IRC Log for #microformats on 2007-02-21

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  19. [03:24:08] <mfbot> [[events/2006-03-12-sxsw-growth-evolution-of]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=events/2006-03-12-sxsw-growth-evolution-of&diff=0&oldid=13654 * Tantek * (+40) confirmed final panelist additions of Michael and Glenn
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  31. [04:59:09] <Lachy> > is it possible to markup up just a time without a date, using the datetime design pattern? e.g. is <abbr class="datetime" title="07:00+10:00">7am</abbr> ok, or does it need to be a full ISO-8601 date and time?
  32. [05:43:01] <mfbot> [[abbr-design-pattern-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=abbr-design-pattern-fr&diff=0&oldid=13655 * ChristopheDucamp * (+13) error fixed : 10h00 vs 22:00 (to be reviewed)
  33. [05:47:52] <mfbot> [[events-fr/2006-03-12-sxsw-growth-evolution-of]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=events-fr/2006-03-12-sxsw-growth-evolution-of&diff=0&oldid=13656 * ChristopheDucamp * (+61) sync'd (time + panel)
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  59. [09:25:16] <mfbot> [[hreview-ja]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hreview-ja&diff=0&oldid=13658 * KoichiWada * (+1041) Format - In General, Format Details version-reviewer
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  65. [09:40:07] <mfbot> [[User:KoichiWada]] N http://microformats.org/wiki/User:KoichiWada * KoichiWada * (+72)
  66. [09:41:33] <mfbot> [[Main Page-ja]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=Main_Page-ja&diff=0&oldid=13659 * KoichiWada * (+3) link to hreview -> hreview-jp
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  82. [10:28:35] <mfbot> [[Accessibility]] MN http://microformats.org/wiki/Accessibility * T1mmyb * (+27) Redirect to accessibility
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  208. [19:04:50] <epeus> did anyone look at my xoxo to json translators?
  209. [19:05:17] <kingryan> epeus: responding to the email now
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  218. [19:27:24] <julianstahnke> I wanna mark up shoutboxes on last.fm as hAtom, does anyone think that would be a good idea?
  219. [19:27:33] <julianstahnke> someone is writing a dashboard widget, so he would love it
  220. [19:28:12] <AGraf``> from what i can see, it should work perfectly
  221. [19:28:14] <bewest> yeah, seems like a good idea to me... does the shoutbox have an URL to just the shoutbox?
  222. [19:28:21] <julianstahnke> yes
  223. [19:28:23] <julianstahnke> that is the problem
  224. [19:28:28] <bewest> yeah, it's a good idea
  225. [19:28:46] <julianstahnke> I couldn't possibly build in rel="bookmark"
  226. [19:28:53] <julianstahnke> because there is no permalink for shouts
  227. [19:28:57] <AGraf``> http://www.last.fm/user/rantingkitten/shoutbox/ ?
  228. [19:29:04] <AGraf``> um
  229. [19:29:05] <AGraf``> well
  230. [19:29:07] <AGraf``> username
  231. [19:29:11] <julianstahnke> yeah, but that wouldn't be for individual entries
  232. [19:29:16] <julianstahnke> or shouts, rather
  233. [19:29:28] <AGraf``> that shouldn't matter
  234. [19:29:34] <julianstahnke> ah!
  235. [19:29:35] <AGraf``> http://www.last.fm/user/user/shoutbox/#1
  236. [19:29:36] <AGraf``> http://www.last.fm/user/user/shoutbox/#2
  237. [19:29:51] <julianstahnke> does the bookmark have to be unique?
  238. [19:29:54] <AGraf``> use fragments
  239. [19:29:58] <AGraf``> well, it should
  240. [19:30:01] <julianstahnke> also, what happens when the shout dissappears?
  241. [19:30:17] <AGraf``> hmmm
  242. [19:30:30] <bewest> is there a need to make them dissapear?
  243. [19:30:32] <AGraf``> then it wouldnt show up in the hAtom feed anyway i guess
  244. [19:30:42] <bewest> yeah... things roll off syndication feeds anyway
  245. [19:30:42] <julianstahnke> actually, in this context, for the usecases, it wouldn't matter I guess
  246. [19:32:59] <AGraf``> the hatom feed isn't cached
  247. [19:33:13] <AGraf``> and once the shouts become invisible, they won't show up in the feed
  248. [19:33:20] <AGraf``> so you'll be fine with fragments
  249. [19:34:16] <julianstahnke> kk
  250. [19:34:28] <AGraf``> julianstahnke: you could also use hReview for artist/album reviews
  251. [19:34:46] <julianstahnke> I know, I have plans, but at the moment it's a tricky one with the templates and stuff
  252. [19:35:04] <AGraf``> i guess it always is :)
  253. [19:35:14] <julianstahnke> hatom, does the hcard element need to be *inside* the author element?
  254. [19:35:24] <julianstahnke> or can it be class="hcard author"?
  255. [19:36:36] <AGraf``> vcard
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  257. [19:36:43] <julianstahnke> yeah, right
  258. [19:36:44] <mfbot> [[citation-examples]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=citation-examples&diff=0&oldid=13662 * JeremyBoggs * (+671) Citation of an Online Resource -
  259. [19:36:46] <AGraf``> <address class="vcard author"> is valid
  260. [19:36:52] <AGraf``> and works with hatom
  261. [19:36:56] <julianstahnke> awesome, cheers
  262. [19:37:03] <AGraf``> anytime
  263. [19:38:35] <julianstahnke> bummer, I need a title
  264. [19:38:48] <AGraf``> Use the date as a title
  265. [19:38:55] <julianstahnke> I wanna use that as a date ;)
  266. [19:39:04] <AGraf``> use it as both
  267. [19:39:31] <AGraf``> date and title
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  269. [19:39:48] <AGraf``> atom and subsequently hAtom require both a title _and_ a date
  270. [19:39:54] <AGraf``> afk
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  272. [19:43:20] <julianstahnke> can I use elements inside the hcard as title?
  273. [19:49:49] <mfbot> [[citation-examples-markup]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=citation-examples-markup&diff=0&oldid=13663 * JeremyBoggs * (+1108) Wikipedia U.S. Patent -
  274. [19:50:08] <julianstahnke> awesome, I got my shoutbox as rss feed in my feedreader
  275. [19:51:40] <mfbot> [[citation-examples]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=citation-examples&diff=0&oldid=13664 * JeremyBoggs * (+103) Citation of an Online Resource -
  276. [19:53:39] <KevinMarks> cool
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  301. [21:12:03] <mfbot> [[directions]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=directions&diff=0&oldid=13666 * Tantek * (-1)
  302. [21:14:04] <mfbot> [[events/2006-06-13-where-2-bof]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=events/2006-06-13-where-2-bof&diff=0&oldid=13667 * Tantek * (+14) added Newton Chan who I met again at Lunch 2.0, who was there
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  334. [23:07:34] <vbgunz> I am almost through with all of hCards properties but am somewhat stuck on 3 of them. sound, label and key... I'll ask what I think should be the easiest of the three. is "label" meant to only abbreviate the "adr" type values of dom|home|etc?
  335. [23:09:25] <vbgunz> I got it
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  340. [23:37:03] <vbgunz> my conclusion is involving the hCard, the "label" property is redundant and unnecessary... could it not be completely duplicated <abbr..> and all inside the "adr" under "type"?
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  346. [23:43:55] <kingryan> hey anyone wanna give me a hand for a second?
  347. [23:44:54] <kingryan> I need to find places on 2007.sxsw.com that could use some microformatting
  348. [23:56:15] <mkaply> every concert here
  349. [23:56:15] <mkaply> http://2007.sxsw.com/music/showcases/date/2007-03-14.html
  350. [23:56:25] <mkaply> every film here
  351. [23:56:26] <mkaply> http://2007.sxsw.com/film/screenings/date/2007-03-09.html
  352. [23:56:55] <mkaply> events here
  353. [23:56:56] <mkaply> http://2007.sxsw.com/interactive/evening_events/
  354. [23:57:16] <Prometheus^> I wish I could go to sxsw :(
  355. [23:57:26] <Prometheus^> if I were still living in states, texas specifically, I most definitely would
  356. [23:57:45] * mkaply didn't realize there were so many parties. What will my wife think
  357. [23:58:01] <Prometheus^> mkaply: what mamma don't know won't hurt her
  358. [23:58:14] <kingryan> mkaply: does she know about flickr?
  359. [23:58:31] <mkaply> "but they are work parties honey"
  360. [23:59:05] <kingryan> but if she sees the photos...
  361. [23:59:38] <mkaply> I'll just block flickr on her machine
  362. [23:59:47] <Prometheus^> "screenshot or didn't happen"
  363. [23:59:49] <mkaply> "they lost all funding and went out of business. Really"
  364. [23:59:53] <mkaply> yahoo shut them down

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