IRC Log for #microformats on 2006-09-21
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http://webkit.org/blog/?p=68 - HTML, XML and XHTML
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[[currency-brainstorming]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=currency-brainstorming&diff=0&oldid=8726 * AndyMabbett * (+342) Straw man proposal - another example
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[[currency-brainstorming]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=currency-brainstorming&diff=0&oldid=8727 * AndyMabbett * (+0) Examples - oops!
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[[species-brainstorming]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=species-brainstorming&diff=0&oldid=8728 * AndyMabbett * (+35) Questions - Crosses (botany)
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[[species-brainstorming]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=species-brainstorming&diff=0&oldid=8729 * AndyMabbett * (+0) To add -
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[[what-are-microformats]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=what-are-microformats&diff=0&oldid=8730 * AndyMabbett * (+102) Andy Mabbett - alternative
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edsu is Ed Summers from the Library of Congress <http://www.inkdroid.org>
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evanpro is Evan Prodromou, info at http://wikitravel.org/en/User:Evan
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chimezie is Chimezie Ogbuji - He is a mammal
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tantek is Tantek <http://tantek.com> and works on Technorati and develops microformats <http://microformats.org>
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morning
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bengee is Benjamin Nowack (http://bnode.org/)
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briansuda is brian suda of http://suda.co.uk and is at (-0000 GMT) and is author of "Using Microformats" for O'Reilly [http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/microformats/]
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- [06:57:15] <Frederic>
re
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gsnedders is a 14 year old idiot from Scotland and pretends to have a website at http://geoffers.uni.cc/
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danja is Danny Ayers, http://dannyayers.com
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drewinthehead is the author of hKit and a developer for Yahoo! Europe
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mornin'
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gsnedders is a 14 year old idiot from Scotland and pretends to have a website at http://geoffers.uni.cc/
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trovster is a web developer from the UK who writes on http://www.trovster.com and helps with www.multipack.co.uk
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morning trovmeister.
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mornin'
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tantek is Tantek <http://tantek.com> and works on Technorati and develops microformats <http://microformats.org>
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bergie is lives in Finland and blogs at http://bergie.iki.fi/blog/ and Midgard CMS developer
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danja is Danny Ayers, http://dannyayers.com
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[[events/2006-09-30-london-microformats-vevent]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=events/2006-09-30-london-microformats-vevent&diff=0&oldid=8731 * MarkNormanFrancis * (+73)
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csarven is Sarven Capadisli and can be found online at http://www.csarven.ca
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'lo
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drewinthehead is the author of hKit and a developer for Yahoo! Europe
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edsu is Ed Summers from the Library of Congress <http://www.inkdroid.org>
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drewinthehead is the author of hKit and a developer for Yahoo! Europe
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sreynen is Scott Reynen, who makes things at makedatamakesense.com
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danja is Danny Ayers, http://dannyayers.com
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remi is Remi Prevost, a web developper (yeah, that's how we spell "developer" in french) from Quebec and blogs about web stuff at <http://remiprevost.com/>
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pnhChris is Chris Casciano, blogs at http://placenamehere.com/ , and a member of the Web Standards Project.
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pnhChris is Chris Casciano, blogs at http://placenamehere.com/ , and a member of the Web Standards Project.
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danja is Danny Ayers, http://dannyayers.com
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remi is Remi Prevost, a web developper (yeah, that's how we spell "developer" in french) from Quebec and blogs about web stuff at <http://remiprevost.com/>
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dotBen is Ben Metcalfe & CTO Grassroots Architect of Citizen Agency (http://citizenagency.com) with Tara & Chris & blogs at http://benmetcalfe.com/blog/ & civil to mena http://flickr.com/photos/factoryjoe/70863244/ & the guy who likes to say bullshit & prone to shouting "Bullshit" in IRC Backchannels & does not like Apple computers & was the man behind http://backstage.bbc.co.uk
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[[currency-brainstorming]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=currency-brainstorming&diff=0&oldid=8732 * AndyMabbett * (-29) Examples - better
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[[currency-brainstorming]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=currency-brainstorming&diff=0&oldid=8733 * AndyMabbett * (+27) Examples - better (but still not a real abbreviation)
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[[currency-brainstorming]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=currency-brainstorming&diff=0&oldid=8734 * AndyMabbett * (-19) Examples - better?
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[[User:Joshua Brewer]] N http://microformats.org/wiki/User:Joshua_Brewer * Joshua Brewer * (+507)
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[[User:Joshua Brewer]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=User:Joshua_Brewer&diff=0&oldid=8735 * Joshua Brewer * (+63)
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[[User:Joshua Brewer]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=User:Joshua_Brewer&diff=0&oldid=8736 * Joshua Brewer * (-63)
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[[User:Joshua Brewer]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=User:Joshua_Brewer&diff=0&oldid=8737 * Joshua Brewer * (+21)
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[[User:Joshua Brewer]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=User:Joshua_Brewer&diff=0&oldid=8738 * Joshua Brewer * (+180)
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[[User:Joshua Brewer]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=User:Joshua_Brewer&diff=0&oldid=8739 * Joshua Brewer * (-15)
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bewest is curious about emerging standards and works for Alexa.com
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[[User:Joshua Brewer]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=User:Joshua_Brewer&diff=0&oldid=8740 * Joshua Brewer * (-52)
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[[User:Joshua Brewer]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=User:Joshua_Brewer&diff=0&oldid=8741 * Joshua Brewer * (+14)
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[[User:Joshua Brewer]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=User:Joshua_Brewer&diff=0&oldid=8742 * Joshua Brewer * (+14)
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mlinksva is Mike Linksvayer and from Creative Commons
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cgriego is Chris Griego (-06:00) and a front-end architect with rd2inc.com
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drewinthehead is the author of hKit and a developer for Yahoo! Europe
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hi drewinthehead
- [18:58:15] <drewinthehead>
hi gsnedders
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[[hcalendar-intro]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcalendar-intro&diff=0&oldid=8743 * AndyMabbett * (+54) Example - replace place-holders with examples
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- [20:59:27] <drewinthehead>
http://www.ditchnet.org/wp/2006/09/20/formats-hurt-my-eyes/
- [21:02:48] * gsnedders can't imagine having to declare 5 namespaces… that'd just get confusing
- [21:03:13] <KevinMarks>
some people won't get it
- [21:04:11] <gsnedders>
I think XML has valid uses. This is not one of them.
- [21:05:03] <drewinthehead>
this guy seems to think of pages as stand-alone islands
- [21:05:27] <drewinthehead>
how do we interoperate if everyone's using a different schema
- [21:05:53] <KevinMarks>
well, he wants a geo schema
- [21:06:04] <KevinMarks>
and if he had linekd to a real one, he might have had a case
- [21:06:09] <KevinMarks>
as there are a few
- [21:06:30] <gsnedders>
why is there more than one?
- [21:06:48] <KevinMarks>
because it's XML
- [21:06:53] <KevinMarks>
Babel r us
- [21:08:27] <gsnedders>
just seems stupid. everyone trying to create competing XML specs.
- [21:08:40] <gsnedders>
anyhow, g'night
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- [21:09:42] <bewest>
his tagline is "Reinvented"....
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- [21:43:48] <pnhChris>
hcard parsing question if anyone is up for it..
- [21:44:01] <pnhChris>
since "tel" isn't a valid type
- [21:44:18] <drewinthehead>
it's not?
- [21:44:29] <pnhChris>
is it legal to have a no "type" but a "value" anyway
- [21:44:31] <pnhChris>
um
- [21:44:41] <drewinthehead>
ah, right.. voice is the type :)
- [21:44:41] <pnhChris>
tel is the main class name
- [21:44:50] <pnhChris>
e.g.
- [21:44:52] <drewinthehead>
yes
- [21:44:57] <pnhChris>
my content says
- [21:45:07] <pnhChris>
tel: 1 800 555 1212
- [21:45:14] <pnhChris>
fax: 1 800 555 2222
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- [21:45:53] <pnhChris>
i'd like to mark up the first line as:
- [21:46:03] <pnhChris>
<div class="tel">tel: <span class="value">1 800 555 1212</span></div>
- [21:46:26] <pnhChris>
rather then fight with the client over the text being tel vs. voice
- [21:46:54] <pnhChris>
(the other line is clearly <div class="tel"><span class="type">fax</span>: <span class="value">1 800 555 2222</span></div>
- [21:47:33] <drewinthehead>
i'd say that should be valid
- [21:47:43] <pnhChris>
k
- [21:47:50] <pnhChris>
more a gut check question ... i did too
- [21:47:54] <pnhChris>
i'll see how it parses later
- [21:47:57] <drewinthehead>
hcard-parsing doesn't make it crystal
- [21:48:37] <pnhChris>
if the tools flub it i'll bring it up on the dev list today or tomorrow
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- [21:51:51] * pnhChris wonders if anyone has ever published email type
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- [21:52:04] * drewinthehead makes no guarantees as to hKit behaviour ;)
- [21:52:27] <pnhChris>
particularly a type of "other IANA registered address types"
- [21:52:29] <pnhChris>
;)
- [21:53:00] <drewinthehead>
;)
- [21:53:02] <drewinthehead>
night
- [21:53:06] <pnhChris>
g'night
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- [22:14:14] <mfbot>
[[hatom-examples]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hatom-examples&diff=0&oldid=8744 * AndyMabbett * (+24) start with link to parent page
- [22:14:48] <yakk>
I wish there was an atom to hatom xslt
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[[hatom-examples]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hatom-examples&diff=0&oldid=8745 * AndyMabbett * (+0) decap
- [22:15:49] <KevinMarks>
dunno about xslt, but should be easy to do as a python cgi, as python has the feedparser
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[[hatom]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hatom&diff=0&oldid=8746 * AndyMabbett * (-3) typo
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