IRC Log for #microformats on 2007-02-06

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  21. [02:19:55] <jibot> whafro is M. Jackson Wilkinson, a designer/developer for Grassroots Enterprise in Washington, DC
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  26. [03:05:08] <jibot> redmonk is Steve Ivy, http://redmonk.net and is linklogging at http://deliciouslymeta.com
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  28. [03:07:06] <redmonk> tantek: did you have a chance to look over the XFN test data earlier? (http://redmonk.net/archives/2007/02/05/xfn-test-data/) i was popping on and off due to restarts so i don't know if you saw it. i'll post about it on the uF list later.
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  30. [03:41:39] <tantek> did u c my feedback in the channel?
  31. [03:46:08] <Sevensor> Evening!
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  33. [03:49:42] <Sevensor> tantek, is the microformat site simply a Wordpress blog with a custom CSS them and multiple pages?
  34. [03:58:37] <tantek> the microformats site uses Wordpress yes
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  36. [04:00:02] <redmonk> tantek: i'm afraid i did not
  37. [04:00:14] <redmonk> i was popping in and out, bad connection and restarts.
  38. [04:00:31] <redmonk> are there logs?
  39. [04:02:07] <redmonk> found em, reading no
  40. [04:02:09] <redmonk> w.
  41. [04:06:14] <Sevensor> Great design and implementation I must say tantek.
  42. [04:06:30] <Sevensor> I suppose I should be thanking Dan C as well.
  43. [04:06:32] * Sevensor smiles.
  44. [04:07:19] <tantek> http://rbach.priv.at/Microformats-IRC/2007-02-05#T163544
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  52. [05:03:17] <jibot> bergie is lives in Finland and blogs at http://bergie.iki.fi/blog/ and Midgard CMS developer
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  58. [06:57:03] <mfbot> [[rel-tag-faq-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=rel-tag-faq-fr&diff=0&oldid=13296 * ChristopheDucamp * (+316) Tags à plusieurs mots -
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  62. [07:09:14] <jibot> bergie is lives in Finland and blogs at http://bergie.iki.fi/blog/ and Midgard CMS developer
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  65. [07:34:56] <mfbot> [[User:ChristopheDucamp]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=User:ChristopheDucamp&diff=0&oldid=13298 * ChristopheDucamp * (-13) updating hcard i-name dropped in class="name" -> not sure...
  66. [07:35:42] <mfbot> [[User:ChristopheDucamp]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=User:ChristopheDucamp&diff=0&oldid=13299 * ChristopheDucamp * (+21)
  67. [07:36:48] <mfbot> [[User:ChristopheDucamp]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=User:ChristopheDucamp&diff=0&oldid=13300 * ChristopheDucamp * (-2)
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  69. [07:56:31] <jibot> Charl is Charl van Niekerk and writes about standards at http://standards.za.net/
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  72. [08:05:35] <jibot> bengee is Benjamin Nowack (http://bnode.org/)
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  76. [09:04:02] <jibot> trovster is a web developer from the UK who writes on http://www.trovster.com and helps with www.multipack.co.uk
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  79. [09:18:59] <jibot> iand is Ian Davis who blogs at http://iandavis.com/blog
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  85. [10:23:38] <jibot> tantek is Tantek <http://tantek.com> and works on Technorati and develops microformats <http://microformats.org>
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  88. [10:40:26] <jibot> julianstahnke is Julian Stahnke and works for last.fm and implements microformats wherever he can
  89. [10:56:23] <mfbot> [[citation-brainstorming]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=citation-brainstorming&diff=0&oldid=13301 * WolfgangWiese * (+495) Discussion about citing legal cases -
  90. [10:57:19] <mfbot> [[citation-brainstorming]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=citation-brainstorming&diff=0&oldid=13302 * WolfgangWiese * (+48) Examples in the wild -
  91. [11:00:55] <mfbot> [[citation-brainstorming]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=citation-brainstorming&diff=0&oldid=13303 * WolfgangWiese * (-4) Examples in the wild - headerchange
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  107. [12:49:30] <JamieKnight> hiya
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  109. [12:57:04] <mfbot> [[hcard-examples-in-wild]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcard-examples-in-wild&diff=0&oldid=13304 * Mlowe * (+140) New Examples -
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  117. [13:52:00] <jibot> monkinetic is redmonk is SteveIvy is Steve Ivy - http://redmonk.net
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  120. [14:08:28] <jibot> Mr_Elusive is not a programmer from id but makes his home at http://eswat.ca
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  123. [14:21:39] <jibot> bergie is lives in Finland and blogs at http://bergie.iki.fi/blog/ and Midgard CMS developer
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  129. [15:06:36] <jibot> mkaply is Michael Kaply <http://www.kaply.com/weblog/> and is the developer of Operator <https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/4106/>
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  133. [15:42:51] <jibot> briansuda is brian suda of http://suda.co.uk and is at (-0000 GMT) and is author of "Using Microformats" for O'Reilly [http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/microformats/]
  134. [15:46:09] <mkaply> briansuda: I've just about given up on using your transforms through Firefox. I get some other strange side effects
  135. [15:46:28] <briansuda> hm, like what?
  136. [15:46:50] <briansuda> we recently have been playing with the test suite and have found a few issues with different XSLT engines
  137. [15:48:53] <mkaply> Like on this one
  138. [15:48:53] <mkaply> http://microformats.org/tests/hcard/23-abbr-title-everything.html
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  140. [15:49:45] <mkaply> It gets the nickname as both jj and foo
  141. [15:50:32] <mkaply> actually. that might be another local-name problem somewhere else now that I Think about it
  142. [15:51:09] <mkaply> Since it's getting foo as another nickname because fn is one word (which it shouldn't be because of the abbr)
  143. [15:51:55] <mkaply> briansuda: I need to just make this version of Operator available. It's pretty cool. In debug, you can flip between my VCF and yoru VCF and compare
  144. [15:52:07] <mkaply> I've made it so my layout is the same as yours so you can just eyeball it
  145. [15:52:28] <briansuda> excellent
  146. [15:52:36] <briansuda> if you need help let me know
  147. [15:53:28] <mkaply> The first case on this one
  148. [15:53:29] <mkaply> http://microformats.org/tests/hcard/03-implied-n.html
  149. [15:53:38] <mkaply> The implied fn isn't happening when I use Firefox transformiix
  150. [15:54:11] <mkaply> actually, it's for this one
  151. [15:54:12] <mkaply> <P class="vcard">
  152. [15:54:12] <mkaply> <ABBR title="Ryan King" class="fn">me</ABBR>
  153. [15:54:12] <mkaply> </P>
  154. [15:54:30] <mkaply> So these really all might boil down to the local-name issue
  155. [15:54:55] * mkaply really needs to make removing duplicates an option in prefs - makes testing difficult
  156. [15:55:50] <briansuda> do you know if transformix can do EXSLT?
  157. [15:56:01] <briansuda> that will be the next major update to the XSLT code from my end
  158. [15:56:16] <mkaply> Not until FF 3
  159. [15:56:18] <mkaply> http://www.oreillynet.com/xml/blog/2007/01/limited_exslt_support_in_mozil.html
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  162. [16:14:13] <jibot> mlinksva is Mike Linksvayer and from Creative Commons
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  165. [16:26:57] <jibot> Charl is Charl van Niekerk and writes about standards at http://standards.za.net/
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  167. [16:29:12] <jibot> Kilianvalkhof is Kilian Valkhof, he makes websites and blogs at http://kilianvalkhof.com
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  171. [16:40:18] <JamieKnight> /msg NickServ IDENTIFY JamieKnight
  172. [16:40:46] <JamieKnight> /msg NickServ IDENTIFY JamieKnight
  173. [16:41:40] <JamieKnight> hiya,
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  175. [16:50:24] <jibot> csarven is Sarven Capadisli and can be found online at http://www.csarven.ca
  176. [16:50:30] <JamieKnight> hiya,
  177. [16:50:33] <JamieKnight> how be you?
  178. [16:55:56] <JamieKnight> csarven: yay, your hCard work on my hCard to Gmail converter.
  179. [17:00:54] <mkaply> JamieKnight: so do you think at some point there will be the potential to just have way to use a URL to add a gmail contact.
  180. [17:00:59] * mkaply really wants a gmail contact action in operator
  181. [17:01:30] <JamieKnight> mkaply: i have a converter service on my site, and you can get the bookmarklet from www.jkg3.com/stuff
  182. [17:01:45] <JamieKnight> sadly, you still have to upload it :(
  183. [17:02:04] <JamieKnight> but, i have e-mailed google about an api to add to you gmail with,
  184. [17:02:52] <mkaply> JamieKnight: any chance you could give me a version of your page that takes the explicit properties of a contact? like name=foo,email=bar
  185. [17:03:18] <JamieKnight> what do you mean?
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  187. [17:03:48] <mkaply> JamieKnight: right now you expect a web page, and you use XSLT to get the info you need, right?
  188. [17:03:56] <JamieKnight> nope,
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  191. [17:04:41] <mkaply> ah. You create a CSV file which can then be imported into gmail.
  192. [17:04:49] <JamieKnight> right now it wants a page, then i use hKit to convert it to a vCard and then from there to CSV, its a bit of a kludge but this is a new version,
  193. [17:05:18] <JamieKnight> i have some ideas of where this could go,
  194. [17:06:23] <JamieKnight> i need to learn more about producing CSV file for gmail, at the moment i am "butering" somone else code for that section.
  195. [17:06:45] <mkaply> ah. So I could at least have operator produce a CSV for gmail directly.
  196. [17:07:02] <JamieKnight> yeah,
  197. [17:07:11] <mkaply> I wonder if I could even submit it behind the scens
  198. [17:07:17] <JamieKnight> sadly not,
  199. [17:07:24] <mkaply> form action="?view=fic" method=POST
  200. [17:07:30] <JamieKnight> if you mean get the CSV to goggle it wont work
  201. [17:07:33] <JamieKnight> session issues,
  202. [17:07:50] <mkaply> IT's not smart like yahoo, asking you to login?
  203. [17:08:07] <JamieKnight> i dont know the yahoo system,
  204. [17:08:11] <JamieKnight> but it give you a SUID
  205. [17:08:15] <JamieKnight> basically,
  206. [17:08:32] <JamieKnight> although, i have e-mailed google to ask if they would let me know any SPI details,
  207. [17:08:33] <mkaply> whenever you try to hit any yahoo service and the cookie is reset, yahoo will prompt you to login and continue where you left off. Really nice
  208. [17:08:46] * mkaply goes to run some errands. back in a bit
  209. [17:09:03] <JamieKnight> mkaply: yeah, gmail is the same, but it has a session number in the URL which i dont think i can replicate,
  210. [17:09:09] <mkaply> ah
  211. [17:09:15] <JamieKnight> i need to do some more devlopment on it,
  212. [17:09:19] <mkaply> yahoo does it magically. If you try an action with no sessionid, it logs you in
  213. [17:09:34] <JamieKnight> kewl,
  214. [17:10:02] <JamieKnight> it was a play around, if you can find a use for it feel free, if you want to help em develop it i would be really intrested in help!
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  236. [18:43:12] <jibot> bewest is Ben West and lives in San Francisco, CA. He daydreams about web style software, works at Alexa.com and blogs at http://bewest.wordpress.com/
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  241. [18:52:19] <monkinetic> factoryjoe: ping
  242. [18:52:28] <factoryjoe> yo
  243. [18:52:33] <monkinetic> hows life
  244. [18:52:35] <factoryjoe> fyi, microsoft working w/ openid community: http://rubyurl.com/tJU
  245. [18:53:13] <monkinetic> OMG, websense caught that "proxy avoidance!"
  246. [18:53:34] <factoryjoe> ?!
  247. [18:54:09] <monkinetic> oh, day job has websense going on
  248. [18:54:21] <monkinetic> and it blocked rubyrul as "proxy avoidance"
  249. [18:57:23] <monkinetic> stupid websense
  250. [18:58:39] <mfbot> [[citation-brainstorming-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=citation-brainstorming-fr&diff=0&oldid=13308 * ChristopheDucamp * (+2753) Contributeurs -
  251. [18:58:46] <factoryjoe> ah
  252. [18:58:51] <factoryjoe> http://kveton.com/blog/2007/02/06/cardspace-openid-working-together/
  253. [19:00:59] <mfbot> [[citation-brainstorming-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=citation-brainstorming-fr&diff=0&oldid=13309 * ChristopheDucamp * (+65) Voir aussi -
  254. [19:01:25] <bewest> yeah, websense sucks
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  259. [19:03:03] <factoryjoe> so, monkinetic, what's news?
  260. [19:03:23] <monkinetic> well, i started aon some XFN code for hat lifestream app
  261. [19:03:29] <monkinetic> right now it's a separte ruby script
  262. [19:03:54] <monkinetic> but it finds rel="me"s, checks each one for feeds (link rel="alt" right now) and lists them all
  263. [19:05:11] <factoryjoe> ooo
  264. [19:05:13] <factoryjoe> nice
  265. [19:06:19] <monkinetic> i've got a UI sketched out but right now my rails skills are teh suck. so i have not built it yet
  266. [19:07:14] <monkinetic> but the idea is: 1) enter url, hit tab 2) the app auto checks the url and drops in a list of feeds. 3) click to select and it saves that Source
  267. [19:07:32] <monkinetic> 4) app adds a new url field
  268. [19:08:01] <mfbot> [[citation-brainstorming-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=citation-brainstorming-fr&diff=0&oldid=13311 * ChristopheDucamp * (+428) Mise en Forme de Date -
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  270. [19:08:42] <jibot> danja is Danny Ayers, http://dannyayers.com
  271. [19:09:14] <factoryjoe> monkinetic: did i ever show you my rhyzomatic UI?
  272. [19:09:20] <monkinetic> nopes
  273. [19:09:27] <factoryjoe> ah
  274. [19:09:28] <factoryjoe> one sec
  275. [19:09:47] <monkinetic> i'm there
  276. [19:09:51] <monkinetic> all hail teh Goog
  277. [19:10:00] <factoryjoe> heh
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  279. [19:10:00] <jibot> TylerR is Tyler Roehmholdt and is brewing up something social.
  280. [19:10:15] <factoryjoe> http://www.flickr.com/photos/factoryjoe/tags/rhyzomatic
  281. [19:10:49] <monkinetic> is that real?
  282. [19:10:54] <monkinetic> or just teh shiny
  283. [19:11:11] <mfbot> [[citation-brainstorming-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=citation-brainstorming-fr&diff=0&oldid=13312 * ChristopheDucamp * (+2069) Structures de Citation Basiques -
  284. [19:12:17] <TylerR> ?forgetme
  285. [19:12:17] <jibot> I have expunged TylerR from my mind
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  287. [19:14:09] <factoryjoe> shiny
  288. [19:15:27] <mfbot> [[citation-brainstorming-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=citation-brainstorming-fr&diff=0&oldid=13313 * ChristopheDucamp * (+134) Concerns not addressed by existing formats -
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  298. [19:23:03] <jibot> iand is Ian Davis who blogs at http://iandavis.com/blog
  299. [19:24:43] <danja> factoryjoe, it would be nice if it could spit out foaf - see http://xmlns.com/foaf/0.1/#term_OnlineAccount
  300. [19:25:44] <cmessina> foaf?1
  301. [19:25:51] <cmessina> that's blasphemy in this channel!
  302. [19:26:00] <cmessina> how about xoxo + xfn?
  303. [19:26:02] <cmessina> +hcard?
  304. [19:26:12] <danja> +xslt ..?
  305. [19:26:17] * danja ducks
  306. [19:27:00] <danja> but yes - for sure, but is there a uF that covers online accounts yet?
  307. [19:27:07] <monkinetic> hCard
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  309. [19:27:32] <monkinetic> see the recent uf-discuss thread on rel="me self"
  310. [19:28:06] <monkinetic> each online account has an hcard that can point to your main hcard
  311. [19:29:15] <danja> not sure I get it - how would I say on my hcard that I have an account del.icio.us/danja?
  312. [19:29:34] <kingryan> xfn
  313. [19:29:39] <mfbot> [[citation-brainstorming-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=citation-brainstorming-fr&diff=0&oldid=13316 * ChristopheDucamp * (+299) Outstanding Issues -
  314. [19:30:06] <cmessina> rel-me
  315. [19:30:07] <monkinetic> danja: <a href="danja on delicious" rel="me">
  316. [19:30:19] <monkinetic> see http://redmonk.net/about-this-site
  317. [19:30:35] <cmessina> factoryjoe.com/blog/roll
  318. [19:30:38] <cmessina> gtg
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  320. [19:31:46] <danja> ah right
  321. [19:32:01] <monkinetic> it says "that's me too"
  322. [19:32:09] <mfbot> [[citation-brainstorming-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=citation-brainstorming-fr&diff=0&oldid=13317 * ChristopheDucamp * (+1822) schéma implicite (formats) -
  323. [19:32:10] <danja> pleasantly scruffy
  324. [19:32:38] <danja> works for me
  325. [19:33:48] <danja> hmm, are there any cases where it won't be an online account?
  326. [19:33:53] <danja> or similar
  327. [19:34:09] <danja> could you put a photo at the eend of it?
  328. [19:34:15] <mfbot> [[citation-brainstorming-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=citation-brainstorming-fr&diff=0&oldid=13318 * ChristopheDucamp * (+3063) Notes à propos des champs manquants / modifiés dans le schéma -
  329. [19:34:23] <monkinetic> hcard has a photo element
  330. [19:34:36] <monkinetic> see my about page again
  331. [19:34:45] <monkinetic> the pic has class="photo"
  332. [19:35:00] <monkinetic> http://microformats.org/wiki/hcard
  333. [19:35:11] <mfbot> [[citation-brainstorming-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=citation-brainstorming-fr&diff=0&oldid=13319 * ChristopheDucamp * (+4) Examples -
  334. [19:35:28] <monkinetic> depends on what you're trying to do
  335. [19:35:37] <mfbot> [[citation-brainstorming-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=citation-brainstorming-fr&diff=0&oldid=13320 * ChristopheDucamp * (+12) Exemples -
  336. [19:35:41] <monkinetic> is there a specific implementation you're trying to mimic?
  337. [19:36:33] <mfbot> [[citation-brainstorming-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=citation-brainstorming-fr&diff=0&oldid=13321 * ChristopheDucamp * (-1127) Exemple -
  338. [19:36:48] <danja> using the data as foaf (via grddl)
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  340. [19:39:33] <danja> (and save factoryjoe the trouble ;-)
  341. [19:40:39] <tantek> danja - perhaps you could help implement some foaf->hcard converters to help convert all that legacy content?
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  343. [19:41:23] <danja> it would make sense to expose foaf data as hcard, for sure
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  346. [19:44:34] <danja> in fact, see http://dannyayers.com/2006/07/04/foaf-to-hcard-via
  347. [19:45:27] <danja> got the t-shirt ;-)
  348. [19:46:13] <monkinetic> it's true that hcard is a bit light ACT foaf, but that's the intent
  349. [19:46:28] <monkinetic> hcard can be parsed insanely easily
  350. [19:46:39] <monkinetic> with a little html munging
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  363. [20:11:27] <mfbot> [[citation-brainstorming-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=citation-brainstorming-fr&diff=0&oldid=13328 * ChristopheDucamp * (+204) Schéma de travail Epouvantail -
  364. [20:14:17] <mfbot> [[citation-brainstorming-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=citation-brainstorming-fr&diff=0&oldid=13329 * ChristopheDucamp * (+2032) Citation d'un site web externe -
  365. [20:16:08] <mfbot> [[citation-brainstorming-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=citation-brainstorming-fr&diff=0&oldid=13330 * ChristopheDucamp * (-27) Structure XHTML -
  366. [20:16:24] <mfbot> [[citation-brainstorming-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=citation-brainstorming-fr&diff=0&oldid=13331 * ChristopheDucamp * (-1) Structure XHTML -
  367. [20:18:10] <mfbot> [[citation-brainstorming-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=citation-brainstorming-fr&diff=0&oldid=13332 * ChristopheDucamp * (+37) 'hcite' comme nom Elément Racine -
  368. [20:24:31] <mfbot> [[citation-brainstorming-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=citation-brainstorming-fr&diff=0&oldid=13333 * ChristopheDucamp * (+228) Discussion des éléments du Format Epouvantail -
  369. [20:26:51] <mfbot> [[citation-brainstorming-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=citation-brainstorming-fr&diff=0&oldid=13334 * ChristopheDucamp * (+110) Exemples dans la jungle -
  370. [20:28:37] <mfbot> [[citation-brainstorming-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=citation-brainstorming-fr&diff=0&oldid=13335 * ChristopheDucamp * (-23) Citer une publication de conférence -
  371. [20:30:58] <mfbot> [[citation-brainstorming-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=citation-brainstorming-fr&diff=0&oldid=13336 * ChristopheDucamp * (+3) Notes à propos des champs manquants / modifiés dans le schéma -
  372. [20:31:29] <mkaply> does the microformat spec allow for two microformats on the same DOM node?
  373. [20:31:39] <mfbot> [[citation-brainstorming-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=citation-brainstorming-fr&diff=0&oldid=13337 * ChristopheDucamp * (-3) Notes à propos des champs manquants / modifiés dans le schéma -
  374. [20:33:15] <mfbot> [[citation-brainstorming-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=citation-brainstorming-fr&diff=0&oldid=13338 * ChristopheDucamp * (+2) Schéma de travail Epouvantail -
  375. [20:34:16] <mfbot> [[citation-brainstorming-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=citation-brainstorming-fr&diff=0&oldid=13339 * ChristopheDucamp * (-1) Schéma de travail Epouvantail -
  376. [20:35:51] * bengee as wondering about that, too. "hreview hentry" sounds reasonable at least..
  377. [20:35:59] <bengee> s/as/was/
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  379. [20:37:52] <bengee> I couldn't find anything in the specs that suggests that dom nodes (e.g. via their id) could be used as global identifiers (as e.g. in eRDF)
  380. [20:38:46] <mkaply> I'm just wondering if given a DOM node you can use the class information to find what microformat it is. That would assume one microformat class name per node
  381. [20:39:17] <bengee> linkedIn publishes experiences as <li class="experience vevent vcard">, I had to step back from that idea for my parser...
  382. [20:39:22] <mfbot> [[citation-brainstorming-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=citation-brainstorming-fr&diff=0&oldid=13340 * ChristopheDucamp * (+118) Problèmes non résolus par les formats existants -
  383. [20:40:12] <mkaply> bengee: well that sucks
  384. [20:40:27] <mkaply> actually, I can make that work in Operator :)
  385. [20:40:56] * mkaply will just add two items to the context menu
  386. [20:41:08] <mfbot> [[citation-brainstorming-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=citation-brainstorming-fr&diff=0&oldid=13341 * ChristopheDucamp * (+5) Discussion sur la citation de Cas Légaux -
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  393. [20:51:45] <jibot> julianstahnke is Julian Stahnke and works for last.fm and implements microformats wherever he can
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  401. [21:37:47] <mfbot> [[presentations]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=presentations&diff=0&oldid=13345 * GlennJones * (+196)
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  407. [21:51:20] <TylerR> So, what's everyone up to today?
  408. [22:00:01] <mfbot> [[Main Page]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=Main_Page&diff=0&oldid=13346 * AsdfsdfGsdfsf * (+11044)
  409. [22:01:54] <TylerR> Woo, site defacement, got to love it. :\
  410. [22:03:51] <TylerR> Anyone know how to revert to the previous version?
  411. [22:04:34] <TylerR> I'm at work and don't really want to go visit the page.
  412. [22:04:47] <mfbot> [[Main Page]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=Main_Page&diff=0&oldid=13347 * RyanKing * (-11044) Reverted edit of AsdfsdfGsdfsf, changed back to last version by Drago516
  413. [22:05:02] <kingryan> like that :D
  414. [22:05:03] <mfbot> [[Special:Log/block]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=Special:Log/block&diff=0&oldid=0 * RyanKing * (+0) blocked "User:AsdfsdfGsdfsf" with an expiry time of indefinite: spam
  415. [22:05:20] <TylerR> Phew. :)
  416. [22:05:26] <bewest> TylerR: :-)
  417. [22:05:26] <bewest> p
  418. [22:05:29] <mfbot> [[book-brainstorming]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=book-brainstorming&diff=0&oldid=13348 * HOWCOME * (-265) added introduction, corrected some text
  419. [22:05:38] <bewest> all the ops have power to block
  420. [22:05:55] <TylerR> I saw that changelog and was like, "oh boy... can't go to wiki now", haha.
  421. [22:06:34] <DerrickPallas> phenominal wiki power
  422. [22:07:25] <mfbot> [[book-formats]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=book-formats&diff=0&oldid=13349 * HOWCOME * (+27) adding link to home page
  423. [22:07:29] <monkinetic> eeeeety-bitty-living-space
  424. [22:07:45] <TylerR> Is there a way where when editing the front-facing wiki page it goes through an approval processes?
  425. [22:08:03] <kingryan> no TylerR, and we don't want that
  426. [22:08:08] <kingryan> it's easier to just fight spam
  427. [22:08:11] * TylerR nods.
  428. [22:08:13] <TylerR> Righto.
  429. [22:08:32] <monkinetic> kingryan: did my post to uf-dev come through re XFN?
  430. [22:08:39] <monkinetic> (not seeing it here yet)
  431. [22:08:40] <bewest> might be easier if it got put in a time-delay queue
  432. [22:08:50] <kingryan> monkinetic == Steve Ivy?
  433. [22:08:55] <monkinetic> kingryan: yes
  434. [22:09:01] <monkinetic> ?def
  435. [22:09:02] <jibot> Braindump available at: http://an9.org/~jibot
  436. [22:09:08] <monkinetic> ?def monkinetic
  437. [22:09:08] <jibot> monkinetic is redmonk is SteveIvy is Steve Ivy - http://redmonk.net
  438. [22:09:17] <kingryan> I see it
  439. [22:09:18] <bewest> and then we can deny changes right from here if necessary
  440. [22:09:24] <bewest> like a 2 - 3 minute time delay
  441. [22:09:26] <monkinetic> thx
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  450. [23:31:18] <jibot> julianstahnke is Julian Stahnke and works for last.fm and implements microformats wherever he can
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