IRC Log for #microformats on 2007-02-07
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redmonk is Steve Ivy, http://redmonk.net and is linklogging at http://deliciouslymeta.com
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[[twitter-syntax]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=twitter-syntax&diff=0&oldid=13350 * Chris Messina * (+95) added whois command
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[[twitter-syntax]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=twitter-syntax&diff=0&oldid=13351 * Chris Messina * (+1)
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julianstahnke is Julian Stahnke and works for last.fm and implements microformats wherever he can
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[[media-info-examples]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=media-info-examples&diff=0&oldid=13352 * ManuSporny * (+7961) Added links to 72 music services to the examples section
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tantek is Tantek <http://tantek.com> and works on Technorati and develops microformats <http://microformats.org>
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Hey there tantek, how is WDN coming along?
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[[media-info-examples]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=media-info-examples&diff=0&oldid=13353 * ManuSporny * (+402) Notes on Existing Practices -
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[[media-info-examples]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=media-info-examples&diff=0&oldid=13354 * ManuSporny * (+35) Contributors -
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[[User:ManuSporny]] N http://microformats.org/wiki/User:ManuSporny * ManuSporny * (+315)
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[[media-info-examples]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=media-info-examples&diff=0&oldid=13355 * ManuSporny * (+713) Service Publishing of Music -
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tantek is Tantek <http://tantek.com> and works on Technorati and develops microformats <http://microformats.org>
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[[media-info-examples]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=media-info-examples&diff=0&oldid=13356 * ManuSporny * (+792) Service Publishing of Music -
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[[to-do]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=to-do&diff=0&oldid=13357 * PaulWilkins * (+44) Wait for confirmation from O'Reilly on ETel hCard update
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csarven is Sarven Capadisli and can be found online at http://www.csarven.ca
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[[media-info-examples]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=media-info-examples&diff=0&oldid=13358 * ManuSporny * (+22) Contributors -
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[[media-info-examples]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=media-info-examples&diff=0&oldid=13359 * ManuSporny * (+33) Contributors -
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[[media-info-examples]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=media-info-examples&diff=0&oldid=13360 * ManuSporny * (+1734) Service Publishing of Music -
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[[media-info-examples]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=media-info-examples&diff=0&oldid=13361 * ManuSporny * (+1618) Service Publishing of Music -
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[[media-info-examples]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=media-info-examples&diff=0&oldid=13362 * ManuSporny * (+176) Service Publishing of Music -
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bergie is lives in Finland and blogs at http://bergie.iki.fi/blog/ and Midgard CMS developer
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[[media-info-examples]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=media-info-examples&diff=0&oldid=13363 * ManuSporny * (+442) Notes on Existing Practices -
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[[twitter-syntax-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=twitter-syntax-fr&diff=0&oldid=13364 * ChristopheDucamp * (+1010) sync'd
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tantek is Tantek <http://tantek.com> and works on Technorati and develops microformats <http://microformats.org>
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Evening tantek.
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iand is Ian Davis who blogs at http://iandavis.com/blog
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bengee is Benjamin Nowack (http://bnode.org/)
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bergie is lives in Finland and blogs at http://bergie.iki.fi/blog/ and Midgard CMS developer
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Charl is Charl van Niekerk and writes about standards at http://standards.za.net/
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trovster is a web developer from the UK who writes on http://www.trovster.com and helps with www.multipack.co.uk
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[[book-brainstorming]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=book-brainstorming&diff=0&oldid=13365 * HOWCOME * (+7) Comparison with DocBook -
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[[hcard-brainstorming]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcard-brainstorming&diff=0&oldid=13366 * Wardm * (+152) Post vCard additions -
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iand is Ian Davis who blogs at http://iandavis.com/blog
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julianstahnke is Julian Stahnke and works for last.fm and implements microformats wherever he can
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tantek is Tantek <http://tantek.com> and works on Technorati and develops microformats <http://microformats.org>
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edsu is Ed Summers from the Library of Congress <http://www.inkdroid.org>
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briansuda is brian suda of http://suda.co.uk and is at (-0000 GMT) and is author of "Using Microformats" for O'Reilly [http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/microformats/]
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Mr_Elusive is not a programmer from id but makes his home at http://eswat.ca
- [14:21:59] <JamieKnight>
hiya briansuda
- [14:22:06] <briansuda>
hello
- [14:22:12] <JamieKnight>
I got my code working, i rewrote it with hKit,
- [14:22:39] <JamieKnight>
still VERY beta, but it works, i need to do some more work on adress, and ad phone number support,
- [14:24:03] <JamieKnight>
grab the bookkmarklet from www.jkg3.com/stuff
- [14:26:07] <briansuda>
very cool, i'll have to try it
- [14:26:15] <briansuda>
you should add it to the wiki
- [14:26:19] <JamieKnight>
it works okay,
- [14:26:28] <JamieKnight>
hmmm, i dont think it is far enough yet,
- [14:26:46] <JamieKnight>
it wont work quite often, and you still need to upload the CSV to gmail.
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- [14:31:01] <JamieKnight>
briansuda: how would i add it to the wiki
- [14:31:21] <briansuda>
you have to have an account
- [14:31:26] <briansuda>
and then just edit the page
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wiki/bookmarklets
- [14:31:38] <JamieKnight>
okay,
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http://microformats.org/wiki/bookmarklets
- [14:31:52] <JamieKnight>
should i do somthing to help get development on the go?
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- [14:33:50] <briansuda>
you can email the list about it and ask for suggestions, etc.
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are you a member of the dev list?'
- [14:34:05] <JamieKnight>
yes,
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i might do, soon.
- [14:35:15] <JamieKnight>
do i add to top or bottom of page?
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- [14:36:35] <briansuda>
add it where you want, are they alphabetcial?
- [14:36:49] <JamieKnight>
yeah,
- [14:37:01] <JamieKnight>
i will add it to the top as g is > l
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[[bookmarklets]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=bookmarklets&diff=0&oldid=13367 * JamieKnight * (+98)
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just writing a better article to go with the bookmarklet
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mkaply is Michael Kaply <http://www.kaply.com/weblog/> and is the developer of Operator <https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/4106/>
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ajturner is Andrew Turner, a simulation and geolocation nut who blogs at http://highearthorbit.com
- [15:20:50] <JamieKnight>
hiya mkaply
- [15:21:46] <mkaply>
JamieKnight: hey
- [15:21:59] <JamieKnight>
how be you mkaply
- [15:22:11] <mkaply>
excellent. I love rewriting my code for the umpteenth time.
- [15:22:15] <mkaply>
"This will be the last time, really"
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- [15:22:26] <JamieKnight>
hehe
- [15:22:32] <JamieKnight>
yeah, i know that feeling,
- [15:22:51] <JamieKnight>
hiya tantek
- [15:23:07] <jibot>
WizCraker is Caxi@Eitrigg, WoW, US, Alliance and Dustin D'Amour
- [15:23:32] <JamieKnight>
how do you get onto jibot
- [15:24:47] <mkaply>
jibot: help
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- [15:25:01] <JamieKnight>
thanks,
- [15:25:10] <JamieKnight>
jibot: help
- [15:25:55] <JamieKnight>
found some info on the wiki
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pnhChris is Chris Casciano, blogs at http://placenamehere.com/ , and a member of the Web Standards Project.
- [15:26:05] <mkaply>
JamieKnightO was just about to poitn you there
- [15:26:21] <JamieKnight>
thanks,
- [15:27:20] <JamieKnight>
?def JamieKnight, is a web developer based in the UK, keep his blog at http://jkg3.com
- [15:27:21] <jibot>
JamieKnight, is a web developer based in the UK, keep his blog at http://jkg3.com
- [15:27:38] <JamieKnight>
?def JamieKnight, is a web developer based in the UK, keeping his blog at http://jkg3.com
- [15:27:39] <jibot>
JamieKnight, is a web developer based in the UK, keep his blog at http://jkg3.com and a web developer based in the UK, keeping his blog at http://jkg3.com
- [15:28:47] <JamieKnight>
?forgetme
- [15:28:48] <jibot>
I have expunged JamieKnight from my mind
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?def JamieKnight, is a web developer based in the UK, keeping his blog at http://jkg3.com
- [15:28:56] <jibot>
JamieKnight, is a web developer based in the UK, keep his blog at http://jkg3.com and a web developer based in the UK, keeping his blog at http://jkg3.com and a web developer based in the UK, keeping his blog at http://jkg3.com
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?forgetme
- [15:29:12] <jibot>
I have expunged JamieKnight from my mind
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?def JamieKnight is jamie knight, a young web developer based in the UK. keeping his blog at http://jkg3.com
- [15:30:23] <jibot>
JamieKnight is jamie knight, a young web developer based in the UK. keeping his blog at http://jkg3.com
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hiya tantek
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Charl is Charl van Niekerk and writes about standards at http://standards.za.net/
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mlinksva is Mike Linksvayer and from Creative Commons
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danja is Danny Ayers, http://dannyayers.com
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hiya danja
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- [15:55:13] <danja>
hi JamieKnight
- [15:55:21] <JamieKnight>
how be you?
- [15:55:55] <danja>
pretty good, in need of coffee (got a telecon in 5mins)
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bengee is Benjamin Nowack (http://bnode.org/)
- [15:56:07] <JamieKnight>
kewl,
- [15:56:39] <JamieKnight>
i am not a fan of hot drinks, i assume you are?
- [16:01:16] <danja>
yup - coffee anyhow
- [16:01:56] <JamieKnight>
i find myself getting frustrated with hot drink, prefer leaning into my frisge and a nice glass of orange juice.
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- [16:03:41] <mfbot>
[[bookmarklets]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=bookmarklets&diff=0&oldid=13368 * JamieKnight * (+1)
- [16:17:14] <mkaply>
dumb philosophical question. is hCalendar the "name" of the microformat or the "type" of the microformat? Or some other word that better describes what it is?
- [16:19:06] <briansuda>
mkaply, what do you mean?
- [16:20:26] <mkaply>
briansuda: I'm way too much of a perfectionist when it comes to naming variables. So I was trying to think of the "right" term. If somone passes a list that contains "hCard, hCalendar, geo" have they passed me a list of microformat names or microformat types?
- [16:20:32] <mkaply>
I know I think about this stuff WAY too hard.
- [16:21:00] <mkaply>
That's why it takes me so long to write code :)
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- [16:21:45] <briansuda>
hm...
- [16:21:51] <briansuda>
i would say name
- [16:21:57] <briansuda>
the TYPE of GEO is KML, RSS
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JSON, etc
- [16:22:35] <mkaply>
I'm also naming public functions so I want them to be named "correct" - like getMicroformatNameFromElement
- [16:23:02] <mkaply>
actually getMicroformatNameFromNode
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- [16:27:32] <JamieKnight>
structure?
- [16:27:41] <JamieKnight>
is a microformat a structure?
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sreynen is Scott Reynen, who makes things at makedatamakesense.com
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briansuda: I'm assuming the vcard RFC allows for telephone numbers with no types
- [17:03:48] <briansuda>
sure
- [17:03:50] <briansuda>
and ADR
- [17:03:50] <mkaply>
briansuda: it appears that outlook 2003 doesn't like that
- [17:04:01] <mkaply>
it ignores those numbers
- [17:04:01] <briansuda>
the default is VOICE
- [17:04:21] * mkaply is discovering that Outlook 2003 sucks at vcards
- [17:04:38] <briansuda>
:)
- [17:04:50] <mkaply>
briansuda: is there any reason to try to be clever and say if fn=org, and there is one number, set the type to work or anything like that?
- [17:04:55] <briansuda>
it also has problems with URLs without TYPES and types are not part of URL
- [17:05:31] <briansuda>
well, the default is VOICE so we can always put that in if need be
- [17:05:43] <briansuda>
or with VISTA, will Outlook 2003 be history?
- [17:06:10] <mkaply>
briansuda: I hope so. I should probably just give up on outlook 2003 and install XP. I was using 2003 because some people had specific complaints
- [17:06:24] <mkaply>
I was thinking about having Export->Correct, Export->Outlook 2003
- [17:06:31] <briansuda>
you should also add that to the issues pages
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- [17:06:35] <mkaply>
But I think I would be catering to MS mistakes WAY too much :)
- [17:06:46] <JamieKnight>
is outlook XP any better?
- [17:07:10] <mkaply>
JamieKnight: not sure. I'm going to install it today. I was hoping to try to have both on the same machine, but Microsoft apps usually don't allow that.
- [17:07:25] <mkaply>
Of course Lotus Notes doesn't even take a VCF on the command line, so it's the worst of all.
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VMware?
- [17:07:33] <mkaply>
You have to explicitly import it from the address book
- [17:07:53] <JamieKnight>
i think that you can have more than 1 card in a vcf,
- [17:08:09] <JamieKnight>
so, how about producing two card inside the one file, one with the stuff for outlook one without?
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- [17:08:31] <JamieKnight>
its a kludge though,
- [17:08:39] <mkaply>
big time kludge :)
- [17:08:49] <JamieKnight>
hmm,
- [17:09:00] <JamieKnight>
is it possible to detect outlook?
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- [17:09:58] <mkaply>
Not at that point. I give it to the operating system. The user can choose whatever they want
- [17:10:17] <JamieKnight>
is it possible to use the same feature that auto open e-mail adresses in outlook to know that they have outlook set as thier defalt mail app,
- [17:10:35] <mkaply>
More trouble than it is worth :)
- [17:10:36] <JamieKnight>
IE: when i click on a mail to, it opens in outlook, maybe there is a way to test that action,
- [17:10:43] <JamieKnight>
yeah, i agree,
- [17:10:44] <mkaply>
I'll go the brian suda way - output to the RFC.
- [17:10:48] <JamieKnight>
an idea.......
- [17:10:56] <JamieKnight>
RFC>?
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- [17:11:16] <mkaply>
output to the spec.
- [17:11:22] <JamieKnight>
ah, okay,
- [17:11:28] <JamieKnight>
Request for comments?
- [17:11:43] * mkaply didn't realize there was an office 2007
- [17:12:07] <JamieKnight>
it the new office with the strange ribbon thing,
- [17:12:31] <JamieKnight>
gah, i think i need to restart, be back shortly.
- [17:12:47] <mkaply>
man they have way to many freaking versions of their software
- [17:13:15] <JamieKnight>
they have been going for 20 odd years minf,
- [17:13:26] <JamieKnight>
be a bit scary of they only got to version 2 in that time....
- [17:13:39] <JamieKnight>
they could do with some simplication though,
- [17:13:46] <JamieKnight>
anayway, brb
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JamieKnight is jamie knight, a young web developer based in the UK. keeping his blog at http://jkg3.com
- [17:26:33] <JamieKnight>
hiya,
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SamRose is found at http://smartmobs.com, http://communitywiki.org, http://blog.p2pfoundation.com, http://barcampbank.com, and http://cooperationcommons.com
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tantek, you around?
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tantek_ even
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tantek, got any suggestions for how to move the profile-uris deployment on?
- [17:51:20] <tantek>
a bit busy now - let's talk in a couple of days
- [17:51:25] <danja>
ok, sure
- [17:52:12] <danja>
fwiw, I don't personally care where the profiles end up, just as long as the uris are stable
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How's WDN going tantek?
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bewest is Ben West and lives in San Francisco, CA. He daydreams about web style software, works at Alexa.com and blogs at http://bewest.wordpress.com/
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its gone quiet again,
- [18:19:21] <TylerR>
Ah well, I'm guessing everyone have their work to get to. :)
- [18:21:48] <mfbot>
[[include-pattern-feedback]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=include-pattern-feedback&diff=0&oldid=13369 * WizardIsHungry * (+266) Objects and Browser Behavior -
- [18:22:24] <JamieKnight>
must be,
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sreynen is Scott Reynen, who makes things at makedatamakesense.com
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jcw9 is Jon Williams and can be found online at http://wizardishungry.com/blog/
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- [19:40:16] <mkaply>
bewest: ping
- [19:40:20] <bewest>
pong
- [19:40:35] <bewest>
mkaply: how can I help?
- [19:41:11] <mkaply>
bewest: I was thinking about your JSON stuff and I was wondering if you had given any thought to how you would define something like hReview where the item can be either an hCard, hCalendar, or just an fn with text
- [19:42:30] <bewest>
hmmmm
- [19:42:40] <bewest>
the answer is no, I have not
- [19:42:46] <bewest>
and am attempting to think about it now
- [19:43:22] <bewest>
my initial guess is that you could include them my reference
- [19:43:30] <bewest>
or verbosely, and that type would be "root"
- [19:44:16] <bewest>
mkaply: it's a good question. I suggest you write to the -dev list and try to highlight the question
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- [19:47:19] <mkaply>
are there other people actively thinking about the JSON idea besides you?
- [19:48:09] <bewest>
yes
- [19:48:20] <bewest>
I know Ryan King was thinking about it
- [19:48:26] <bewest>
for testing purposes
- [19:48:33] <bewest>
and there may be others
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- [19:49:06] <bewest>
and I haven't been thinking about it a whole lot lately
- [19:49:13] <bewest>
so getting input from others would be great
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- [19:59:50] <jibot>
kingryan is ryan king
- [20:00:59] <kingryan>
hey everyone
- [20:01:16] * kingryan is frustrated by "authoritative hcards" discussion on uf-discuss
- [20:02:17] <TylerR>
Huh, I really do need to get subscribed to that.
- [20:05:42] <badd>
virb
- [20:07:13] <badd>
never mind..;)
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danja is Danny Ayers, http://dannyayers.com
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[[rel-tag-issues]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=rel-tag-issues&diff=0&oldid=13370 * JamesCraig * (-1) Are tags case sensitive? - changed . to ?
- [20:25:22] <mfbot>
[[hcard-brainstorming]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcard-brainstorming&diff=0&oldid=13371 * MikeNZGovt * (+426) ISO/DIS 6709 -
- [20:26:36] <bewest>
kingryan: I don't want to continue bloating that thread on the list...
- [20:26:37] <bewest>
however...
- [20:26:46] <bewest>
As I'm sure you know, the scope of XFN is URLs, not parts of pages.
- [20:26:47] <bewest>
To change this would be non-trivial and is not likely to happen.
- [20:26:47] <bewest>
Plus, there are much simpler ways to solve this problem.
- [20:27:26] <bewest>
this actually stems from the rel-tag spec
- [20:27:32] <kingryan>
yeah?
- [20:27:32] <bewest>
which supports your claim
- [20:27:52] <bewest>
but contradicts other specs
- [20:27:57] <bewest>
such as hcard and hcalendar
- [20:27:59] <kingryan>
right, but xfn and rel-tag are unrelated
- [20:28:01] <jibot>
WizCraker is Caxi@Eitrigg, WoW, US, Alliance and Dustin D'Amour
- [20:28:06] <mkaply>
Is there a specific page for vCard Implementations? Like http://microformats.org/wiki/icalendar-implementations
- [20:28:47] <kingryan>
did you try http://microformats.org/wiki/vcard-implementations ?
- [20:29:04] <mkaply>
kingryan: No, I searched for vcard implementations and didn't find it. Duh :)
- [20:29:13] <kingryan>
that's how I just found it
- [20:29:30] <mkaply>
kingryan: That was very logical. Probably should have tried that first :)
- [20:29:49] * kingryan thinks we need better search for the website
- [20:30:09] <bewest>
kingryan: isn't it relatively trivial to add a google search for any site?
- [20:30:11] <TylerR>
kingryan: Have you looked into Rollyo?
- [20:30:19] <TylerR>
http://www.rollyo.com/
- [20:30:23] * kingryan writes search engines for a living
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- [20:30:30] <bewest>
;-)
- [20:30:33] <monkinetic>
i was just told that uf root classnames are valid as substrings of other classnames... i.e., if a classname has "vcard" as a substring ("revcard"?) it is to be considered a valid hcard root element. this seems... bizarre. can someone confirm or disconfirm this?
- [20:30:42] <kingryan>
no, no no
- [20:30:55] <kingryan>
that's so wrong it hurts
- [20:31:02] <monkinetic>
oh, god, good.
- [20:31:03] <TylerR>
Doh... well there goes my suggestion kingryan. ;)
- [20:31:06] <bewest>
monkinetic: that is a common problem with naive implementations of hcard parsers
- [20:31:15] <kingryan>
that's actually a common error with using xpath to find class names
- [20:31:22] <bewest>
monkinetic: it's likely that you heard that in the context of using xpath
- [20:31:55] <monkinetic>
ok, ok. i could not believe it myself.
- [20:32:09] <kingryan>
so anyway, bewest, I'm writing email now to propose a simpler hcard thingy
- [20:32:30] <bewest>
kingryan: yes, I think part of the problem is the group is focused around creating new formats instead of documenting techniques
- [20:32:41] <kingryan>
yes
- [20:32:48] <bewest>
so of course when newcomers arrive, the first thing they do is propose something new
- [20:32:53] <kingryan>
we need to better document our experiments
- [20:33:06] <kingryan>
we also need to add tantek's new requirement to the process
- [20:33:18] <bewest>
I outlined this in an admin thread, however no one responded; probably too busy
- [20:33:30] <kingryan>
yeah, too busy
- [20:33:37] <kingryan>
anyway, lunchtime, bbiab
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- [20:37:23] <DerrickPallas>
What are the new requirements?
- [20:41:57] <mfbot>
[[icalendar-implementations]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=icalendar-implementations&diff=0&oldid=13372 * MikeKaply * (-402) iCalendar implementations -
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[[vcard-implementations]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=vcard-implementations&diff=0&oldid=13373 * MikeKaply * (+331) Microsoft Outlook -
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amanuel is Amanuel, the social ambassador at http://otavo.com
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markp is Mark Pilgrim
- [21:26:12] <kingryan>
mkaply: http://microformats.org/wiki/hcard#Plural_Properties_Singularized
- [21:26:48] <mkaply>
kingryan: The wiki knows all
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- [21:28:34] <kingryan>
well, not all, but more that most of us
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[[hcard-examples-in-wild]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcard-examples-in-wild&diff=0&oldid=13374 * SteveIvy * (+130) New Examples - Add Steve Ivy hCard, redmonk.net
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[[rel-tag]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=rel-tag&diff=0&oldid=13375 * EdwardOConnor * (+8) Examples in the Wild - s/EVDB/Eventful/
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- [22:06:25] <jibot>
bergie is lives in Finland and blogs at http://bergie.iki.fi/blog/ and Midgard CMS developer
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- [22:10:50] <kingryan>
new new mailing list: http://microformats.org/discuss/#new
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- [22:15:46] <hober>
That reminds me, is there any reason why µf-dev isn't on gmane?
- [22:16:06] <kingryan>
hober: no idea. dunno who set that up
- [22:16:21] <hober>
IIRC I had tried to add it when it was a closed list, which didn't work -- now that it's open is there any reason for me not to submit it?
- [22:16:32] <kingryan>
not that I can think of
- [22:16:46] <hober>
ok; will do
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- [22:20:25] <hober>
done
- [22:20:49] <hober>
subscription requests usually get taken care of within 48 hours or so
- [22:20:53] <hober>
If anyone has an mbox archive of µf-dev, past discussions could be imported into gmane like so: http://gmane.org/import.php
- [22:22:58] <hober>
I'll add -new too
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- [22:31:01] <kingryan>
I think there's mbox archives in the web archives
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- [22:37:38] <jibot>
JamieKnight is jamie knight, a young web developer based in the UK. keeping his blog at http://jkg3.com
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- [22:38:01] <JamieKnight>
hiya
- [22:38:26] <kingryan>
hi JamieKnight
- [22:38:35] <JamieKnight>
hiya ryan,
- [22:38:39] <JamieKnight>
how are you?@
- [22:38:43] <kingryan>
good
- [22:38:46] <kingryan>
you?
- [22:39:11] <JamieKnight>
i am okay,
- [22:39:21] <JamieKnight>
I have just finsihed a new design for my site which i like,
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- [22:43:56] * TylerR mutters about having horrible name branding luck.
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- [22:44:02] <jibot>
danja is Danny Ayers, http://dannyayers.com
- [22:44:25] * JamieKnight give TylerR some luck, and unbad
- [22:45:45] <TylerR>
Hah thanks JamieKnight.
- [22:45:57] <JamieKnight>
your welcome
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- [22:51:32] <jibot>
jcw9 is Jon Williams and can be found online at http://wizardishungry.com/blog/
- [22:52:05] <JamieKnight>
hiya jcw9
- [22:52:17] <jcw9>
Hello. :D
- [22:52:30] <JamieKnight>
how be you?
- [22:53:00] <jcw9>
i am feeling sick
- [22:53:35] <JamieKnight>
thats not, good,
- [22:53:40] <JamieKnight>
do you know why?
- [22:55:08] <jcw9>
Just a cold; nyc is miserable this time of year
- [22:55:21] <JamieKnight>
ah, you are in New York?
- [22:55:28] <jcw9>
yepppppp
- [22:55:37] <JamieKnight>
I would love to go and visit New York, i am in somerset, UK
- [22:57:05] <jcw9>
Oh, one branch of my family is from Castle Cary
- [22:57:26] <jcw9>
at some point or another
- [22:57:27] <JamieKnight>
awesome,
- [22:57:31] <JamieKnight>
small world,
- [22:57:46] <JamieKnight>
I use to live in cary, i am in Taunton atm,
- [22:59:17] <jcw9>
ha
- [22:59:40] <jcw9>
Its very weird because all these places have american versions where i grew up
- [23:00:16] <JamieKnight>
kewl,
- [23:00:21] <JamieKnight>
must be very strange,
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- [23:00:38] <jcw9>
I've only really visited Norwich though
- [23:00:46] <jcw9>
I had a friend at UEA
- [23:01:30] <JamieKnight>
sounds kewl,
- [23:01:36] <JamieKnight>
i have never been to the US,
- [23:01:45] <JamieKnight>
a few things getting in the way, but i hope to someday,
- [23:01:59] <JamieKnight>
i am intrested in going to SXSW but i need to wait till i am older,
- [23:02:56] <jcw9>
How old are you?
- [23:03:09] <JamieKnight>
i am 17,
- [23:03:14] <jcw9>
We were joking at work about going to the web track there on work budget
- [23:03:25] <JamieKnight>
sounds good,
- [23:03:30] <JamieKnight>
my boss goes each year,
- [23:03:48] <JamieKnight>
i supose one day i might go with him, depends on wher ei living ect.
- [23:04:09] <jcw9>
I've never been
- [23:04:19] <bewest>
http://bewest.wordpress.com/2007/02/07/microformats-new-mailing-list/
- [23:04:44] <bewest>
I think wordpress made the font smaller on me
- [23:04:57] <JamieKnight>
hiya bewesy
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- [23:05:54] <bewest>
hi :-)
- [23:06:02] <JamieKnight>
got to love firefox Ctrl +
- [23:06:13] <bewest>
true
- [23:06:19] <bewest>
but I shouldn't have to
- [23:06:23] <bewest>
and most users won't know how
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- [23:06:33] <JamieKnight>
true,
- [23:06:34] <mkaply>
Is there a general opinion on whether ISO dates should have dashes and colons - I know the spec supports either, but is there a "preferred" way?
- [23:06:38] <bewest>
most adults will have trouble reading that
- [23:06:43] <JamieKnight>
yeah,
- [23:06:50] <JamieKnight>
i had trouble, but thats my display,
- [23:07:03] <kingryan>
mkaply: I prefer to have the punctuation
- [23:07:08] <JamieKnight>
(dell inspiron 9100 at 1920 x 1200 on 15.4" display)
- [23:07:46] <jcw9>
mkaply, I always see dashes delimiting yyyy-mm-dd
- [23:07:58] <mkaply>
kingryan: I know that webservices I found want them removed (yahoo and google), so I was trying to figure out if I should store with punctuation and remove when those services are called or remove them in the code that sends it to the service
- [23:08:13] <mkaply>
So then should I punctuation if they aren't present? :)
- [23:08:42] <jcw9>
I find it a bit of a pita to human-read date strings without it
- [23:08:45] <mkaply>
eventful for example doesn't use punctuation.
- [23:08:48] <jcw9>
esp if concatted with time
- [23:09:05] <JamieKnight>
i find dashs easier, but, i supose it doesent depends on each person
- [23:09:20] * mkaply guesses it's not as hard to add the punctuation as I thought in cases where it isn't there.
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- [23:09:48] <JamieKnight>
would be simple, yeah, and i supose it make it more human readable, so i supose it is a good idea,
- [23:10:19] <jcw9>
mkaply, have you seen people doing week-number date formats anywhere? I just saw that on an iso 8601 info page
- [23:10:54] <jcw9>
And putting delimiters in lets me crap together some perl to rip it apart again much faster
- [23:11:09] <mkaply>
jcw9: bleah. No I haven't seen that. Interesting
- [23:11:10] <jcw9>
Although everyone should just use strtotime or something
- [23:11:25] <jcw9>
I doubt its in the wild!
- [23:11:26] <mkaply>
I guess to avoid that "months are in a different place in different countries" thing
- [23:11:26] <jcw9>
1997-W01-2 or 1997W012
- [23:11:30] <JamieKnight>
jcw9: week number is quite a simple date caculation, so why put it into the data?
- [23:11:46] <jcw9>
god knows
- [23:12:15] <jcw9>
mkaply, do you know John Resig?
- [23:12:47] <mkaply>
jcw9: he said I did :)
- [23:12:56] <jcw9>
ha!
- [23:13:11] <mkaply>
Seriously, I don't know him personally, but we chatted about Operator when it came out
- [23:13:15] <JamieKnight>
i would think that it would not be a good idea to keep the calender date/month ect, apart fomr the basic data,
- [23:13:21] <jcw9>
I dated his girlfriend/fiance in college (small world!) and noticed he said something about you somewhere
- [23:13:32] <JamieKnight>
but that is one of the arguments for timestamps,
- [23:13:44] <mkaply>
Everyone at work joked about that post because it sounded like we were best buds
- [23:13:48] <mfbot>
[[journal-brainstorming]] N http://microformats.org/wiki/journal-brainstorming * HOWCOME * (+484) started page on journal publishing
- [23:14:12] <JamieKnight>
mkaply: where do you work?
- [23:14:17] <JamieKnight>
Ex IBM?
- [23:14:30] <mkaply>
current IBM
- [23:14:38] <JamieKnight>
kewl, what are you doing with them?
- [23:14:46] <JamieKnight>
any intresting products,
- [23:14:59] <mkaply>
I'm the Firefox lead for IBM.
- [23:15:03] <mfbot>
[[journal-brainstorming]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=journal-brainstorming&diff=0&oldid=13376 * HOWCOME * (+42) Background -
- [23:15:06] <mkaply>
I own all of our Firefox work and advocacy
- [23:15:20] <JamieKnight>
sounds kewl,
- [23:16:07] <JamieKnight>
I work with a local company, i do a bit of evrything, from microformats to design and learning softwre,
- [23:16:27] <JamieKnight>
i enjoy it alot, and am lucky i have an understanding boss (i have autism)
- [23:16:33] <jcw9>
aspie?
- [23:16:39] <mfbot>
[[journal-brainstorming]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=journal-brainstorming&diff=0&oldid=13377 * HOWCOME * (+20) Background -
- [23:16:49] <JamieKnight>
yeah,
- [23:16:52] <JamieKnight>
well, HFA
- [23:16:54] <jcw9>
yea
- [23:16:55] <mfbot>
[[journal-brainstorming]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=journal-brainstorming&diff=0&oldid=13378 * HOWCOME * (+2) Background -
- [23:17:01] <jcw9>
its very common in technical fields
- [23:17:05] <JamieKnight>
yeah,
- [23:17:08] <jcw9>
probably quite a few people undiagnosed
- [23:17:14] <JamieKnight>
definitly,
- [23:17:31] <JamieKnight>
i have a few "bits" that make things difficult,
- [23:18:09] <JamieKnight>
I am lucky that i have a very understanding boss,
- [23:18:26] <mfbot>
[[journal-formats]] N http://microformats.org/wiki/journal-formats * HOWCOME * (+176) created page on journal formats
- [23:19:15] <JamieKnight>
jcw9: do you have any aspies working with you?
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[[events]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=events&diff=0&oldid=13379 * Tantek * (+63) adjusted WDN microformats entry for latest rescheduling.
- [23:20:31] <jcw9>
No, I'm actually the only person from a traditional technical background. My boss and our graphic designer were drama majors
- [23:20:58] <mfbot>
[[journal-formats]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=journal-formats&diff=0&oldid=13380 * HOWCOME * (+80) added list of formats
- [23:21:01] <JamieKnight>
thats intresting,
- [23:22:06] <jcw9>
And I'm in the school of "Culture, Education and Human Development" at NYU so its a pretty unusual job
- [23:22:18] <JamieKnight>
sounds intresting,
- [23:22:19] <mfbot>
[[journal-formats]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=journal-formats&diff=0&oldid=13381 * HOWCOME * (+56) added link to NLM
- [23:22:42] <JamieKnight>
i am not in education at the moment, due to a lack of somewhere to live, but i hope to be going back to education in the summer,
- [23:26:33] <jcw9>
Its essentially the professional school: drama and physical therapy, applied psych, music, art, and education (teaching teacher stuff)
- [23:26:53] <JamieKnight>
sounds intresting,
- [23:27:16] <JamieKnight>
I did part of a dgree (BSc) with the Ou a few years ago,
- [23:28:22] <JamieKnight>
it got inturupted, i live in fostercare, and i got to 16, so i had to start leaving care. I will go back to it when i have somwhere stable to live,
- [23:28:31] <JamieKnight>
anyway back to micrformats!
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[[events/2007-02-07-web-directions-north]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=events/2007-02-07-web-directions-north&diff=0&oldid=13382 * Tantek * (+137)
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tantek is Tantek <http://tantek.com> and works on Technorati and develops microformats <http://microformats.org>
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[[hcard-examples-in-wild]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcard-examples-in-wild&diff=0&oldid=13383 * RobCottingham * (+221) Examples -
- [23:39:32] <JamieKnight>
hiya tantek
- [23:43:38] <TylerR>
I think I found my solution to my domain issue.
- [23:43:46] <JamieKnight>
kewl,
- [23:44:00] <TylerR>
I put the company taxonomy team to the task of coming up with ideas tonight when they're off work. :)
- [23:44:13] <TylerR>
Nothing like utilizing free resources. :)
- [23:45:12] <JamieKnight>
what is the comapny you work for?
- [23:45:50] <TylerR>
I work for a marketing, creative, and technology consulting company.
- [23:46:27] <JamieKnight>
isent taxonomy the scintific classification of animals?
- [23:46:31] <JamieKnight>
ect.
- [23:49:53] <TylerR>
It is also, "controlled vocabulary used primarily for the creation of navigation structures for websites. Often based on a thesaurus, but may have shallower hierarchies and less structure, for example, no related terms."
- [23:50:17] <TylerR>
Examples include metadata keywords and such.
- [23:50:29] <JamieKnight>
kewl, hadent heard that definition
- [23:50:51] <TylerR>
It's a crucial team to have when managing enterprise intranets.
- [23:50:57] <JamieKnight>
i didnt see it on the wiki page,
- [23:51:17] <JamieKnight>
hmm, i work in a VERY small comapny so we dont have "teams"
- [23:53:31] <TylerR>
Ah righto.
- [23:54:47] <JamieKnight>
i find it intresting though how different companies do things,
- [23:55:30] <TylerR>
Yeah definitely. We have 300+ people though so we can afford to specialize quite nicely.
- [23:55:44] <TylerR>
I'd like to become the company microformats go-to guy. :)
- [23:56:24] <JamieKnight>
i am the company microformats guy i supose,
- [23:57:05] <JamieKnight>
so, do you have "compitiion amoung the web people in the area of microformats"
- [23:58:08] <TylerR>
Nope. No one else around here knows anything about it.
- [23:58:23] <JamieKnight>
kewl,
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- [23:58:53] * kingryan is not the go-to guy for mf's at his company :D
- [23:59:06] <JamieKnight>
I am in a similar position, althoug, alun is very knowlagable, so we work together,
- [23:59:35] <TylerR>
Good stuff.
- [23:59:53] <JamieKnight>
he has far more experience than me, he has been making website for more years than i have been verbal!
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