IRC Log for #microformats on 2006-12-12
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- [00:08:35] <veeliam>
i think you ought to revisit the markup in your hCard
- [00:09:02] <veeliam>
but what i can't seem to find is maybe the image needs an absolute path and not a relative path.
- [00:09:15] <csarven>
i can certainly try that
- [00:09:42] <csarven>
veeliam++
- [00:09:47] <csarven>
and of course you would be right :)
- [00:09:51] <csarven>
thank you
- [00:10:10] <veeliam>
no. thank you.
- [00:10:37] <csarven>
certainly something to keep in mind in the future
- [00:10:47] <veeliam>
csarven, yep. it's working for you
- [00:10:55] <csarven>
which makes sense.. the photo won't be much of a relative path use in a vcard
- [00:11:02] <veeliam>
exactly.
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- [00:22:47] <jibot>
tantek is Tantek <http://tantek.com> and works on Technorati and develops microformats <http://microformats.org>
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- [00:29:10] <csarven>
haven't found a relationship yet, however im guessing that OAI (openarchives.org) would be interested in MFs?
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ryanlowe is Ryan Lowe, http://www.fanconcert.com
- [00:30:37] <mfbot>
[[Special:Log/block]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=Special:Log/block&diff=0&oldid=0 * Tantek * (+0) blocked "User:MarBry" with an expiry time of infinite: spam
- [00:32:42] <csarven>
veeliam: tantek uses a relative path in his hcard logo and it works fine
- [00:33:04] <veeliam>
who's that?
- [00:33:12] <veeliam>
;-)
- [00:33:18] <veeliam>
i mean where's that?
- [00:33:23] <Azathoth>
good morning everybody
- [00:33:41] <csarven>
veeliam www.tantek.com
- [00:35:14] <veeliam>
yes. you're right csarven
- [00:35:24] <veeliam>
then i don't know what crack pipe i'm smoking
- [00:36:08] <veeliam>
tantek? anyone?
- [00:37:23] <csarven>
veeliam aha! i think i may have found the reason
- [00:37:54] <veeliam>
icon and not photo, right?
- [00:38:07] <csarven>
if the `base` element is present then an absolute path is required, otherwise relative works as well
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sreynen is Scott Reynen, who makes things at makedatamakesense.com
- [00:42:02] <csarven>
veeliam okay this is it. if base ends with a trailing slash value then relative path is okay for hcard image
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- [00:46:44] <veeliam>
csarven, are you talking about <base href=.....
- [00:47:28] <csarven>
yes
- [00:49:58] <veeliam>
ok, but that'll only be relevant from your website.
- [00:50:22] <veeliam>
the other example you gave doesn't have that element
- [00:51:46] <veeliam>
the difference between his hcard and yours is that he uses a class of logo whereas you are using the class of photo for the image
- [00:52:03] <csarven>
right however if `base` is not present then HTTP_REFERER resolves in the default value
- [00:52:03] <veeliam>
his: <img src="icon80px.jpg" class="logo" alt="" />
- [00:52:13] <veeliam>
you: <img src="media/images/csarvenWLGreen.jpg" class="photo" alt="Waking Life like image" width="116" height="102"/>
- [00:52:23] <veeliam>
ok.
- [00:52:26] <csarven>
i dont think the difference is between logo/photo. ive tried changing that before
- [00:52:46] <csarven>
when base is present it overriddes the HTTP_REFERER value
- [00:53:22] <veeliam>
ok. but if you want that i or someone else to import your hcard into my address book or contact list, i'm not sure if the photo will show up.
- [00:53:23] <veeliam>
no?
- [00:57:04] <csarven>
veeliam i suppose logo/photo is not retrieved even. see http://feeds.technorati.com/contact
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[[course-catalog-examples]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=course-catalog-examples&diff=0&oldid=11255 * JesseRodgers * (+302) Microformats in Education: Course Catalog -
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chimezie is Chimezie Ogbuji - He is a mammal
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bergie is lives in Finland and blogs at http://bergie.iki.fi/blog/ and Midgard CMS developer
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mlinksva is Mike Linksvayer and from Creative Commons
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tantek is Tantek <http://tantek.com> and works on Technorati and develops microformats <http://microformats.org>
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bengee is Benjamin Nowack (http://bnode.org/)
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[[page-summary-formats]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=page-summary-formats&diff=0&oldid=11256 * JoeLaPoutre * (+119) Code -
- [08:36:57] <mfbot>
[[User:JoeLaPoutre]] N http://microformats.org/wiki/User:JoeLaPoutre * JoeLaPoutre * (+23)
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trovster is a web developer from the UK who writes on http://www.trovster.com and helps with www.multipack.co.uk
- [09:09:45] <KevinMarks>
http://www.voiceoftech.com/swhitley/index.php/?p=159
- [09:09:55] <KevinMarks>
do we have a rel="troll" ?
- [09:19:32] <veeliam>
KevinMarks, I think he's retarded.
- [09:19:52] <veeliam>
it's a mental handicap thing
- [09:20:20] <bengee>
heh, if that's really the html he produces for his clients/projects, then microformats clearly aren't an option for him ;)
- [09:20:39] <veeliam>
I would reccomend rel="mentally challanged"
- [09:20:55] <KevinMarks>
well, he seems to be saying "I can't be trusted to make good html, so I'll go away and make up my own xml"
- [09:21:17] <KevinMarks>
which is fair enough, I don't see why we should have to read it
- [09:22:13] <veeliam>
well, how did you find out about that post?
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- [09:32:05] <pengo>
hello
- [09:32:12] <KevinMarks>
it showed up in my technorati feed for my name
- [09:32:20] <veeliam>
of course
- [09:32:37] <KevinMarks>
which tantek just polluted by pinging my twitter page
- [09:32:37] <veeliam>
hello pengo
- [09:33:26] <veeliam>
that's nice.
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bergie is lives in Finland and blogs at http://bergie.iki.fi/blog/ and Midgard CMS developer
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julianstahnke is Julian Stahnke and works for last.fm and implements microformats wherever he can
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Cloud_ is Cloud
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?help
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?herald
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Stopped heralding
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[[criticism]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=criticism&diff=0&oldid=11257 * AndyMabbett * (+151) Committing An Act of hEresy - Part I
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danah live at leweb3
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for xfn fans
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- [14:23:41] <mkaply>
Are n in hCard and adr in hCard containing elements only? That is, I should never need to reference n.textContent or adr.textContent? adr and n should always have subelements
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[[mailing-lists]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=mailing-lists&diff=0&oldid=11258 * AndyMabbett * (+169) general guidelines - reply to questions
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[[mailing-lists]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=mailing-lists&diff=0&oldid=11259 * Tantek * (+564) Reverted edit of AndyMabbett, changed back to last version by Tantek
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Note that the deadline for submitting proposals for XTech 2007 in Paris is December 15
- [15:19:04] <malware>
http://xtech.expectnation.com/event/1/public/cfp/1
- [15:19:33] <malware>
more complete list of track descriptions here:
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http://xtech.expectnation.com/event/1/public/content/tracks
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microformats are explicitly listed as being a suitable topic for the "browser technologies" track
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[[mailing-lists]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=mailing-lists&diff=0&oldid=11260 * Tantek * (+148) note overall goals of guidelines, increase signal, decrease noise
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[[mailing-lists]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=mailing-lists&diff=0&oldid=11261 * AndyMabbett * (-491) increase the "signal to noise" ration on the list.
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[[mailing-lists]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=mailing-lists&diff=0&oldid=11262 * Tantek * (+491) Reverted edit of AndyMabbett, changed back to last version by Tantek
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[[mailing-lists]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=mailing-lists&diff=0&oldid=11263 * Tantek * (+133) please post suggestions for general mailing list guidelines to the list for list-admins to consider
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[[mailing-lists]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=mailing-lists&diff=0&oldid=11264 * Tantek * (+20)
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[[mailing-lists]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=mailing-lists&diff=0&oldid=11265 * Tantek * (+1) typo
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[[rest/description]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=rest/description&diff=0&oldid=11266 * DrErnie * (+91) Proposals/Examples - WADL
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Good evening all
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- [20:44:08] <kingryan>
hi ben
- [20:45:25] <BenWard>
I swear every time I sign in now there's an extra admin in here… clearly we're getting too rowdy…
- [20:45:48] <kingryan>
I'm building up a posse
- [20:46:39] <gsnedders>
the war has begun!
- [20:47:04] <BenWard>
A posse is always good to have
- [20:48:36] <BenWard>
You need the kind who just silently stand around you and look intimidating though; anyone too vocal might make it look like a democracy.
- [20:49:23] <Tene>
So who's the enemy?
- [20:49:48] <gsnedders>
me!
- [20:49:49] <gsnedders>
choose me!
- [20:50:00] <kingryan>
the scottish!
- [20:51:12] <gsnedders>
kingryan: was that random?
- [20:51:15] <kingryan>
no
- [20:51:30] <kingryan>
gsnedders: you're scottish, right?
- [20:51:44] <Phae>
heh
- [20:51:52] <gsnedders>
kingryan: I count myself as English, despite having been born and lived in Scotland my whole life
- [20:52:01] <kingryan>
ah, nevermind
- [20:52:03] <gsnedders>
kingryan: how do you know, anyway?
- [20:52:26] <kingryan>
?whois gsnedders
- [20:52:27] <jibot>
gsnedders is a 14 year old idiot from Scotland and pretends to have a website at http://geoffers.uni.cc/
- [20:52:29] <Phae>
don't you say it?
- [20:52:32] <Phae>
ah yeah. there.
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- [20:52:36] <Phae>
heh
- [20:52:46] <gsnedders>
don't. forget. the. obvious.
- [20:56:23] <kingryan>
anyway, about the growth of the admins...
- [20:56:39] * Phae glances.
- [20:56:46] <kingryan>
I'm just trying to unSPOF tantek and myself
- [20:57:01] <kingryan>
(Single Point of Failure)
- [20:57:10] <Phae>
(i.e. spread the blame)
- [20:57:33] * Phae kids.
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- [20:57:42] * gsnedders always kids, due to his age.
- [20:57:53] <kingryan>
plausible deniability: "It was Phae's idea, I swear!"
- [20:58:00] <Phae>
quite.
- [20:58:22] <Phae>
but in all seriousness, for some silly reason tantek and ryan are busy sometimes... so it's helpful if there's other bodies about that can undo mistakes etc.
- [20:58:37] <tantek>
revert damage to the wiki, block spammers etc.
- [20:58:44] <Phae>
z'ackly
- [20:58:59] * kingryan doesn't want to revert wiki spam in the middle of the night
- [20:59:23] <bewest>
Hakon had an interesting point regarding usage of the term microformat
- [20:59:59] * kingryan has finished his masters' degree, he no longer fights spam in the middle of the night :D
- [21:00:13] <Phae>
congrats!
- [21:00:19] <gsnedders>
kingryan: a masters' in fighting spam?
- [21:00:37] <kingryan>
no, cat herding
- [21:04:00] <bewest>
kingryan: congrats!
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- [21:12:12] <BenWard>
Seems like a good move with the adminship. And on the subject of blame, I intend to get <del>This</del><ins>Last</ins> Week in Microformats written up shortly.
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[[rest/description]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=rest/description&diff=0&oldid=11267 * DrErnie * (+115) Proposals/Examples - introspection
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tantek is Tantek <http://tantek.com> and works on Technorati and develops microformats <http://microformats.org>
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bergie is lives in Finland and blogs at http://bergie.iki.fi/blog/ and Midgard CMS developer
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