IRC Log for #microformats on 2006-11-07

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  1. [00:01:43] <BenWard> Well, having learned my lesson that I shouldn't suggest new microformats that make me hungry in passing, I shall retire. Good night.
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  7. [00:38:12] <jibot> cbarrett is Colin Barrett and an Adium Developer and has blue hair
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  20. [01:14:59] <mfbot> [[hcard-faq-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcard-faq-fr&diff=0&oldid=10080 * ChristopheDucamp * (+760)
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  22. [01:18:40] <mfbot> [[stable-pages-fr]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=stable-pages-fr&diff=0&oldid=10081 * ChristopheDucamp * (+52) pages à synchroniser en priorité
  23. [01:19:16] <mfbot> [[stable-pages-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=stable-pages-fr&diff=0&oldid=10082 * ChristopheDucamp * (+6)
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  28. [01:31:54] <mfbot> [[hcard-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcard-fr&diff=0&oldid=10084 * ChristopheDucamp * (-4) Exemples -
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  36. [01:55:50] <mfbot> [[hreview-fr]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hreview-fr&diff=0&oldid=10085 * ChristopheDucamp * (-2) [fr:A relire dans le cadre du processus de révision de page stable]
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  38. [01:57:50] <_token> tantek should be shown a list of languages available on oficial page of wiki. If a french ou brazilian user join do "Main_Page" he just have to click in link to read in your language
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  40. [02:06:57] <mfbot> [[User talk:ChristopheDucamp]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=User_talk:ChristopheDucamp&diff=0&oldid=10086 * Token * (+79) Translation
  41. [02:07:23] <mfbot> [[User talk:ChristopheDucamp]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=User_talk:ChristopheDucamp&diff=0&oldid=10087 * Token * (+45) Translation -
  42. [02:08:54] <mfbot> [[hreview-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hreview-fr&diff=0&oldid=10088 * ChristopheDucamp * (+244) Critique produit -
  43. [02:13:30] <keri-henare> _token: i think it is like that, lower down on the Main_Page
  44. [02:13:44] <keri-henare> near the bottom
  45. [02:14:46] <_token> few persons see it
  46. [02:14:55] <_token> but, all right.
  47. [02:15:38] <tantek> perhaps we should consider moving it to the top
  48. [02:18:35] <keri-henare> or at least a small simple version at the top
  49. [02:18:54] <_token> only main_page has "other languages" available, if somebody enter in stable_page for example, he will not see.
  50. [02:19:15] <keri-henare> ah you mean on every page?
  51. [02:21:12] <tantek> _token - check out how wikipedia handles that
  52. [02:22:01] <_token> "Languages option" in left side
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  54. [02:22:55] <mfbot> [[User talk:ChristopheDucamp]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=User_talk:ChristopheDucamp&diff=0&oldid=10089 * ChristopheDucamp * (+92) zzzzz....
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  56. [02:23:22] <_token> but in own wiki, it isn't allow
  57. [02:23:31] <mfbot> [[User talk:ChristopheDucamp]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=User_talk:ChristopheDucamp&diff=0&oldid=10090 * ChristopheDucamp * (-24)
  58. [02:24:02] <mfbot> [[User talk:ChristopheDucamp]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=User_talk:ChristopheDucamp&diff=0&oldid=10091 * ChristopheDucamp * (-50) Translation -
  59. [02:25:18] <mfbot> [[page-summary-formats]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=page-summary-formats&diff=0&oldid=10092 * MykMelez * (+516) Microsummary -
  60. [02:26:04] <mfbot> [[User talk:ChristopheDucamp]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=User_talk:ChristopheDucamp&diff=0&oldid=10093 * ChristopheDucamp * (+1) Translation - theuht could perhaps help ?
  61. [02:40:41] <mfbot> [[process-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=process-fr&diff=0&oldid=10094 * ChristopheDucamp * (+40) Itération -
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  63. [02:52:13] <tantek> pnhChris, I'm going to start digging through the reams of email about class="url" to see if I can sift out real questions and answers. I can't believe something so simple has elicited such a massive volume of confusion.
  64. [02:52:18] <tantek> bbiab
  65. [02:54:20] <keri-henare> that looks like only 1 half of a conversation?
  66. [03:08:51] <wildfire> but, perhaps, the better half?
  67. [03:09:59] <keri-henare> but, i think that the meaning of life was explained in the other half?
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  72. [04:14:18] <jibot> sreynen is Scott Reynen, who makes things at makedatamakesense.com
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  74. [04:21:43] <jibot> tantek is Tantek <http://tantek.com> and works on Technorati and develops microformats <http://microformats.org>
  75. [04:22:05] <keri-henare> tantek's back, now we'll know what the other half of that conversation was
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  77. [04:24:05] <tantek> hello keri
  78. [04:24:20] <keri-henare> hey
  79. [04:24:41] <keri-henare> "pnhChris, I'm going to start digging through the reams of email about class="url" to see if I can sift out real questions and answers. I can't believe something so simple has elicited such a massive volume of confusion." was curious about that
  80. [04:26:40] <tantek> keri - are you on the mailing list?
  81. [04:28:20] <keri-henare> ah no i'm not
  82. [04:28:28] <keri-henare> never really done mailing lists
  83. [04:28:32] <tantek> that's the context of the discussion
  84. [04:29:20] <keri-henare> ah conversation across mediums, always a good way to miss most of the discussion :D
  85. [04:30:21] <tantek> you can always check the archives
  86. [04:30:37] <keri-henare> yeah :)
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  90. [04:44:30] <pnhChris> tantek: you've probably come across it by now, but it seemed to me more a discussion along the lines of "is class='url'" redundant...
  91. [04:44:39] <pnhChris> (a little behind my reading today)
  92. [04:45:42] <tantek> pnhChris, yes, note that hcard-brainstorming answered that question
  93. [04:45:53] <tantek> see rejected suggestions at the bottom of the page
  94. [05:01:09] <pnhChris> and its the 2nd item in the faq
  95. [05:02:10] <pnhChris> (though I'm running rewording / additions in my head)
  96. [05:06:39] * pnhChris growls at mediawiki
  97. [05:19:06] <mfbot> [[hcard-faq]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcard-faq&diff=0&oldid=10095 * ChrisCasciano * (+326) Why is url property necessary -
  98. [05:20:18] <pnhChris> slashdot needs to work on its tag markup
  99. [05:20:34] <pnhChris> <span class="tagname"><a href="javascript:tagsOpenAndEnter('06:11:06:2320235','haha','')">haha</a></span>
  100. [05:21:53] <_token> and if the client had disabled javascript?
  101. [05:22:37] <pnhChris> well, i'm not really sure what the point of their tags are either
  102. [05:22:59] <pnhChris> (clicking them just opens the inline add more tags dialog)
  103. [05:24:57] <pnhChris> (you have to go to a different part of the site to see the articles by tag... though it is a "beta" feature)
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  107. [05:42:18] <jibot> Cloud_ is Cloud
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  109. [05:42:20] <jibot> bergie is lives in Finland and blogs at http://bergie.iki.fi/blog/ and Midgard CMS developer
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  112. [06:09:38] <Frederic> morning
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  116. [06:31:04] <jibot> bergie is lives in Finland and blogs at http://bergie.iki.fi/blog/ and Midgard CMS developer
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  124. [07:52:16] <jibot> bengee is Benjamin Nowack (http://bnode.org/)
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  126. [07:57:39] <jibot> Cloud is http://www.johnbreslin.com/
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  129. [08:07:57] <jibot> tantek is Tantek <http://tantek.com> and works on Technorati and develops microformats <http://microformats.org>
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  134. [08:26:11] <jibot> bergie is lives in Finland and blogs at http://bergie.iki.fi/blog/ and Midgard CMS developer
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  139. [09:01:16] <jibot> trovster is a web developer from the UK who writes on http://www.trovster.com and helps with www.multipack.co.uk
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  141. [09:47:40] <kapowaz> good morning
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  143. [09:52:11] <jibot> drewinthehead is the author of hKit and a developer for Yahoo! Europe
  144. [09:52:19] <drewinthehead> mornin'
  145. [09:52:39] <kapowaz> allo
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  147. [09:57:11] <jibot> McNulty is Ciaran McNulty (http://ciaranmcnulty.com)
  148. [10:07:11] <kapowaz> this thing I was messing with yesterday is really bugging me
  149. [10:07:20] <kapowaz> the solution I came up with only works in Firefox 2
  150. [10:07:27] <kapowaz> well, possibly 1.5 as well
  151. [10:07:32] <McNulty> What thing's that
  152. [10:07:34] <kapowaz> but not IE or Safari
  153. [10:07:40] <kapowaz> the Array object's filter method
  154. [10:07:45] <kapowaz> it isn't implemented in IE7
  155. [10:07:50] <kapowaz> nor, it seems, Safari
  156. [10:07:55] <kapowaz> and definitely not in Firefox 1.0x
  157. [10:08:22] <kapowaz> it solved a thorny issue I was having, but since I can't use it I've got to try and fix it some other way
  158. [10:09:06] <drewinthehead> what thing?
  159. [10:09:19] <kapowaz> you know the getElementsByTagName method?
  160. [10:09:39] <kapowaz> it has no specificity, so you can't tell it "pull out all child nodes of a given type, but only immediate children of this node"
  161. [10:09:49] <kapowaz> it will pull out all child nodes, to the nth degree
  162. [10:10:13] <kapowaz> what I want is to retrieve a nodelist of childnodes to a given element, but only immediate children.
  163. [10:10:46] <kapowaz> I suspect that the easier way of doing it would be to abandon that method entirely and just iterate through doing some more complicated matching
  164. [10:12:04] <trovster> $('#id > tagName'); ;)
  165. [10:12:40] <kapowaz> goddammit.
  166. [10:12:49] <kapowaz> see, I *knew* I couldn't be the first person who needed to do this.
  167. [10:12:53] <kapowaz> cheers, trovster
  168. [10:13:13] <trovster> Should work, right?
  169. [10:13:23] <kapowaz> I'll just try. That's prototype, presumably?
  170. [10:13:39] <trovster> Erm, jQuery is the only one I've used, but I assume so.
  171. [10:15:37] <kapowaz> ah. doesn't seem to be in prototype.
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  173. [10:15:50] <jibot> julianstahnke is Julian Stahnke and works for last.fm and implements microformats wherever he can
  174. [10:16:45] <kapowaz> I'm not sure as jQuery and Prototype can co-exist.
  175. [10:17:25] <drewinthehead> you can give it specificity through chaining though, right?
  176. [10:17:49] <drewinthehead> document.getElementById('my-thing').getElementsByTagName('a');
  177. [10:18:13] <kapowaz> that's what I'm doing anyway
  178. [10:18:30] <kapowaz> but I'd want a third level somehow
  179. [10:18:43] <trovster> But that gets #my-thing a {} not #my-think > a {}
  180. [10:18:47] <McNulty> drewinthehead - it's more that he wants direct children of my-thing rather than all the descendants (as I understand it)
  181. [10:18:59] <kapowaz> yeah
  182. [10:19:00] <McNulty> yeah trovster said it better
  183. [10:19:18] <McNulty> kapowaz - I'm sure there's a way of running Xpaths on the DOM
  184. [10:19:55] * kapowaz is hearing that X word again
  185. [10:20:21] <cbarrett> Xar!
  186. [10:20:28] <kapowaz> no no, the other one.
  187. [10:20:35] <McNulty> XHTML?
  188. [10:20:42] <kapowaz> close, but no cigar
  189. [10:20:46] <McNulty> XFN?
  190. [10:20:50] <McNulty> The X-Men?
  191. [10:20:51] <kapowaz> that's the.... wait
  192. [10:21:09] <kapowaz> I'm worried I'm going to have a migraine today.
  193. [10:21:25] <kapowaz> I've got the same weird niggling tension in my forehead that I had last time this happened
  194. [10:23:01] <McNulty> Xpath is a way of expressing complex paths to nodes in an XML document
  195. [10:23:11] <McNulty> typically you'll run an Xpath expression and get a set of nodes back
  196. [10:24:16] <kapowaz> and this can be done with javascript?
  197. [10:24:22] <McNulty> unknown
  198. [10:24:56] <cbarrett> XOXO?
  199. [10:24:58] <cbarrett> xFolk?
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  202. [10:26:15] <trovster> http://virtuelvis.com/archives/2004/09/xpath-js is that link down?
  203. [10:27:33] <trovster> The link on that page, I mean
  204. [10:31:54] <McNulty> trovster - click it and see ;-)
  205. [10:32:10] <McNulty> times out for me, yeah
  206. [10:32:11] <trovster> I have, I get a blank page.
  207. [10:33:03] <McNulty> I get a friendly message from Firefox telling me it's fuxx0red
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  210. [10:42:07] <keri-henare> ... xylophone :)
  211. [10:50:27] <kapowaz> ~ The server at mcc.id.au is taking too long to respond. ~
  212. [10:51:47] <kapowaz> malcolm xylophone
  213. [10:51:56] <kapowaz> that was his surname, you know
  214. [10:52:03] <keri-henare> lol
  215. [10:58:40] <trovster> Is the guy who works on Tails here?
  216. [10:59:33] <beowulf_> the taxidermist?
  217. [10:59:51] <beowulf_> sorry, i'll get my coat
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  220. [11:03:25] <jibot> bergie is lives in Finland and blogs at http://bergie.iki.fi/blog/ and Midgard CMS developer
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  222. [11:28:07] <McNulty> trovster - mcknut has been recently doing Tails stuff, but he's not the original author
  223. [11:38:53] <wildfire> is there a good way to encode 'region' addresses using hCard?
  224. [11:39:09] <wildfire> i.e. for this region (Europe) use this email address, for other regions, use this other one
  225. [11:39:26] <McNulty> wildfire - not really, the email TYPE field is very limited
  226. [11:39:39] <McNulty> Separate cards could be an idea?
  227. [11:40:06] <wildfire> http://www.awayphone.com/contact/ has an initial cut on our hCard (I realise it has an ugly table)
  228. [11:40:41] <McNulty> that does look a little like two hCards...
  229. [11:40:51] <McNulty> beacuse I presume the address is different too?
  230. [11:41:06] <McNulty> oh, probably not
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  232. [11:41:11] <jibot> csarven is Sarven Capadisli and can be found online at http://www.csarven.ca
  233. [11:41:30] <McNulty> wildfire - I'd make the second one a separate hCard and then include in the shared details.
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  236. [12:04:38] <jibot> Phae is Frances Berriman of http://www.fberriman.com/
  237. [12:12:20] <wildfire> McNulty, sorry; so a seperate hCard just for 'North America', which those details on it?
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  239. [12:12:24] <jibot> drewinthehead is the author of hKit and a developer for Yahoo! Europe
  240. [12:12:45] <Frederic> Do you people have examples of social networks using microformats ?
  241. [12:13:11] <Frederic> I need some examples for my Using mycroformats to increase data effectiveness on social networks talk next saturday
  242. [12:14:25] <wildfire> Frederic, linkedin uses hCard for its 'contacts'
  243. [12:14:33] <Frederic> wow, cool
  244. [12:14:39] <Frederic> I think I'm on linkedin
  245. [12:15:08] <Frederic> btw, if there are people in Paris next saturday, there's a barcamp at Google's
  246. [12:16:09] <McNulty> wildfire - yeah, basically
  247. [12:16:20] <McNulty> but you could copy the address using the include pattern
  248. [12:18:01] <wildfire> McNulty, thanks - I wasn't aware of that pattern, looking it up now
  249. [12:18:30] <Phae> Frederic; The implementations page has a fiarly good catalogue of "big" people that use microformats. You'll probably find more examples of what you're looking for there. http://microformats.org/wiki/implementations
  250. [12:18:35] <Phae> fairly*
  251. [12:18:36] <McNulty> microformats.org/wiki/include-pattern
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  253. [12:21:34] <Frederic> Phae: yeah, ddidn't think about that page
  254. [12:21:39] * Frederic hates wikis
  255. [12:21:56] <Phae> S'cool. That's why I thought I'd mention it. Saves you looking for it!
  256. [12:22:29] * keri-henare loves kiwis
  257. [12:22:44] <McNulty> keri-henare - the fruits, the birds, or the people?
  258. [12:23:00] <keri-henare> all of the above
  259. [12:24:13] <keri-henare> i may even be the only kiwi microformats fanboy
  260. [12:24:41] <Phae> nah! I know a kiwi who well.. he tolerates my talking about microformats and is putting them into a project of his
  261. [12:24:58] <Phae> I guess he's not a "fanboy".
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  263. [12:34:47] <mfbot> [[hcard-faq-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcard-faq-fr&diff=0&oldid=10096 * ChristopheDucamp * (+430)
  264. [12:41:04] <wildfire> Frederic, another site is IBM Staff directory - the output information is in hCard
  265. [12:41:50] <Frederic> wildfire: sounnds nice, but I'm more looking for sites like orkut, linkedin, openbc, viaduc...
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  273. [13:02:31] <jibot> gsnedders is a 14 year old idiot from Scotland and pretends to have a website at http://geoffers.uni.cc/
  274. [13:03:07] <keri-henare> Phae: Who's this?
  275. [13:03:21] <Phae> What what?
  276. [13:04:17] <keri-henare> "nah! I know a kiwi who well.. he tolerates my talking about microformats and is putting them into a project of his"
  277. [13:04:29] <Phae> Oh. Rob Mckinnon?#
  278. [13:04:35] <Phae> Minus the #
  279. [13:05:01] <keri-henare> No #, but the question marks are popular in names today
  280. [13:05:24] <Phae> It was a question mark to query if you knew him. He's in the UK these days.
  281. [13:06:05] <keri-henare> that's where we all go for a while
  282. [13:06:11] <Phae> heh
  283. [13:06:17] <keri-henare> i'm going there to live for a while this friday in fact
  284. [13:06:28] <Phae> For work or holiday?
  285. [13:06:33] <Phae> oh
  286. [13:06:39] <Phae> I skipped the "to live"
  287. [13:06:46] <Phae> For how long, then?
  288. [13:07:27] <keri-henare> until I can drag my girlfriend home with me :D she finishes her Masters in May so around then
  289. [13:07:47] <keri-henare> I don't know this Rob Mckinnon, but I like his style
  290. [13:07:49] <Phae> ah
  291. [13:08:28] <keri-henare> so i fly into manchester sat morning
  292. [13:08:49] <Phae> Where abouts in the UK will you be living?
  293. [13:08:59] <keri-henare> Preston, Lancashire
  294. [13:09:07] <Phae> I see
  295. [13:09:31] <keri-henare> yeah, so basically nowhere. especially in terms of IT
  296. [13:10:09] <Phae> I can't say Preston strikes me as a hub of activity
  297. [13:10:15] <Phae> but then, I live just outside london these days
  298. [13:10:56] <keri-henare> aren't the only people who don't live just outside london the people who live just inside london
  299. [13:11:15] <Phae> uhm, no?
  300. [13:11:21] <keri-henare> and the rest of the UK looks like 28 days later after the infected die offf
  301. [13:11:23] <keri-henare> :D
  302. [13:11:31] <Phae> right now, I'm visiting my parents, which is 6 hours fromn london. they're definitely not "just outside"
  303. [13:11:38] <Phae> heh
  304. [13:11:39] <Phae> yeah
  305. [13:11:41] <Phae> that's about right
  306. [13:12:16] <keri-henare> nah I worked at a camp in the USA this summer so now I have friends all over the UK, except northern ireland
  307. [13:12:22] <Phae> you should make sure to drop in on london :) plenty of events go on there you'd probably like, as a microformat fanboy
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  309. [13:12:27] <jibot> remi is Remi Prevost, a web developper (yeah, that's how we spell "developer" in french) from Quebec and blogs about web stuff at <http://remiprevost.com/>
  310. [13:12:51] <keri-henare> @media is on the list if I can save a few pound :D
  311. [13:13:08] <Phae> I meant smaller events than that, but yeah, that's one
  312. [13:13:16] <Phae> get on upcoming.org, if you're not already
  313. [13:13:45] <keri-henare> yeah i'll have to look into it. have to find a job first, then i can work out when i'm free
  314. [13:13:56] <Phae> ah :)
  315. [13:14:01] <Phae> well, good luck with that!
  316. [13:15:15] <McNulty> We're hiring, but we're in London
  317. [13:15:38] <trovster> come to Birmingham ;)
  318. [13:16:00] <McNulty> Yeah Birmingham's ace.
  319. [13:16:39] <McNulty> The glory of the rotunda... the melted pink fibre glass sculptures, the rickety ferris wheel
  320. [13:17:32] <trovster> heh
  321. [13:17:53] <McNulty> http://www.birminghamitsnotshit.co.uk/
  322. [13:18:31] <trovster> heh, birmingham is a bit shit, though
  323. [13:22:02] <McNulty> It's better than Coventry at least
  324. [13:22:53] <trovster> Hell yes...
  325. [13:22:54] <keri-henare> lol
  326. [13:22:58] <trovster> Are you from there, then?
  327. [13:23:05] <McNulty> I'm from Stourbridge
  328. [13:23:10] <trovster> there* -> the area
  329. [13:23:11] <keri-henare> I have to stay in Preston with my girlfriend
  330. [13:23:11] <trovster> Oh ok
  331. [13:23:34] <kapowaz> Birmingham is *not* better than Coventry!
  332. [13:23:36] <kapowaz> how dare you!
  333. [13:23:43] <kapowaz> how, how dare you?
  334. [13:23:48] <trovster> It clearly is.
  335. [13:23:56] <trovster> Coventry is utter-shite
  336. [13:24:05] <McNulty> Oh come on, there's a reason 'sending someone to Coventry' involves deathly boring silence
  337. [13:24:21] <McNulty> My God this is amazing http://www.birminghamitsnotshit.co.uk/
  338. [13:24:37] <kapowaz> the origin of the term was because of the state of the city after it was bombed to pieces in the second world war
  339. [13:24:42] <McNulty> er http://www.jonbounds.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/jon/brum/kojak/
  340. [13:24:50] <kapowaz> Coventry is far nicer than Brum
  341. [13:24:57] <trovster> Lies
  342. [13:25:02] <kapowaz> truth.
  343. [13:25:10] <trovster> Are you from Coventry?
  344. [13:25:14] <kapowaz> maybe.
  345. [13:25:20] <trovster> Sorry.
  346. [13:25:35] <McNulty> You poor man
  347. [13:25:36] <trovster> Which part? Highfields ;)
  348. [13:25:41] <Phae> He's from Coventry probably in the same way he lives in Richmond.
  349. [13:25:45] <kapowaz> it's "Hillfields"
  350. [13:25:46] * Phae smiles.
  351. [13:25:51] * kapowaz narrows eyes
  352. [13:25:58] <kapowaz> I grew up in Earlsdon
  353. [13:26:00] <McNulty> Do you live in Hounslow?
  354. [13:26:05] <kapowaz> no.
  355. [13:26:06] <kapowaz> no no no.
  356. [13:26:08] <trovster> Heh, I get highfield, hillfields confused, coz it's where I live now
  357. [13:26:23] <kapowaz> Hillfields is an utter dump, granted.
  358. [13:26:29] <trovster> Earlsdon is probably the best part...
  359. [13:26:30] <kapowaz> and Coventry is not without its share of cesspits
  360. [13:26:46] <kapowaz> it's a nicer area, yeah
  361. [13:27:15] <trovster> I'm from, er, Kenilworth ;)
  362. [13:27:23] <kapowaz> it's on the south-west of the city, in good reach of the Memorial Park and nice cycle routes out towards Kenilworth
  363. [13:27:27] <keri-henare> allow me to amp up this conversation with a simple "New Zealand > United Kingdom" that is all :D
  364. [13:27:36] <kapowaz> Kenilworth is quite nice. Very quaint.
  365. [13:27:43] <Phae> This is so off-topic.
  366. [13:27:51] <keri-henare> no
  367. [13:27:53] <kapowaz> was there anybody talking *on*-topic?
  368. [13:28:05] <trovster> kapowaz: pm?
  369. [13:28:10] <keri-henare> we're talking about hCard adr values
  370. [13:28:18] <kapowaz> hmm?
  371. [13:28:21] <Phae> I feel bad filling a logged channel with off-topic stuff. Occassionally people try to find useful info amongst the witter.
  372. [13:28:24] <kapowaz> I didn't receive one.
  373. [13:28:51] <kapowaz> s'true. but there's always find...
  374. [13:29:02] <keri-henare> Phae: in that case I really made their search hard by mentioning 'hCard adr'
  375. [13:29:12] <McNulty> XFN
  376. [13:29:12] <Phae> Quite.
  377. [13:29:19] <keri-henare> lolz
  378. [13:30:25] <keri-henare> anyone seen Kevin Lawver's microformats presentation?
  379. [13:31:30] <kapowaz> xylophone.
  380. [13:36:15] <kapowaz> see, now we're not talking about how ace Coventry is, nobody's even talking at all!
  381. [13:36:20] <kapowaz> for shame.
  382. [13:37:58] <keri-henare> i just realised that i've been confusing kapowaz with powazek
  383. [13:39:27] <trovster> It's like your mother said. If you've got nothing good to say (about Coventry) don't say anything at all...
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  385. [13:39:51] <trovster> Quick, catch him
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  387. [13:39:59] <jibot> bergie is lives in Finland and blogs at http://bergie.iki.fi/blog/ and Midgard CMS developer
  388. [13:40:21] <kapowaz> heh
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  390. [13:40:43] <kapowaz> I have noticed with interest the similarities between my chosen pseudonym and Derek Powazek's surname
  391. [13:41:09] <kapowaz> one letter away from a perfect anagram
  392. [13:41:16] <keri-henare> :)
  393. [13:41:30] <kapowaz> it's pure coincidence too. 'kapowaz' is (apparently) a Polish word.
  394. [13:42:03] <McNulty> from where does your usage derive?
  395. [13:44:41] <kapowaz> an old schoolfriend invented a character called 'Dr Kapowaz' for rhymes and stuff
  396. [13:45:08] <kapowaz> so when I needed an online nickname I chose that
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  402. [14:05:09] <keri-henare> tantek: When is Brian Suda usually in here?
  403. [14:05:37] <Phae> Brian is a couple hours behind GMT I think.
  404. [14:06:14] <Phae> I see him in the evenings (my evenings).
  405. [14:06:25] <keri-henare> ah ok
  406. [14:06:29] <kapowaz> he's usually here during the day too...
  407. [14:06:32] <keri-henare> maybe after i wake up then
  408. [14:06:34] <Phae> Sometimes, yeah
  409. [14:06:50] <kapowaz> IE7: whitespace bugs!
  410. [14:07:03] <keri-henare> lol
  411. [14:07:10] <kapowaz> a div wrapping an image will display a visible gap if the div is closed on its own line
  412. [14:07:20] <kapowaz> well done Microsoft!
  413. [14:07:23] <kapowaz> party like it's 1997!
  414. [14:07:29] <keri-henare> where's the gap? underneath?
  415. [14:07:49] <kapowaz> yes
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  417. [14:08:30] <keri-henare> you mean <div>\n<img />\n</div> as opposed to <div><img /></div> correct?
  418. [14:08:49] <kapowaz> yes
  419. [14:08:59] * kapowaz is just slapping together a testcase
  420. [14:09:47] <keri-henare> why is it IE that always wants to render a newline in whitespace for no reason
  421. [14:10:09] <keri-henare> wasn't there similiar issues in ie6?
  422. [14:10:26] <kapowaz> there seems to be something else making it happen
  423. [14:10:33] <kapowaz> because a simple testcase isn't triggering the bug
  424. [14:10:48] <drewinthehead> http://www.google.com/search?q=ie%20gap%20below%20image
  425. [14:11:18] <drewinthehead> there are also lots of places to get help debugging html and css.
  426. [14:11:27] <kapowaz> oh you fool.
  427. [14:11:32] * kapowaz was testing the testcase in Firefox
  428. [14:11:35] * kapowaz blushes
  429. [14:12:10] <keri-henare> hahahahahaha
  430. [14:12:49] <kapowaz> alright, it's not at all microformats-related, so I'll investigate it quietly. still bloody annoying that it's there in IE7...
  431. [14:13:00] * keri-henare runs Acid2 in Opera. Oooh look IE7 passes Acid2
  432. [14:13:59] <keri-henare> thank god for that age old rule, if it works in one browser, it works in 'em all :D
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  434. [14:14:54] <keri-henare> i do that all the time with local and remote copies of code. keep editing the local version and not the remote and wondering why there's no change when I hit refresh
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  438. [14:28:42] <jibot> sreynen is Scott Reynen, who makes things at makedatamakesense.com
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  444. [14:57:46] <kapowaz> hmm, anyone seen this? http://www.mozilla.org/projects/tamarin/
  445. [14:58:03] <McNulty> just reading about it on /.
  446. [14:58:07] <kapowaz> same
  447. [14:58:36] <kapowaz> "Go open source go! This is great news for us Linux geeks. :)"
  448. [14:58:38] <kapowaz> er...
  449. [14:58:51] * kapowaz wonders if there is a clue shortage
  450. [14:59:13] <McNulty> It's good to see closer convergence between different ECMAScript engines
  451. [14:59:35] <kapowaz> will it actually make any difference in terms of featureset though?
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  453. [14:59:44] <jibot> danja is Danny Ayers, http://dannyayers.com
  454. [14:59:45] <kapowaz> presumably it's more to do with implementational details
  455. [15:00:03] <McNulty> Well, if they get it going supporting 4th edition it'll be good
  456. [15:00:22] <McNulty> because it's pooling the talents of the browser engine folk and the flash folk
  457. [15:00:47] <kapowaz> heresy!
  458. [15:01:14] <McNulty> classes!
  459. [15:01:16] <kapowaz> jesus, slashdot comments depress me
  460. [15:01:17] <McNulty> cor
  461. [15:01:25] <kapowaz> "I'm not a huge fan of Flash in general. It is too much like FrontPage..."
  462. [15:01:28] <McNulty> Yeah I don't read them anymore
  463. [15:01:39] <kapowaz> a.) dull, off-topic unsolicited personal opinion
  464. [15:01:41] <kapowaz> b.) wtf?!
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  466. [15:03:13] <kapowaz> http://developers.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=205219&cid=16751209
  467. [15:03:19] <kapowaz> what is that, a haiku?
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  475. [15:38:00] * drewinthehead needs a stand-alone drop-in javascript parser
  476. [15:39:28] <kapowaz> parser as in an interpreter?
  477. [15:39:48] <drewinthehead> it's utterly tedious doing this by hand every time ... find an element with class 'email' .. check if it's a link, check if the href is a mailto, check the title, check the node value ...argh
  478. [15:40:16] <drewinthehead> a microformats parser, kapowaz :)
  479. [15:40:24] <drewinthehead> for extracting values from the DOM
  480. [15:40:57] <drewinthehead> without a dependancy on things like jquery
  481. [15:41:51] <kapowaz> I see.
  482. [15:42:09] <kapowaz> a standalone microformats parser written in javascript.
  483. [15:42:20] <kapowaz> why can't it use things like jquery? licensing?
  484. [15:42:59] <davecardwell> it's a lot to load to just do simple parsing
  485. [15:43:24] <davecardwell> and is a single point-of-failure if the site hosting the jquery library is down
  486. [15:46:27] <drewinthehead> yeah, it's impractical to ask people to depend on jquery
  487. [15:46:45] <drewinthehead> what if you're already using one of the other libraries for everything else?
  488. [15:46:57] <drewinthehead> worst case, you could get clashes
  489. [15:48:20] <trovster> Yup, already got clashes with the Multipack site
  490. [15:48:55] <_psychic__> kapowaz: what exactly is tamarin supposed to be? I can't tell if this is an effort to get more standardized scripting, or to advance the technology itself...
  491. [15:49:23] <drewinthehead> i've just written like 30 lines of code to do the implied-n optimisation for extracting a name from an hcard. i shouldn't need to write that.
  492. [15:53:02] <McNulty> _psychic__ - it's the ECMAscript engine from Flash, donated to Mozilla
  493. [15:53:23] <McNulty> It has the potential to be a JIT compiled Javascript library for the Mozilla browsers
  494. [15:53:32] <McNulty> which would speed up JS and introduce a lot of new features
  495. [15:55:53] <_psychic__> new feature that adhere to the ECMA standard... ?
  496. [15:57:38] <McNulty> well Javascript, Actionscript and Microsoft's JScript all adhere roughly to ECMAscript v3
  497. [15:58:01] <_psychic__> I think *roughly* is the problem.
  498. [15:58:01] <McNulty> This has some v4 features and the plan is to make it support all the v4 stuff
  499. [15:58:18] <McNulty> which is things like classes, public/private methods... other nice stuff
  500. [15:58:25] <McNulty> They're all very similar, scripting-wise
  501. [15:58:49] <_psychic__> thanks for the insight
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  503. [16:06:10] <kapowaz> McNulty filled in for me whilst I was away :)
  504. [16:06:32] <kapowaz> so yes, basically one of the things about Mozilla's browsers that sucks is the JavaScript interpreter
  505. [16:06:40] <kapowaz> it's very slow compared to other browsers
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  507. [16:11:30] <Whiskey_M> 'lo
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  518. [16:52:31] <jibot> Charl is Charl van Niekerk and writes about standards at http://standards.za.net/
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  524. [17:15:40] <jibot> cgriego is Chris Griego (-06:00) and a front-end architect with rd2inc.com
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  528. [17:29:24] <jibot> mlinksva is Mike Linksvayer and from Creative Commons
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  530. [17:37:20] <kapowaz> I know this isn't very microformatty, but what image replacement techniques are being advocated for IE7-compliance nowadays?
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  532. [17:39:22] <trovster> I'd use Phark.
  533. [17:39:43] <tantek> Is Siegried around here by any chance?
  534. [17:40:08] <tantek> I'm wondering if we can clear up any confusion regarding the "url" property of hCard (and hCalendar, and hReview etc.)
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  540. [17:54:36] <jibot> Ragdoll is Justin McDowell (http://www.deadringerart.com). He works for the National Arbor Day Foundation as a multimedia designer.
  541. [17:55:22] <abscond> http://adactio.com/extras/stream/ < would adactio's stream be a candidate for hcalendar or would it only be future group events?
  542. [17:56:10] <abscond> wait only just noticed he has hcalendered it
  543. [17:56:28] <abscond> why would I doubt?
  544. [17:56:41] <Ragdoll> heh
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  547. [18:02:07] <trovster> He should use hAtom, too
  548. [18:02:55] <kapowaz> atom. heh.
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  550. [18:14:10] <trovster> first use of export to gCal from Tails :) yey
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  552. [18:17:45] <mfbot> [[microforamts]] MN http://microformats.org/wiki/microforamts * Tantek * (+26)
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  554. [18:28:14] <jibot> ryanlowe is Ryan Lowe, http://www.fanconcert.com
  555. [18:34:01] <Frederic> re
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  574. [19:52:36] <jibot> tantek is Tantek <http://tantek.com> and works on Technorati and develops microformats <http://microformats.org>
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  590. [20:46:12] <McNulty> mcknut - did you say you'd updated the tails export lately?
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