IRC Log for #microformats on 2006-10-24
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- [00:31:20] <bewest>
http://bewest.wordpress.com/2006/10/24/idea-todo-semantic-web-date-selector/ microformat informed date selector
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cgriego is Chris Griego (-06:00) and a front-end architect with rd2inc.com
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bergie is lives in Finland and blogs at http://bergie.iki.fi/blog/ and Midgard CMS developer
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tantek is Tantek <http://tantek.com> and works on Technorati and develops microformats <http://microformats.org>
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- [05:09:48] <Frederic>
Morning
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Jedi_ is Jedi <http://Jedi.org/> ( 08:00) and working at Creative Commons Taiwan <http://creativecommons.org.tw/>
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bergie is lives in Finland and blogs at http://bergie.iki.fi/blog/ and Midgard CMS developer
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csarven is Sarven Capadisli and can be found online at http://www.csarven.ca
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bengee is Benjamin Nowack (http://bnode.org/)
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McNulty is Ciaran McNulty (http://ciaranmcnulty.com)
- [08:00:31] <mfbot>
[[species-examples-regrouped]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=species-examples-regrouped&diff=0&oldid=9780 * SXBRC * (+626) West Midland Bird Club -
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trovster is a web developer from the UK who writes on http://www.trovster.com and helps with www.multipack.co.uk
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danja is Danny Ayers, http://dannyayers.com
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- [08:14:07] <mfbot>
[[species-examples-regrouped]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=species-examples-regrouped&diff=0&oldid=9781 * SXBRC * (+726)
- [08:17:28] <mfbot>
[[species-examples-regrouped]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=species-examples-regrouped&diff=0&oldid=9782 * CharlesRoper * (+35) WildRye.info -
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[[species-examples-regrouped]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=species-examples-regrouped&diff=0&oldid=9783 * CharlesRoper * (-8) WildRye.info -
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[[species-examples-regrouped]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=species-examples-regrouped&diff=0&oldid=9784 * CharlesRoper * (-1) WildRye.info -
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McNulty: morning, did you try the tails export on your mac last night?
- [08:23:16] <McNulty>
I'm afraid I didn't, I went out last night instead.
- [08:23:22] <McNulty>
Will tonight though ;-)
- [08:23:41] <mfbot>
[[species-examples-regrouped]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=species-examples-regrouped&diff=0&oldid=9785 * CharlesRoper * (+25) WildRye.info -
- [08:25:35] <mcknut>
hehe, fair enough
- [08:26:26] <mcknut>
I heard from someone who couldn't import the vcards into his nokia, but we couldn't figure out why, he had some that it would accept but there wasn't much difference between them
- [08:27:30] <McNulty>
hmmm
- [08:27:39] <McNulty>
.ICS?
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- [08:28:48] <mcknut>
do you mean could he import them? not sure, he didn't say
- [08:29:08] <mfbot>
[[species-examples-regrouped]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=species-examples-regrouped&diff=0&oldid=9786 * AndyMabbett * (+420) WildRye.info - em, i, or style?
- [08:29:24] <McNulty>
I meant you didn't change it to save them as VCS or anything yet
- [08:30:34] <mfbot>
[[species-examples-regrouped]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=species-examples-regrouped&diff=0&oldid=9787 * AndyMabbett * (+65) WildRye.info - stong, bold or styles?
- [08:31:07] <mcknut>
ah right, no this was the vcards, not the ical stuff, so different to my problem
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[[species-examples-regrouped]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=species-examples-regrouped&diff=0&oldid=9788 * AndyMabbett * (+21) WildRye.info - heavier-font-weight
- [08:31:18] <McNulty>
aaah right
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- [09:21:13] <Ronnos>
Goede morgen heren
- [09:23:19] <Ronnos>
?def Ronnos is Ron Kok, a friendly student Communication & Multimedia Design in The Netherlands
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Ronnos is Ron Kok, a friendly student Communication and Multimedia Design in The Netherlands
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bergie is lives in Finland and blogs at http://bergie.iki.fi/blog/ and Midgard CMS developer
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[[User:Ronnos]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=User:Ronnos&diff=0&oldid=9789 * Ronnos * (+63)
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[[irc-people]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=irc-people&diff=0&oldid=9790 * Ronnos * (+34)
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drewinthehead is the author of hKit and a developer for Yahoo! Europe
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admins: link to Bots is incorrect in the topic .. should be http://microformats.org/wiki/irc#Bots
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- [10:15:13] <Ronnos>
any Dutch uF fans ?
- [10:21:24] <Ronnos>
... raise your hand :)
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- [10:40:21] <mfbot>
[[chat-brainstorming]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=chat-brainstorming&diff=0&oldid=9791 * Ben Ward * (+453) Using paragraphs to represent chat messages – Added references to WhatWG OL-for-dialogue discussion and Eric Meyer's blog on dialogue mark-up -
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[[chat-brainstorming]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=chat-brainstorming&diff=0&oldid=9792 * Ben Ward * (+28) Using paragraphs to represent chat messages -
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[[chat-brainstorming]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=chat-brainstorming&diff=0&oldid=9793 * Ben Ward * (+26) Using paragraphs to represent chat messages – Sorry, left off username in comment -
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McNulty is Ciaran McNulty (http://ciaranmcnulty.com)
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csarven is Sarven Capadisli and can be found online at http://www.csarven.ca
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bergie is lives in Finland and blogs at http://bergie.iki.fi/blog/ and Midgard CMS developer
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[[species-brainstorming]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=species-brainstorming&diff=0&oldid=9794 * AndyMabbett * (+252) Straw man proposal - furtehr development
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[[species-brainstorming]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=species-brainstorming&diff=0&oldid=9795 * AndyMabbett * (+108) Straw man proposal - define "rank"; offer "binomial" as altenative
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gsnedders is a 14 year old idiot from Scotland and pretends to have a website at http://geoffers.uni.cc/
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- [11:36:03] <mfbot>
[[mailing-lists]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=mailing-lists&diff=0&oldid=9796 * AndyMabbett * (-2412) move oting to own page
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[[mailing-lists-proposals proposals for a new mailing list]] N http://microformats.org/wiki/mailing-lists-proposals_proposals_for_a_new_mailing_list * AndyMabbett * (+2623) moved
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[[mailing-lists]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=mailing-lists&diff=0&oldid=9797 * AndyMabbett * (+0) |
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[[mailing-lists-proposals proposals for a new mailing list]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=mailing-lists-proposals_proposals_for_a_new_mailing_list&diff=0&oldid=0 * AndyMabbett * (+2623) mailing-lists-proposals proposals for a new mailing list moved to mailing-lists-proposals
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briansuda is brian suda of http://suda.co.uk and is at (-0000 GMT) and is author of "Using Microformats" for O'Reilly [http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/microformats/]
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[[mailing-lists-proposals]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=mailing-lists-proposals&diff=0&oldid=9798 * AndyMabbett * (+868) Comment: list for each new uF proposal
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[[mailing-lists-proposals]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=mailing-lists-proposals&diff=0&oldid=9799 * AndyMabbett * (+6) Andy Mabbett - tweak
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[[mailing-lists-proposals]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=mailing-lists-proposals&diff=0&oldid=9800 * AndyMabbett * (+1) Andy Mabbett - para break
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?def kapowaz is Ben Darlow, a web developer in London who writes stuff at http://kapowaz.net/
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kapowaz is Ben Darlow, a web developer in London who writes stuff at http://kapowaz.net/
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mmhmm.
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BenWard is Ben Ward of http://ben-ward.co.uk (+0000/+0100 GMT)
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- [12:09:31] <kapowaz>
afternoon Ben
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Hello
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bergie is lives in Finland and blogs at http://bergie.iki.fi/blog/ and Midgard CMS developer
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kingryan is ryan king
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McNulty is Ciaran McNulty (http://ciaranmcnulty.com)
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[[species-examples-regrouped]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=species-examples-regrouped&diff=0&oldid=9802 * CharlesRoper * (+641) WildRye.info -
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McNulty is Ciaran McNulty (http://ciaranmcnulty.com)
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hi
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- [17:52:18] <McNulty>
mcknut - just trying your firefox extension
- [17:52:49] <mcknut>
yeah? work for you?
- [17:53:45] <McNulty>
ehm, no
- [17:53:56] <mcknut>
bummer, it what way?
- [17:54:00] <McNulty>
I get the file (export.vcf)
- [17:54:16] <McNulty>
It has a go at importing it, but it says:
- [17:54:36] <McNulty>
"Unable to open. Object type not supported"
- [17:54:44] <mfbot>
[[mailing-lists-proposals]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=mailing-lists-proposals&diff=0&oldid=9803 * AndyMabbett * (+1) Andy Mabbett - sp.
- [17:54:48] <McNulty>
which is basically an unknown file extension error
- [17:54:49] <mcknut>
on your phone?
- [17:55:05] <mcknut>
i.e. not in addressbook
- [17:55:44] <McNulty>
Hm.
- [17:55:50] <McNulty>
On the phone
- [17:56:11] <McNulty>
I just exported a vcard from Address Book as a .vcf and sent it to the mobile, and it imported fine.
- [17:56:34] <mcknut>
right, this has been reported by someone else actually
- [17:56:45] <mcknut>
what phone you on?
- [17:56:51] <McNulty>
Nokia n70
- [17:57:04] <McNulty>
it's a series 60 phone, I'd expect lots of others in that family to have the same problem
- [17:57:58] <McNulty>
Is there a way of getting Tails Export to actually save the .vcf so I can have a look at it? It seems to auto-import into Address Book at the moment
- [17:58:05] <mcknut>
'My Nokia 6600 says unable to open message format not supported'
- [17:58:20] <mcknut>
it's in ~/Library/Caches/TemporaryItems/
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[[species-examples-regrouped]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=species-examples-regrouped&diff=0&oldid=9804 * AndyMabbett * (+286) WildRye.info -
- [17:58:46] <McNulty>
6600 is the same OS
- [17:58:54] <mcknut>
right, thought it might be
- [17:59:45] <McNulty>
I've got that open and one from Address Book next to it
- [18:00:20] <McNulty>
Both Version 3.0
- [18:00:31] <McNulty>
It's hard to see what's wrong, without knowing loads about Vcard :-/
- [18:01:09] <mcknut>
heh, well, Stuart (Colville, of muffinresearch.co.uk) told me he tried copying the content from one to the other and it still wouldn't work
- [18:01:33] <McNulty>
I'll try importing and then exporting again
- [18:01:38] <McNulty>
er, from Address Book
- [18:01:42] <mcknut>
aye
- [18:03:32] <McNulty>
hm, as an aside, there appear to be some charset issues
- [18:04:01] <McNulty>
Exporting Tantek's vCard from Tantek.com buggers up his surname when it gets to Address Book
- [18:07:34] <mcknut>
yeah, I've seen that too
- [18:07:54] <McNulty>
ok...
- [18:08:23] <McNulty>
I just got a test vcard that failed to import direct from tails, imported it into AB, exported it and sent it as a file and it imported fine
- [18:09:11] <McNulty>
hm, lots of differences
- [18:11:47] <McNulty>
What's the minimal vCard?
- [18:11:56] <McNulty>
N and FN?
- [18:12:29] <mcknut>
hmm.. possibly not even both of them, could be just fn
- [18:12:44] <McNulty>
I'm looking at the card that won't import, in vi
- [18:12:51] <McNulty>
And I've trimmed it to just N and FN
- [18:12:57] <McNulty>
and it *still* won't import
- [18:13:04] <mcknut>
where did you get tantek's from?
- [18:13:05] <McNulty>
Maybe it's a line ending issue
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tantek.com
- [18:13:17] <McNulty>
It's one of the 5 billion on that page
- [18:13:20] <mcknut>
heh
- [18:13:26] <mcknut>
(or 27 ;p)
- [18:13:51] <McNulty>
I'm currently messing around with http://test.ciaranmcnulty.com/test-vcard.php
- [18:14:08] <mcknut>
I'm trying X2V to see if that handles it any better, but I can't find his entry now
- [18:14:19] <mcknut>
ah, got it
- [18:14:44] <McNulty>
I'm trying to remember how to change line ending styles in vi
- [18:15:18] <McNulty>
It's definitely a Nokia quirk rather than a problem with your bluetooth script
- [18:15:24] <mcknut>
hmm.. I'd generally use something like dos2unix, or perl -p -i -e 's/\r/\n/g'
- [18:15:59] <mcknut>
hmm.. used X2V , pulled out his entry, imported it to addressbook and my phone without problems
- [18:16:15] <McNulty>
I don't appear to have dos2unix
- [18:16:34] <mcknut>
can you tell from hexdump what endings each files using?
- [18:16:34] <McNulty>
i was trying to compare the AB-exported card with the original from tAils, but AB appears to completely change it
- [18:16:45] <McNulty>
pass ;-)
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I just downloaded a gui hex editor to play with
- [18:17:10] <McNulty>
I'm looking at the hexdump output
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- [18:19:13] <mcknut>
actually, this program has a "compare files" thing which might be useful
- [18:19:21] <mcknut>
got too many chats going on at once tho :)
- [18:23:17] <McNulty>
changing the line endings from UNIX (\n) to windows (\r\n) in a handy text editor did the trick
- [18:23:29] <McNulty>
card imports fine now
- [18:23:42] <mcknut>
can you try using a card from X2V? that should also fail for you
- [18:23:52] <McNulty>
sure
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- [18:25:18] <McNulty>
it does indeed fail
- [18:25:23] <mcknut>
good :)
- [18:25:58] <McNulty>
heh
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- [18:26:04] <mcknut>
right, and I can see that the one output by addressbook not only has \r\n but is also unicode (I think)
- [18:26:23] <McNulty>
where's an appropriate place to document this on the wiki, I wonder
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"that one with two bytes per characters", I can't do character sets
- [18:27:19] <McNulty>
heh
- [18:27:27] <McNulty>
there isn't one that strictly fits that ;-)
- [18:27:41] <mcknut>
indeed, as far as tails export goes, I don't want to be making too many changes, it's not my extension after all, but knowing the requirements for vCards could be useful generally
- [18:27:58] <mcknut>
UTF16 I think
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wonder if the next WSG night on i12n will help me with that
- [18:30:12] <mcknut>
wherever this should go in the wiki is probably where we need to put the bit about .ics vs .vcs too (or a similar location too)
- [18:30:33] <McNulty>
There's a vcard-implementations page with a few problems noted
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[[vcard-implementations]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=vcard-implementations&diff=0&oldid=9805 * CiaranMc * (+227) Notes on Nokia phone compatibility with vcards
- [18:32:36] <McNulty>
tah dah
- [18:32:57] <tommorris>
As far as I can see, the best thing about hCard is that it isn't vCard- because vCards SUCK enormously.
- [18:33:22] <mcknut>
heh
- [18:33:24] <kingryan>
vcard is not the best documented or most interoperable format, that's for sure
- [18:33:39] <mcknut>
McNulty: dunno if you want to add your name to the list of contributors on that page
- [18:34:02] <McNulty>
yeah hopefully in future, to send a contact to someone's handset you'd send them a URL and their phone would retrieve the rest ;-)
- [18:34:06] <McNulty>
mcknut - good poin
- [18:34:30] <McNulty>
actually, maybe not
- [18:35:11] <mcknut>
yeah, microformat support on the phone itself, there's a project
- [18:36:25] * bewest thinks you'd need better web support in general
- [18:36:27] <McNulty>
vcard seems to have the problem that you need to really tailor the output format to the app you're going to import it into
- [18:36:27] <bewest>
first
- [18:36:48] <McNulty>
bewest - You can get Opera for mobiles, and it's pretty feature complete. Nokia's new browser is part based on Webkit I think
- [18:37:03] <McNulty>
it's just there's not really a way of hooking into this stuff
- [18:39:12] <bewest>
hmmm
- [18:39:24] <bewest>
well nokia's open source platform supports dbus I think
- [18:39:28] <bewest>
which is kind of neat
- [18:39:31] <bewest>
maemo stuff
- [18:41:43] <McNulty>
dbus?
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- [18:43:53] <bewest>
a way to do IPC... which means you could provide daemons on the machine to take care of certain things
- [18:44:08] <bewest>
like synchronizing calendars, events, contact info...
- [18:44:24] <bewest>
this daemon could be smart about microformats, and know how to consume and re-publish them to the web....
- [18:44:26] <kingryan>
IPC = interprocess communication
- [18:44:41] <bewest>
which means any application on the phone that wants to take advantage of that kind of information doesn't need to do all the work itself
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it can simply call out to this daemon using dbus
- [18:46:43] <McNulty>
aha
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right, got to go
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[[species]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=species&diff=0&oldid=9806 * AndyMabbett * (+209) Introduction - a remarkable co-incidence
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[[species]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=species&diff=0&oldid=9807 * AndyMabbett * (+53) Introduction - citation
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remi is Remi Prevost, a web developper (yeah, that's how we spell "developer" in french) from Quebec and blogs about web stuff at <http://remiprevost.com/>
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tantek is Tantek <http://tantek.com> and works on Technorati and develops microformats <http://microformats.org>
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drewinthehead is the author of hKit and a developer for Yahoo! Europe
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can anyone suggest a place that definitely uses relative urls in their vcard logos?
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- [19:32:26] <drewinthehead>
you'll need a lower traffic site, mcknut.
- [19:32:55] <drewinthehead>
everywhere busy will be serving images from a different domain
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I was sure someone commented on it the other day, but it might have been msn
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apparently I have no instance of the word 'relative' in my entire IM logs
- [19:34:40] * DanC just answered a "so what are microformats?" question from a reporter from http://www.internetnews.com/ , following up on the GRDDL/microformats press release http://www.w3.org/2006/10/grddl-pressrelease
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DanC, that's great!
- [19:57:51] <mcknut>
fyi, noticed a typo on the implementations wiki page - microforamt. Also the Web Essentials site seems broken, and as far as I can see, the university of bath no longer support microformats
- [19:59:03] <drewinthehead>
mcknut: it's a wiki ... :)
- [19:59:20] <drewinthehead>
feel free to fix broken stuff
- [20:00:01] <mcknut>
oh, I didn't thnk it was an open wiki
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mcknut: you'll need a UserName
- [20:00:31] <drewinthehead>
sure ... just create yourself a user name (InThisCaseStyle)
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oh, heh, saw the login link but no register link so assumed
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McKNut counts doesn't it?
- [20:01:03] <bewest>
yeah, probably
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[[species-examples-regrouped]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=species-examples-regrouped&diff=0&oldid=9808 * AndyMabbett * (-32) UK Moths - rm. empty box
- [20:02:07] <mcknut>
right, I'll get on it then
- [20:03:16] <bewest>
Andy: yeah, not sure how that happened
- [20:03:25] * bewest shrugs
- [20:04:05] * bewest just subconsciously thought it'd be handy to have an empty box... you know: just in case
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[[species]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=species&diff=0&oldid=9809 * AndyMabbett * (+9) Introduction - in full
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[[implementations]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=implementations&diff=0&oldid=9810 * McKNut * (-380) Typo fix, Uni of Bath no longer support vcard and Web Essentials is now offline
- [20:10:39] * DanC considers trying hAtom on http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/grddl-wg/
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[[press]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=press&diff=0&oldid=9811 * PaulD * (+78) October -
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[[species]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=species&diff=0&oldid=9812 * CyndyParr * (+89) Contributors -
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- [21:04:14] <cgriego>
would I be correct in assuming that parsers will simply ignore any include-patterns they cannot resolve?
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- [21:14:51] <tantek>
mcknut, instead of removing implementations that are broken/regressed, we should document them in a separate section, in the hopes that we can get them fixed
- [21:18:27] <tommorris>
Eek! include-pattern scares the living daylights out of me.
- [21:19:32] <tommorris>
Oh, wait, Drew's parser handles them. Panic over.
- [21:19:57] <drewinthehead>
(phew)
- [21:20:15] <tantek>
don't worry tom, we gut checked it with a couple of implementations
- [21:20:24] <tantek>
BrianSuda also implemented it a bit
- [21:20:32] <tantek>
enough to make sure that it wasn't too bad
- [21:21:32] <tommorris>
I think the wiki needs a page that basically contains content of the sort "if you're gonna parse microformats, here are the things you ought to get working".
- [21:21:49] <tantek>
tommorris, it depends on the microformat
- [21:22:02] <tantek>
if you want to start with hCard, there is hcard-parsing
- [21:22:33] <mcknut>
tantek: sure, er.. where? just further down the page?
- [21:24:21] <tantek>
perhaps a "Needs Fixing" section just above "Other"
- [21:24:43] <tantek>
and perhaps indicate for each one the date that it was noticed that it was broken
- [21:24:47] <tantek>
and what the problem is
- [21:25:51] <mcknut>
ok, I'll probably whack that in in a sec
- [21:26:01] <tantek>
that would be great
- [21:26:02] <tantek>
thanks!
- [21:26:32] <mcknut>
got a new version of my tails export to upload first, now works on nokia phones (line endings fixed) and my phone (changed .ics to .vcs, bit of a hack, hope it doesn't break anything)
- [21:26:50] <tantek>
wow - any idea if it will work with a blackberry?
- [21:28:02] <mcknut>
er.. no idea, but please try it out
- [21:28:06] <mcknut>
assuming you can
- [21:29:15] <mcknut>
but give me a sec to upload first
- [21:34:53] <mcknut>
http://www.johnmckerrell.com/files/tailsexport-0.3.1-jmck2.xpi
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- [22:01:21] <mfbot>
[[implementations]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=implementations&diff=0&oldid=9813 * McKNut * (+713) Added the University of Bath and Web Essentials under "Needs Fixing"
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[[implementations]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=implementations&diff=0&oldid=9814 * AndyMabbett * (-1) Restore UoB. See http://www.bath.ac.uk/person/760874
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[[implementations]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=implementations&diff=0&oldid=9815 * AndyMabbett * (-102) Restore UoB. See http://www.bath.ac.uk/person/760874
- [22:09:45] <mcknut>
oops, sorry
- [22:23:08] <tantek>
ah - but good point - it is not obvious, so that URL to a specific person should be in the implementation listing - so the same mistake isn't made again
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[[implementations]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=implementations&diff=0&oldid=9816 * Tantek * (+66) added example UoB page in order to make it more obvious where the hCard support is
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[[spread-microformats]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=spread-microformats&diff=0&oldid=9817 * Remi * (+293) +logo
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