IRC Log for #microformats on 2007-01-25
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[[hresume]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hresume&diff=0&oldid=12858 * WizardIsHungry * (+172) Examples in the wild -
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[[hcard-examples-in-wild]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcard-examples-in-wild&diff=0&oldid=12859 * WizardIsHungry * (+133) Examples -
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Hi guys: I have 240 hResume + hCards: http://steinhardt.nyu.edu/faculty_bios/list/Faculty
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- [00:40:16] <tantek>
whoa
- [00:44:44] <jcw9>
Yea, it may not be perfect but its there
- [00:45:06] <tantek>
jcw9 - r u WizardIsHungry?
- [00:45:44] <jcw9>
yes
- [00:46:36] <jcw9>
You should see the BACKEND for that application :(
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sreynen is Scott Reynen, who makes things at makedatamakesense.com
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- [01:58:24] <aconbere|work>
so I wrote a little blog post on a code microformat (for storing code snippets or blocks of code with associated data like licenses and authors)
- [01:58:31] <aconbere|work>
http://anders.conbere.org/posts/code-microformat/
- [01:59:09] <othermaciej>
shouldn't it just use rel=license for the license?
- [01:59:49] <aconbere|work>
probably, but there are two cases really
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- [02:00:06] <aconbere|work>
one in which the license is available online and can be linked to
- [02:00:20] <aconbere|work>
and one where the license is just written in
- [02:00:27] <aconbere|work>
(like the beerware license)
- [02:00:49] <aconbere|work>
but with regards to linking out that sounds dandy to me
- [02:01:08] <aconbere|work>
(I really don't have any experience in doing this, so I'm happy to hear what people have to suggest)
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veeliam is William Lawrence <http://zaxbypass.com>
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tantek is Tantek <http://tantek.com> and works on Technorati and develops microformats <http://microformats.org>
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- [03:45:02] <aconbere|mobile>
the worst part about mailing lists
- [03:45:05] <aconbere|mobile>
is the waiting
- [03:45:38] <aconbere|mobile>
sitting on the edge of your seat... waiting to see who responds and what they're responses are. I'm used to a world that is much more imediate
- [03:45:52] <Baristo>
You would have hated the 80s.
- [03:45:53] <Baristo>
:)
- [03:46:12] <Baristo>
Or any decade before that for that matter. hehe
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- [03:52:55] <SteveGanz>
San Francisco Bay Area, Greater Los Angeles Area, Greater New York City Area, etc...
- [03:53:06] <SteveGanz>
...localities or regions?
- [03:54:24] <Baristo>
My vote is for localities.
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- [03:54:47] <Baristo>
To me regions encompass larger areas.
- [03:55:15] <SteveGanz>
That's my feeling too. Anyone else out there want to weigh in?
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- [03:58:07] <Baristo>
What's the interest for the destinction SteveGanz? Work-related?
- [03:58:31] <aconbere|mobile>
when I think of localities I think of setting languages
- [03:58:34] <aconbere|mobile>
or timezones
- [03:58:49] <SteveGanz>
Yes. I work for LinkedIn. Millions of hResumes are at stake. ;)
- [03:59:08] <Baristo>
Oh! Hah, I'm a LI user myself. Love the site. :)
- [03:59:25] <SteveGanz>
Since it's referencing a city in the name, I think locality makes sense. If it was Northern California, I'd go with region for sure.
- [03:59:39] <Baristo>
Definitely.
- [04:00:07] <SteveGanz>
Baristo, glad you like. We're republishing all of our Public Profiles in hResume next week.
- [04:00:18] <Baristo>
I'm "Greater Seattle Area", now while "Puget Sound Region" has been used in the past, that includes numerous cities, counties, etc.
- [04:00:47] <Baristo>
"area" to me conveys the main city and its immediate metro outlyings.
- [04:01:11] <aconbere|mobile>
Baristo: and now it's "the east side" :-D
- [04:01:25] <SteveGanz>
:)
- [04:01:41] <Baristo>
Awesome SteveGanz. I work for Ascentium. We do almost all of the microsoft.com sites, I'm trying to inject a bit of mf into a huge TechNet migration I'm in charge of.
- [04:02:21] <Baristo>
Hehe aconbere|mobile, yeah. I'm in downtown Bellevue, the Bel-Red area is basically its own beast now.
- [04:02:38] <SteveGanz>
Excellent! Bill Gates said it himself, right "We need microformats."
- [04:02:44] <Baristo>
Yep.
- [04:03:00] <Baristo>
I'm sort of forcing myself to be the mf evangelist with my company.
- [04:03:00] <aconbere|mobile>
more important I think is that tech demo by ray ozzie
- [04:03:21] <aconbere|mobile>
bill always has his head in the clouds
- [04:03:37] <aconbere|mobile>
when their cheif technologists makes an applications that actually uses mfs
- [04:03:40] <aconbere|mobile>
that's a big deal
- [04:03:48] <SteveGanz>
Indeed.
- [04:03:58] <OpenStandards>
SteveGanz, bill gates also said DRM is bad but the zune has plenty of it bundled with the device
- [04:04:25] <SteveGanz>
lol
- [04:05:12] <Baristo>
Heh, I need to update my LI profile. It's been eight months since I graduated and it still says I'm a recent college grad. :p
- [04:06:21] <Baristo>
How are you liking it there SteveGanz?
- [04:06:41] <Baristo>
I'm sort of wanting to take that whole evangelist route with mf beyond my company and do side consulting perhaps.
- [04:07:29] <SteveGanz>
Loving it. I just joined about 7 weeks ago, but I've been passionate about hResume for awhile and it's nice to be putting it good use finally.
- [04:07:59] <SteveGanz>
I am sure there will be a need for it.
- [04:08:00] <Baristo>
Very cool. Did you approach them with an offer to help, or were they seeking a usability/standards specialist?
- [04:08:29] <Baristo>
I basically centered my schooling around usability studies and accessibility design.
- [04:08:30] <SteveGanz>
They approached me.
- [04:08:35] <Baristo>
Ah very nice.
- [04:08:43] <SteveGanz>
Through LinkedIn, of course. ;)
- [04:08:49] <Baristo>
Hehe. :)
- [04:09:58] <Baristo>
Well congrats and a great job with the hResume implementation!
- [04:10:02] <Baristo>
I'll be sure to use it.
- [04:10:15] <SteveGanz>
The evangelism role is a great one. PayPal is still seeking to fill my position that I left behind. If your interested, let me know.
- [04:10:31] <SteveGanz>
Thanks, Baristo.
- [04:10:55] <Baristo>
Sure thing! I don't know if my current experience is enough, but I'll definitely give it a thought.
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- [04:16:34] <aconbere|mobile>
hmmm is it normal for a first post to the mailing list to take up to an hour to be sent out?
- [04:18:28] <tantek>
aconvere - be sure u r sending from the account that u subscribed with, otherwise it will eventually be bounced back to u
- [04:18:41] <tantek>
see the FAQ for more on that
- [04:21:14] <aconbere|mobile>
yeah It's the same account as I have my confirmation email in
- [04:23:00] <aconbere|mobile>
and I can log in to the mailing list prefrences with that account
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- [04:36:02] <tantek>
b sure u r not sending text/html email - that's also in the faq
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- [04:36:49] <aconbere|mobile>
yup text/plain
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- [04:48:40] <aconbere|mobile>
just to make sure I'm not crazy the discussion email address is microformats-discuss@microformats.org
- [04:48:43] <aconbere|mobile>
right?
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mlinksva is Mike Linksvayer and from Creative Commons
- [04:49:48] <Baristo>
Hey there mlinksva.
- [04:50:06] <mlinksva>
Baristo, hi
- [04:52:32] <Baristo>
How's the evening going for you?
- [04:55:07] <mlinksva>
i'm writing up a proposal for a chatbot microformat. very exciting stuff
- [04:57:14] <Baristo>
Oh cool! :)
- [04:57:31] <Baristo>
mf's are great fun.
- [04:59:05] <mlinksva>
indeed. it's really more of a meta-microformat, or a convention for hCard ... a set of tags to use with hCard and rel-tag, e.g., chatbot, inane, greeter, howareyou, cool
- [04:59:36] <aconbere|mobile>
so... it's been an hour and a half since I sent an email to the mailing list and it still hasn't shown up, does anyone have any other ideas besides "it not being the right account" or "the wrong encoding"?
- [05:00:46] <Baristo>
Nice! I'm in the beginning stages of planning out a cafe finder site, I'm trying to figure out how I can get microformats to work well with the site.
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- [05:02:32] <Baristo>
First though I need to find myself either a) an available Rails guru, or b) another available Rails guru. ;)
- [05:03:03] * aconbere|mobile points to django
- [05:03:12] <Baristo>
You know, I was also thinking of django.
- [05:03:18] <aconbere|mobile>
it's awesome
- [05:03:25] <aconbere|mobile>
not that rails isn't
- [05:03:37] <aconbere|mobile>
but it's a different sort of awesome
- [05:03:46] <Baristo>
I'm not a programmer per se, I mean I can understand the flow of code and such, I'm just not gifted in that area.
- [05:04:20] * aconbere|mobile nods
- [05:04:31] <Baristo>
I'm a user experience type of person, accessibility and semantics and such. And I have way too many ideas that could be turned into successful ventures. It's just finding the right team.
- [05:04:35] <Baristo>
*just about
- [05:04:40] <aconbere|mobile>
I think that in a few decades we might see that start to change, but then again, people still don't fix their own cars :)
- [05:04:50] <Baristo>
Haha, so true.
- [05:06:59] <Baristo>
Are you a Django coder I take it?
- [05:07:09] <aconbere|mobile>
I've been playing with it lately
- [05:07:29] <Baristo>
Nice. :)
- [05:07:44] <aconbere|mobile>
I picked up rails about a year ago, and found ruby a bit mind bogling, python I'm much more comfortable with
- [05:08:17] <aconbere|mobile>
(ruby, and by extension rails, as a particular affinity for shortcuts, which in my experience tends to limit the readability of code... like perl)
- [05:08:24] <aconbere|mobile>
s/as/has
- [05:10:01] <aconbere|mobile>
anyways... both communities have job posting boards, and great communities
- [05:10:13] <aconbere|mobile>
I would hazard to guess that without too much effort you could dig something up
- [05:10:17] <aconbere|mobile>
:)
- [05:10:17] <Baristo>
Yeah, I'm interested in pushing this site live with either. :)
- [05:11:04] <Baristo>
Mostly I'm interested in finding someone who has the chops enough to code a solid, stable, and secure backend and provide a solid link to the front-end.
- [05:12:04] <aconbere|mobile>
they're out there, but the good ones aren't cheap
- [05:12:46] <Baristo>
I might be taking the more difficult road then I suppose. I'd be looking to form a joint venture agreement with them, then eventually a business partnership.
- [05:13:26] <aconbere|mobile>
I presume something along the lines of yelp or unthirsty?
- [05:14:31] <Baristo>
A bit like that, but more socially interactive.
- [05:14:48] <aconbere|mobile>
in either framework I would really recommend you sitting down and walking through the tutorial, plus it will give you an excuse to hop in the channels and chat with people. And will give you an idea of what's going on so you don't get scammed.
- [05:14:49] <Baristo>
Perhaps a bit like those with a mix of Cork'd.
- [05:15:07] <aconbere|mobile>
they only take maybe an hour or two
- [05:15:12] <aconbere|mobile>
so a weekend activity
- [05:15:47] <Baristo>
I have the Rails book by Thomas and Hansson, 2nd edition. I plan on doing the Depot excercise this next weekend.
- [05:16:26] <aconbere|mobile>
fun stuff, I'm newish to django, and got a project swamping me right now otherwise I would volunteer my efforts :) I like new challanges.
- [05:16:36] <Baristo>
Very cool. :)
- [05:17:09] <aconbere|mobile>
heh and I would head to bed if my hcode microformat proposal would post to the mailing list :)
- [05:17:14] <Baristo>
I was going to be working with a student on this, but I just felt bad because if this ballons into something big, I don't really want to screw up his education.
- [05:17:20] <Baristo>
Hehe
- [05:17:52] <Baristo>
I have everything of the site planned out... and apart from the developer, I'm pounding my head over name ideas.
- [05:17:59] <aconbere|mobile>
oh god
- [05:18:05] <aconbere|mobile>
yeah I just did that a few weeks back
- [05:18:07] <aconbere|mobile>
and I hate it
- [05:18:26] <Baristo>
I had one and got the domain, but it just seemed to cliche.
- [05:18:30] <Baristo>
"espressr".
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- [05:18:36] <Baristo>
Too flickr'ish
- [05:19:05] <Baristo>
If I'm going to be noticed, the name needs to be something that can't be associated with anything else.
- [05:19:21] <Baristo>
At least nothing popular and "trendy". :)
- [05:20:49] <KevinMarks>
http://www.flickr.com/groups/api/discuss/72157594497877875/
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- [05:21:18] <jibot>
bergie is lives in Finland and blogs at http://bergie.iki.fi/blog/ and Midgard CMS developer
- [05:21:47] <Baristo>
KevinMarks, microformats gone Flickr?
- [05:22:09] <aconbere|mobile>
well it looks like an extension of css namespaces
- [05:22:16] <aconbere|mobile>
html namespaces
- [05:22:17] <KevinMarks>
well, it's a bit of a tags pollutant in some ways
- [05:22:25] * Baristo nods.
- [05:22:27] <aconbere|mobile>
but as far as I know IE doesn't support them at all
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- [06:31:09] <veeliam_>
anyone tell me if this looks right: <a class="url fn org" href="http://name-of-company.com/">Name of Company</a>
- [06:31:28] <veeliam_>
it's just for an organisation.
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Hi briansuda.
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hello
- [08:09:27] <Baristo>
I've just found the joys of Drupal. :)
- [08:09:39] <Baristo>
As a non-coder, I think I've found everything I'm looking for to develop my community site.
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excellent
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Another plus is that it can be run and developed solely by myself, no worrying about odd partnerships and such. :)
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Now just to figure out if some mf modules have been written for it.
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[[advocacy-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=advocacy-fr&diff=0&oldid=12860 * ChristopheDucamp * (+24) ajout succès hreview
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markp: PM? I have a couple of questions that are really rather specific to you, and really don't fit in any channel.
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wow.
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Hello all
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I would like to join one of the mailinglists to discuss XPN, which of the mailinglists should i subscribe to?
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Do you mean XFN?
- [17:06:45] <Kilianvalkhof>
no, XPN (xhtml professional network) there is a little blurb about it on the microformats homepage
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i blogged about
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the idea last december
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so i would like to join one of the mailinglist to discuss about it. I am, however, a complete noob when it comes to mailinglists, so i wonder which one i should send it to, discuss or dev
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Have you looked at the archives of both?
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how do i do that?
- [17:09:55] <Kilianvalkhof>
doh, sorry
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Morning all!
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Or afternoon or evening. :)
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hi Baristo
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I've got Drupal up and running for the first time today, loving it so far. :)
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I think it's going to be the perfect tool for my community site.
- [17:27:41] <OpenStandards>
cool
- [17:27:55] <Baristo>
Yeah seems very cool.
- [17:27:56] <OpenStandards>
never used drupal myself
- [17:28:15] <Baristo>
I don't know a whole lot about it, I just put it on my Media Temple share. :)
- [17:28:47] <OpenStandards>
ahh alright
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I'm going to see if there's a way I can inject some MF into it.
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i´m looking into semantic css columns
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Baristo - drupal templates are infinitely customizable
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though a tad steep on the learning curve
- [17:30:06] <Baristo>
Oh very good monkinetic, that's exactly what I wanted to hear. :D
- [17:30:33] <Baristo>
I suppose this means I'll have to learn PHP a bit, hehe.
- [17:30:44] <monkinetic>
a bit, but not hugely
- [17:31:01] <Baristo>
Great.
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I have a lot to learn, as I'd like to get this site out to the public in Spring.
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mlinksva is Mike Linksvayer and from Creative Commons
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hah, that's cool, a personal introduction
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hiya,
- [18:04:10] <jcw9>
hi
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[[code-examples]] N http://microformats.org/wiki/code-examples * Aconbere * (+2267)
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- [18:06:13] <JamieKnight>
hiya,
- [18:06:20] <JamieKnight>
jcw9: how is you CSS?
- [18:06:24] <JamieKnight>
i need some help,
- [18:06:31] <mfbot>
[[code-examples]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=code-examples&diff=0&oldid=12868 * Aconbere * (-60) Real-World Examples -
- [18:06:47] <mfbot>
[[code-examples]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=code-examples&diff=0&oldid=12869 * Aconbere * (+1) Real-World Examples -
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Mr_Elusive is not a programmer from id but makes his home at http://eswat.ca
- [18:08:53] <mfbot>
[[include-pattern-faq]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=include-pattern-faq&diff=0&oldid=12870 * WizardIsHungry * (+102) What is the normative behavior for an include with a "data" value that does not exist?
- [18:09:46] <jcw9>
Sure, ask the question
- [18:12:07] <JamieKnight>
i have to make thin vertical "strips" for a navagation, any idea how? using a UL for it to remain semantic
- [18:15:02] <jcw9>
Do you have an example of a site that does this? Or a screen shot?
- [18:15:24] <jcw9>
Are you just trying to make UL > LI stuff layout differently?
- [18:15:42] <JamieKnight>
i have the design, of the site i am marking up,
- [18:15:49] <JamieKnight>
one sec, need ot upload it to the server,
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[[hresume]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hresume&diff=0&oldid=12871 * WizardIsHungry * (+65) Examples in the wild -
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iand is Ian Davis who blogs at http://iandavis.com/blog
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danbri is that foaf guy from http://danbri.org/
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[[code-examples]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=code-examples&diff=0&oldid=12872 * Aconbere * (+298) Real-World Examples -
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[[code-examples]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=code-examples&diff=0&oldid=12873 * Aconbere * (+1) Real-World Examples -
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[[resume-brainstorming]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=resume-brainstorming&diff=0&oldid=12875 * WizardIsHungry * (+287) left off for now - NYU Awards statistics
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[[Main Page]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=Main_Page&diff=0&oldid=12876 * Aconbere * (+40)
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[[Main Page]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=Main_Page&diff=0&oldid=12877 * Aconbere * (+0)
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wow... does he post every change made to the wiki?
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bergie is lives in Finland and blogs at http://bergie.iki.fi/blog/ and Midgard CMS developer
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does anyone know how invalid markup effects processing of the DOM in IE? I suspect that IE takes some time to fix the DOM near onload firing, probably right before, and that invalid markup can cause a period of unresponsiveness during this fix time
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danja is Danny Ayers, http://dannyayers.com
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sreynen is Scott Reynen, who makes things at makedatamakesense.com
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- [19:41:42] <TylerR>
Hey there sreynen.
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hi
- [19:42:37] <TylerR>
How's your day going?
- [19:42:39] <sreynen>
aconbere|work, yes mfbot posts every change made to the wiki
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fine, just catching up on the -discuss list
- [19:44:18] <TylerR>
Ah nice. :)
- [19:45:55] <TylerR>
Say, how do you get that jibot to announce your presence to the world? :)
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http://microformats.org/wiki/irc
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see "Greetings"
- [19:47:53] <TylerR>
Perfect! Thank you sreynen.
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BenWard is Ben Ward of http://ben-ward.co.uk ( 0000/ 0100 GMT)
- [19:53:02] <aconbere|work>
sreynen: I guess that's good insentive not to make a bunch of little edits like I just did :P
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[[resume-brainstorming]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=resume-brainstorming&diff=0&oldid=12878 * WizardIsHungry * (+173) Examples Analysis -
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?def TylerR is Tyler Roehmholdt and is brewing something up at http://mappuccino.com
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TylerR is Tyler Roehmholdt and is brewing something up at http://mappuccino.com
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?def Kilian Valkhof makes website, is a student and blogs at http://kilianvalkhof.com
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Kilian Valkhof makes website, is a student and blogs at http://kilianvalkhof.com
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?def Kilian Valkhof makes websites, is a student and blogs at http://kilianvalkhof.com
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Kilian Valkhof makes websites, is a student and blogs at http://kilianvalkhof.com
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tantek is Tantek <http://tantek.com> and works on Technorati and develops microformats <http://microformats.org>
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GET /tantek
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302 Found
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:)
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:P
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should start using http codes for twitters
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monkinetic is redmonk is SteveIvy is Steve Ivy - http://redmonk.net
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bergie is lives in Finland and blogs at http://bergie.iki.fi/blog/ and Midgard CMS developer
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veeliam is William Lawrence <http://zaxbypass.com>
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I'm trying to figure out how to put a county issued licence number for a business in their hCard. any idea?
- [21:27:27] <mkaply>
veeliam you can put any data in the card from a visual point of view. Would any appluication need to read it?
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currently, i can't think of any app, other than just one more detail.
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I was thinking of using the "uid" property.
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because the license is a document that grants authority to the organisation.
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- [21:46:41] <mkaply>
but could you just embed the text in the HTML - no need to classify it
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tantek is Tantek <http://tantek.com> and works on Technorati and develops microformats <http://microformats.org>
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[[code-examples]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=code-examples&diff=0&oldid=12880 * SvenFuchs * (+427) Added CodeHighlighter
- [22:28:14] <veeliam>
mkaply, correct. there ought to be no need to classify it, however if there was already a standard for such documentation, it'd be nice.
- [22:28:42] <aconbere|work>
someone contributed to my wiki page
- [22:28:45] <aconbere|work>
that's so exciting
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iand is Ian Davis who blogs at http://iandavis.com/blog
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[[mailing-lists]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=mailing-lists&diff=0&oldid=12881 * Tantek * (+104) general guidelines -
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aconbere, welcome to the wonderful world of distributed semi-anonymous collaboration. :)
- [22:32:33] <aconbere|work>
tantek: heh, I've been there before, but not in anything I've really cared much about, or put any real time into. Wikipedia, too big. Mozilla, too big :)
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yes you might say we try to keep things small in microformats ;)
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haha
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bad, tantek. bad. but yes, funny.
- [22:34:28] <aconbere|work>
when puns are outlawed only outlaws will have puns
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[[code-examples]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=code-examples&diff=0&oldid=12882 * SvenFuchs * (+381)
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- [22:52:53] <jcw9>
hi guys! :D
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Hey there SteveGanz, this is Baristo if it wasn't obvious. :)
- [23:01:58] <SteveGanz>
Hi TylerR.
- [23:02:46] <TylerR>
In preparation for hResume, I'm revamping my LI profile. :)
- [23:03:11] <SteveGanz>
Excellent!
- [23:03:48] <TylerR>
Any suggestions for successful rebuild?
- [23:04:10] <jcw9>
LinkedIn is kind of limited
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:/
- [23:05:09] <SteveGanz>
Tyler, I saw your updates last night. It's looking good.
- [23:05:33] <SteveGanz>
jcw9, do you have some recommendations on how to make it better?
- [23:05:39] <SteveGanz>
?def Steve Ganz is a Web Developer for LinkedIn
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Steve Ganz is a Web Developer for LinkedIn
- [23:05:44] <jcw9>
Aha!
- [23:05:53] <jcw9>
No, I just joined it recently
- [23:06:30] <TylerR>
Good to hear SteveGanz. I pulled that info from my resume. I'm wondering if it's almost too much info though. :)
- [23:06:41] <SteveGanz>
We find that it becomes more effective as you breach the 20 contacts mark.
- [23:06:42] <jcw9>
I think I'm still at the stage of using it where I don't have enough contacts for it to be useful.
- [23:06:51] <jcw9>
EXACTLY :D
- [23:07:13] <jcw9>
I wish I didn't feel like it was match.com for business though
- [23:07:27] <SteveGanz>
Tyler, we'd like you to think of your LinkedIn profile as your online resume.
- [23:07:35] <TylerR>
SteveGanz: I actually wiped my contact list save for you. A lot of people on that list haven't updated in a year or so.
- [23:07:56] <TylerR>
I want to build out contacts that I actively *have* contact with. :)
- [23:08:02] <SteveGanz>
The key to LinkedIn, is that you are in control of the quality and the strength of your network.
- [23:08:12] <TylerR>
Exactly, that's why I wanted to rebuild.
- [23:08:18] <TylerR>
And that's a great way of thinking.
- [23:09:14] <jcw9>
My CV portal for NYU beat linkedin on hResume support :D
- [23:09:36] <SteveGanz>
jcw9, we're republishing all Public Profiles in hResume in the next few days.
- [23:09:40] <jcw9>
But of course, half the fields there aren't in hResume
- [23:09:41] <SteveGanz>
As early as tomorrow!
- [23:09:54] <jcw9>
That's the rumor on the street! I've been live since yesterday
- [23:10:02] <TylerR>
Are we going to see a change in profile layout/content SteveGanz?
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- [23:10:33] <SteveGanz>
Not in this first pass. It will be just be markup changes.
- [23:10:37] * TylerR nods.
- [23:11:45] <SteveGanz>
I'm preparing a blog post about it and will send a note to the list as well.
- [23:12:10] <TylerR>
I'm meeting with our company's resident SEO/search expert next week for lunch. I'm going to be introducing her to microformats.
- [23:12:13] <TylerR>
Great.
- [23:12:44] <jcw9>
Are you going to be pinging pingerati?
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Link to LI blog?
- [23:14:26] <SteveGanz>
The post will be to my personal blog: http://steve.ganz.name/blog
- [23:15:24] <jcw9>
thanks :D
- [23:15:40] <TylerR>
I should really go purchase tyler.roehmholdt.info. :)
- [23:16:02] <jcw9>
Is LinkedIn going to be going past the established spec on hResume?
- [23:16:08] <jcw9>
like new field types?
- [23:16:10] <TylerR>
I don't think I have to worry about roehmholdt.tld going to someone else any time soon.
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davecardwell is Dave Cardwell of http://davecardwell.co.uk/. He designs webs and generally geeks about in York, England.
- [23:17:00] <SteveGanz>
Well, we had some issues implementing skills with rel-tag in this first pass, so I've had to come up with an alternative.
- [23:18:09] <jcw9>
hmmm
- [23:18:15] <TylerR>
Interesting, what did you come up with SteveGanz?
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- [23:19:23] <SteveGanz>
We allow free text input for "specialties". So I am marking that up with <p class="skills">.
- [23:19:34] <jcw9>
That's not so bad
- [23:19:52] <jcw9>
have you considered detecting if its comma delimited and then rel-tag ing?
- [23:21:08] <SteveGanz>
Definitely, but that's a little tricky. My hope is that we can create our own tag space eventually.
- [23:21:44] <SteveGanz>
Time to do some last minute sanity checks.
- [23:22:18] <SteveGanz>
I'll be back.
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