slight roadblock is that we have very few Web geeks
  337. [20:12:45] <chrisk> but i reckon we can work around that
  338. [20:13:15] <drewinthehead> the idea is to get teams with a mix of skills, so it could still work
  339. [20:13:22] <chrisk> yeah, exactly
  340. [20:13:32] <KevinMarks> i notice related tags for dconstruct on flickr include microformats, microformatstshirt
  341. [20:13:49] <chrisk> I'm training some of our new graduates in a few weeks, so going to test it out
  342. [20:14:09] <chrisk> if it works then will look to get technologies and marketing folk together
  343. [20:16:53] <briansuda> i think it is difficult to get MF T-Shirts over to Europe
  344. [20:17:01] <gsnedders> mmm… to get to London would cost around £50
  345. [20:17:02] <briansuda> Europe needs more schwag!
  346. [20:17:21] <chrisk> i wish there was something like cafepress which was european
  347. [20:17:27] <briansuda> gsnedders, you should watch refreshedinburgh.org
  348. [20:17:39] <gsnedders> then the problem of hotels… and of conning my parents into letting me go :P
  349. [20:17:52] <chrisk> hell, i wish threadless had a UK e-store too.... dConstruct was a massive advert for it!
  350. [20:17:58] <gsnedders> briansuda: uh… that gives a Error 404 :P
  351. [20:18:16] <briansuda> yeah, it was up a few months ago, hopefully it will get started again
  352. [20:18:28] <gsnedders> briansuda: what is it?
  353. [20:18:30] <drewinthehead> hoping to get a spreadshirt store started
  354. [20:18:45] <drewinthehead> i just tested them out and the quality is good
  355. [20:18:57] <drewinthehead> service and pricing is also fine
  356. [20:19:05] <chrisk> that would be quite good
  357. [20:19:08] <drewinthehead> just need to find the time to do it :)
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  359. [20:19:13] <chrisk> can you upload your own designs?
  360. [20:19:23] <drewinthehead> yup
  361. [20:19:29] <drewinthehead> let me find an example ...
  362. [20:19:36] <briansuda> gsnedders, see http://refreshaustin.org/
  363. [20:19:38] <gsnedders> Edinburgh is close enough to just go down for the day, and therefore more likely to be able to get my parents to let me to go
  364. [20:19:53] <briansuda> or http://www.refreshingcities.org/
  365. [20:20:06] <drewinthehead> http://twopointohyeah.com/
  366. [20:21:42] * briansuda likes "well fed"
  367. [20:22:05] <drewinthehead> that's the one i opted for, briansuda.
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  369. [20:22:20] <briansuda> i am on a Feed Diet
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  371. [20:28:00] <drewinthehead> hmm .. looking at the processes available from spreadshirt, i'm not sure the mF logo would work
  372. [20:28:19] <drewinthehead> it'd have to be on a white rectangle, which would majorly suck
  373. [20:28:27] <drewinthehead> or as an outline
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  375. [20:28:58] <drewinthehead> who's guardian of the logo originals?
  376. [20:29:14] <briansuda> community mark (aka all of us)
  377. [20:30:28] <drewinthehead> oh sure, i'm thinking about the source files
  378. [20:30:38] <drewinthehead> presumably someone has a nice vector version somewhere
  379. [20:31:00] <briansuda> hm... there were some SVGs created
  380. [20:31:27] <briansuda> otherwise i think SimpleBits Dan has the originals, but i'm not sure they are available
  381. [20:31:57] <drewinthehead> ok sure. territory i'm all too familiar with :)
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  383. [20:36:01] <drewinthehead> actually, it'd work if the three shades of green were just block colour, not grads
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  388. [20:48:17] <briansuda> here are SVGs for the green and orange logos (http://remiprevost.com/weblog/2006/06/26/microformats-le-logo-en-vectoriel-2/)
  389. [20:52:54] <drewinthehead> do we know the purpose of the orange one?
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  391. [20:55:17] <KevinMarks> we use that on pingerati
  392. [20:55:31] <KevinMarks> based on the comosite diagram I think
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  395. [20:56:25] <KevinMarks> it's on the homepage
  396. [20:57:05] <briansuda> you mean the orange logo from a design standards-guide point of view?
  397. [20:57:13] <drewinthehead> yeah
  398. [20:57:22] <drewinthehead> why do we have a non-green version at all?
  399. [20:58:03] <briansuda> not sure we've had both from day one, and the green seems to have won out
  400. [20:59:08] <KevinMarks> we used the orange one on pingerati as an 'associated by not part of microformats.org' idea
  401. [20:59:23] <KevinMarks> s/by/but/
  402. [20:59:31] <KevinMarks> but that was a bit arbitrary of us
  403. [21:00:42] <drewinthehead> perhaps that's not such a bad idea
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  410. [21:08:53] <bewest> sheesh
  411. [21:09:35] <bewest> a coworker just found that out of a sample collection of tens of millions of xml documents (rdf cc license), only a very small portion are correct
  412. [21:10:05] <bewest> I tried explaining that that is what constitutes the evidence for saying things like "POX is harmful... namespaces are harmful and so on..."
  413. [21:10:27] <bewest> so his response was that it was not XML's problem, but an authorship problem
  414. [21:10:30] <bewest> gah...
  415. [21:11:14] <bewest> and then implied that we should abandon open source and go to company specific propriety, because companies can enforce internal tightly controlled authorship standards
  416. [21:11:38] * bewest doesn't understand why people don't connect the dots
  417. [21:12:22] <bewest> by very small portion, I mean about 63 got it mostly correct, and only 1 got it completely correct
  418. [21:12:29] <bewest> although the data is 3 years old... so who knows
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  420. [21:16:03] <bewest> funny how quick people are to blame people for usability problems instead of the system.
  421. [21:34:23] <mfbot> [[hcalendar]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcalendar&diff=0&oldid=8481 * AndyMabbett * (+20) Examples in the wild - update
  422. [21:35:34] <mfbot> [[hcard]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcard&diff=0&oldid=8482 * AndyMabbett * (+40) Examples in the wild - link
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  424. [21:40:57] <tantek> ask Dan Cederholm (simplebits) about the design purpose of the orange logo
  425. [21:41:12] <Phae> Evening.
  426. [21:41:28] <dardarsauce> yo
  427. [21:42:06] <briansuda> evening
  428. [21:42:33] <Phae> :)
  429. [21:43:11] <tantek> greetings
  430. [21:43:29] <tantek> looks like dconstruct and picnic were quite fun events as evidenced on Flickr.
  431. [21:43:41] <Phae> Very!
  432. [21:43:49] <Phae> I'll do a write-up for MF.org tomorrow.
  433. [21:46:12] <tantek> awesome
  434. [21:46:46] <Phae> Doing event write-ups seems like a good way to keep the blog a bit more busy.
  435. [21:46:55] <Phae> We should encourage others to do it in other countries too.
  436. [21:49:09] <tantek> yes
  437. [21:49:23] <tantek> and also announcements of major support
  438. [21:50:36] <Phae> Yep.
  439. [22:00:00] <mfbot> [[screencasts]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=screencasts&diff=0&oldid=8483 * Brian * (+149) added dConstruct video
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  442. [22:22:49] <bunny> somebody here showed me a "proof-of-concept" blog page with comments marked up in hatom, a month or two back (or maybe more) -- and I forgot to bookmark it. Anybody know where the page is or who it was?
  443. [22:35:34] <Phae> I believe the Geek in the Park site had the comments hAtomed, incidentally
  444. [22:35:55] <Phae> My comments are half done, due to my laziness about tidying it up.
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  446. [22:46:07] <KevinMarks> is it on the hAtom page under example,s bunny?
  447. [22:46:48] <bunny> hmmm not certain
  448. [22:46:52] <bunny> somebody in here had done it
  449. [22:46:56] <bunny> he pointed me to it
  450. [22:46:59] <bunny> maybe it's in the examples
  451. [22:47:06] <bunny> will look tomorrow at work
  452. [22:47:06] <bunny> getting late here
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