IRC Log for #microformats on 2006-12-12

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  1. [00:08:35] <veeliam> i think you ought to revisit the markup in your hCard
  2. [00:09:02] <veeliam> but what i can't seem to find is maybe the image needs an absolute path and not a relative path.
  3. [00:09:15] <csarven> i can certainly try that
  4. [00:09:42] <csarven> veeliam++
  5. [00:09:47] <csarven> and of course you would be right :)
  6. [00:09:51] <csarven> thank you
  7. [00:10:10] <veeliam> no. thank you.
  8. [00:10:37] <csarven> certainly something to keep in mind in the future
  9. [00:10:47] <veeliam> csarven, yep. it's working for you
  10. [00:10:55] <csarven> which makes sense.. the photo won't be much of a relative path use in a vcard
  11. [00:11:02] <veeliam> exactly.
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  14. [00:22:47] <jibot> tantek is Tantek <http://tantek.com> and works on Technorati and develops microformats <http://microformats.org>
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  17. [00:29:10] <csarven> haven't found a relationship yet, however im guessing that OAI (openarchives.org) would be interested in MFs?
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  21. [00:30:37] <mfbot> [[Special:Log/block]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=Special:Log/block&diff=0&oldid=0 * Tantek * (+0) blocked "User:MarBry" with an expiry time of infinite: spam
  22. [00:32:42] <csarven> veeliam: tantek uses a relative path in his hcard logo and it works fine
  23. [00:33:04] <veeliam> who's that?
  24. [00:33:12] <veeliam> ;-)
  25. [00:33:18] <veeliam> i mean where's that?
  26. [00:33:23] <Azathoth> good morning everybody
  27. [00:33:41] <csarven> veeliam www.tantek.com
  28. [00:35:14] <veeliam> yes. you're right csarven
  29. [00:35:24] <veeliam> then i don't know what crack pipe i'm smoking
  30. [00:36:08] <veeliam> tantek? anyone?
  31. [00:37:23] <csarven> veeliam aha! i think i may have found the reason
  32. [00:37:54] <veeliam> icon and not photo, right?
  33. [00:38:07] <csarven> if the `base` element is present then an absolute path is required, otherwise relative works as well
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  35. [00:40:09] <jibot> sreynen is Scott Reynen, who makes things at makedatamakesense.com
  36. [00:42:02] <csarven> veeliam okay this is it. if base ends with a trailing slash value then relative path is okay for hcard image
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  40. [00:46:44] <veeliam> csarven, are you talking about <base href=.....
  41. [00:47:28] <csarven> yes
  42. [00:49:58] <veeliam> ok, but that'll only be relevant from your website.
  43. [00:50:22] <veeliam> the other example you gave doesn't have that element
  44. [00:51:46] <veeliam> the difference between his hcard and yours is that he uses a class of logo whereas you are using the class of photo for the image
  45. [00:52:03] <csarven> right however if `base` is not present then HTTP_REFERER resolves in the default value
  46. [00:52:03] <veeliam> his: <img src="icon80px.jpg" class="logo" alt="" />
  47. [00:52:13] <veeliam> you: <img src="media/images/csarvenWLGreen.jpg" class="photo" alt="Waking Life like image" width="116" height="102"/>
  48. [00:52:23] <veeliam> ok.
  49. [00:52:26] <csarven> i dont think the difference is between logo/photo. ive tried changing that before
  50. [00:52:46] <csarven> when base is present it overriddes the HTTP_REFERER value
  51. [00:53:22] <veeliam> ok. but if you want that i or someone else to import your hcard into my address book or contact list, i'm not sure if the photo will show up.
  52. [00:53:23] <veeliam> no?
  53. [00:57:04] <csarven> veeliam i suppose logo/photo is not retrieved even. see http://feeds.technorati.com/contact
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  98. [06:49:11] <jibot> tantek is Tantek <http://tantek.com> and works on Technorati and develops microformats <http://microformats.org>
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  109. [08:33:06] <mfbot> [[page-summary-formats]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=page-summary-formats&diff=0&oldid=11256 * JoeLaPoutre * (+119) Code -
  110. [08:36:57] <mfbot> [[User:JoeLaPoutre]] N http://microformats.org/wiki/User:JoeLaPoutre * JoeLaPoutre * (+23)
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  113. [09:01:50] <jibot> trovster is a web developer from the UK who writes on http://www.trovster.com and helps with www.multipack.co.uk
  114. [09:09:45] <KevinMarks> http://www.voiceoftech.com/swhitley/index.php/?p=159
  115. [09:09:55] <KevinMarks> do we have a rel="troll" ?
  116. [09:19:32] <veeliam> KevinMarks, I think he's retarded.
  117. [09:19:52] <veeliam> it's a mental handicap thing
  118. [09:20:20] <bengee> heh, if that's really the html he produces for his clients/projects, then microformats clearly aren't an option for him ;)
  119. [09:20:39] <veeliam> I would reccomend rel="mentally challanged"
  120. [09:20:55] <KevinMarks> well, he seems to be saying "I can't be trusted to make good html, so I'll go away and make up my own xml"
  121. [09:21:17] <KevinMarks> which is fair enough, I don't see why we should have to read it
  122. [09:22:13] <veeliam> well, how did you find out about that post?
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  129. [09:32:05] <pengo> hello
  130. [09:32:12] <KevinMarks> it showed up in my technorati feed for my name
  131. [09:32:20] <veeliam> of course
  132. [09:32:37] <KevinMarks> which tantek just polluted by pinging my twitter page
  133. [09:32:37] <veeliam> hello pengo
  134. [09:33:26] <veeliam> that's nice.
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  136. [09:34:50] <jibot> bergie is lives in Finland and blogs at http://bergie.iki.fi/blog/ and Midgard CMS developer
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  143. [10:49:07] <Cloud_> ?help
  144. [10:49:23] <Cloud_> ?herald
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  149. [11:27:38] <mfbot> [[criticism]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=criticism&diff=0&oldid=11257 * AndyMabbett * (+151) Committing An Act of hEresy - Part I
  150. [11:50:04] <KevinMarks> danah live at leweb3
  151. [11:50:11] <KevinMarks> for xfn fans
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  168. [14:23:41] <mkaply> Are n in hCard and adr in hCard containing elements only? That is, I should never need to reference n.textContent or adr.textContent? adr and n should always have subelements
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  171. [14:35:14] <mfbot> [[mailing-lists]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=mailing-lists&diff=0&oldid=11258 * AndyMabbett * (+169) general guidelines - reply to questions
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  192. [15:18:22] <mfbot> [[mailing-lists]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=mailing-lists&diff=0&oldid=11259 * Tantek * (+564) Reverted edit of AndyMabbett, changed back to last version by Tantek
  193. [15:18:34] <malware> Note that the deadline for submitting proposals for XTech 2007 in Paris is December 15
  194. [15:19:04] <malware> http://xtech.expectnation.com/event/1/public/cfp/1
  195. [15:19:33] <malware> more complete list of track descriptions here:
  196. [15:19:36] <malware> http://xtech.expectnation.com/event/1/public/content/tracks
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  198. [15:26:06] <malware> microformats are explicitly listed as being a suitable topic for the "browser technologies" track
  199. [15:31:18] <mfbot> [[mailing-lists]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=mailing-lists&diff=0&oldid=11260 * Tantek * (+148) note overall goals of guidelines, increase signal, decrease noise
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  216. [17:17:58] <mfbot> [[mailing-lists]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=mailing-lists&diff=0&oldid=11261 * AndyMabbett * (-491) increase the "signal to noise" ration on the list.
  217. [17:21:19] <mfbot> [[mailing-lists]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=mailing-lists&diff=0&oldid=11262 * Tantek * (+491) Reverted edit of AndyMabbett, changed back to last version by Tantek
  218. [17:22:30] <mfbot> [[mailing-lists]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=mailing-lists&diff=0&oldid=11263 * Tantek * (+133) please post suggestions for general mailing list guidelines to the list for list-admins to consider
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  220. [17:23:26] <mfbot> [[mailing-lists]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=mailing-lists&diff=0&oldid=11264 * Tantek * (+20)
  221. [17:23:37] <mfbot> [[mailing-lists]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=mailing-lists&diff=0&oldid=11265 * Tantek * (+1) typo
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  237. [18:55:09] <mfbot> [[rest/description]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=rest/description&diff=0&oldid=11266 * DrErnie * (+91) Proposals/Examples - WADL
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  253. [20:39:13] <BenWard> Good evening all
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  255. [20:44:08] <kingryan> hi ben
  256. [20:45:25] <BenWard> I swear every time I sign in now there's an extra admin in here… clearly we're getting too rowdy…
  257. [20:45:48] <kingryan> I'm building up a posse
  258. [20:46:39] <gsnedders> the war has begun!
  259. [20:47:04] <BenWard> A posse is always good to have
  260. [20:48:36] <BenWard> You need the kind who just silently stand around you and look intimidating though; anyone too vocal might make it look like a democracy.
  261. [20:49:23] <Tene> So who's the enemy?
  262. [20:49:48] <gsnedders> me!
  263. [20:49:49] <gsnedders> choose me!
  264. [20:50:00] <kingryan> the scottish!
  265. [20:51:12] <gsnedders> kingryan: was that random?
  266. [20:51:15] <kingryan> no
  267. [20:51:30] <kingryan> gsnedders: you're scottish, right?
  268. [20:51:44] <Phae> heh
  269. [20:51:52] <gsnedders> kingryan: I count myself as English, despite having been born and lived in Scotland my whole life
  270. [20:52:01] <kingryan> ah, nevermind
  271. [20:52:03] <gsnedders> kingryan: how do you know, anyway?
  272. [20:52:26] <kingryan> ?whois gsnedders
  273. [20:52:27] <jibot> gsnedders is a 14 year old idiot from Scotland and pretends to have a website at http://geoffers.uni.cc/
  274. [20:52:29] <Phae> don't you say it?
  275. [20:52:32] <Phae> ah yeah. there.
  276. [20:52:34] * gsnedders headdesks
  277. [20:52:36] <Phae> heh
  278. [20:52:46] <gsnedders> don't. forget. the. obvious.
  279. [20:56:23] <kingryan> anyway, about the growth of the admins...
  280. [20:56:39] * Phae glances.
  281. [20:56:46] <kingryan> I'm just trying to unSPOF tantek and myself
  282. [20:57:01] <kingryan> (Single Point of Failure)
  283. [20:57:10] <Phae> (i.e. spread the blame)
  284. [20:57:33] * Phae kids.
  285. [20:57:35] * gsnedders shoots kingryan and tantek
  286. [20:57:42] * gsnedders always kids, due to his age.
  287. [20:57:53] <kingryan> plausible deniability: "It was Phae's idea, I swear!"
  288. [20:58:00] <Phae> quite.
  289. [20:58:22] <Phae> but in all seriousness, for some silly reason tantek and ryan are busy sometimes... so it's helpful if there's other bodies about that can undo mistakes etc.
  290. [20:58:37] <tantek> revert damage to the wiki, block spammers etc.
  291. [20:58:44] <Phae> z'ackly
  292. [20:58:59] * kingryan doesn't want to revert wiki spam in the middle of the night
  293. [20:59:23] <bewest> Hakon had an interesting point regarding usage of the term microformat
  294. [20:59:59] * kingryan has finished his masters' degree, he no longer fights spam in the middle of the night :D
  295. [21:00:13] <Phae> congrats!
  296. [21:00:19] <gsnedders> kingryan: a masters' in fighting spam?
  297. [21:00:37] <kingryan> no, cat herding
  298. [21:04:00] <bewest> kingryan: congrats!
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  301. [21:12:12] <BenWard> Seems like a good move with the adminship. And on the subject of blame, I intend to get <del>This</del><ins>Last</ins> Week in Microformats written up shortly.
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  305. [21:24:39] <mfbot> [[rest/description]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=rest/description&diff=0&oldid=11267 * DrErnie * (+115) Proposals/Examples - introspection
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  308. [21:32:55] <jibot> tantek is Tantek <http://tantek.com> and works on Technorati and develops microformats <http://microformats.org>
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  321. [23:05:34] <jibot> bergie is lives in Finland and blogs at http://bergie.iki.fi/blog/ and Midgard CMS developer
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