IRC Log for #microformats on 2007-02-22

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  1. [00:08:40] <vbgunz> yahoo shut who down?
  2. [00:08:45] * vbgunz nosy
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  4. [00:09:12] <Prometheus^> vbgunz: flickr
  5. [00:09:35] <Prometheus^> mkaply is just planning to what to tell his wife when she gets nosy about the sxsw pictures
  6. [00:09:36] <Prometheus^> ;)
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  9. [00:09:44] <vbgunz> get out of here... really? I never used flickr *but* heard it was like one of the greatest photo sites ever...
  10. [00:11:45] <Prometheus^> vbgunz: we kid, it's not out of business, really
  11. [00:12:15] <vbgunz> I went to the homepage to see any excuses made, it seems operational... heh
  12. [00:13:41] <Prometheus^> ;)
  13. [00:14:49] <KevinMarks> well, there's zooomr too
  14. [00:14:55] <KevinMarks> that thomashawk gets everywhere
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  17. [00:19:54] <JamieKnight> hiya,
  18. [00:22:16] <bewest> hey
  19. [00:23:46] <JamieKnight> how be you
  20. [00:23:56] <woodss> hi
  21. [00:24:02] * JamieKnight has a stupid question and an angery point
  22. [00:24:04] <JamieKnight> hiya woodss
  23. [00:24:47] <KevinMarks> ask your stupid question, get a stupid answer
  24. [00:25:05] <JamieKnight> stupid question in the county-name can i use an abriviation.
  25. [00:25:16] <JamieKnight> IE: united kingdom to UK
  26. [00:25:56] <kingryan> JamieKnight: sure
  27. [00:25:56] <JamieKnight> the reason why i ask is that hKit seems to remove the space betweens the words? and a few people have mentioned it to me.
  28. [00:26:12] <JamieKnight> i had a feeling i could, but i though i would check,
  29. [00:27:07] <kingryan> you could do <abbr class="country-name" title="United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland">UK</abbr>
  30. [00:27:19] <JamieKnight> okay,
  31. [00:27:29] <JamieKnight> thanks for the advice, that seems to make more sense.
  32. [00:28:35] * JamieKnight is annoyed he was booted from #web while trying to explain somthing.
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  44. [01:13:50] <JamieKnight> hiya tommorris
  45. [01:13:54] <JamieKnight> hiya mkaply
  46. [01:14:30] <tommorris> Hey folks
  47. [01:14:38] <JamieKnight> how be you tommorris
  48. [01:14:46] <JamieKnight> is you blog kid666?
  49. [01:14:50] <tommorris> Pretty good. Just got back from Geek Dinner.
  50. [01:14:59] <JamieKnight> what is a greek dinner?
  51. [01:15:01] <tommorris> No, that's Tom Crouchers. Mine is blogs.opml.org/tommorris
  52. [01:15:16] <JamieKnight> ah,
  53. [01:15:16] <tommorris> Geek Dinner is where a bunch of geeks go to a pub, eat, drink and be merry.
  54. [01:15:26] <JamieKnight> ahh,
  55. [01:15:28] <mfbot> [[xfn-implementations]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=xfn-implementations&diff=0&oldid=13671 * RyanKing * (+80) added wink
  56. [01:15:30] <JamieKnight> geek not greek
  57. [01:15:45] <JamieKnight> i was wondering whya big group of greekwould randomly appear in a pub.
  58. [01:15:56] <JamieKnight> sounds good,
  59. [01:16:03] <JamieKnight> sounds like the oxford geek meet.
  60. [01:16:21] <tommorris> Yup, quite similar, but in London
  61. [01:16:29] <JamieKnight> kewl,
  62. [01:16:39] <JamieKnight> I am hoping to go to one of these event somtime,
  63. [01:16:43] <tommorris> Most of the folks had just been at Future of Web Apps
  64. [01:16:53] <JamieKnight> need to work on social skills some first,
  65. [01:16:55] <tommorris> Next Wednesday there is an event in London on web accesibility
  66. [01:17:02] <JamieKnight> yeah, i was looking at that £59 is a prime numbers,
  67. [01:17:10] <JamieKnight> number rather,
  68. [01:17:19] <JamieKnight> ...53,59,61...
  69. [01:17:31] <tommorris> Oh, that's the Future of Web Design which is far more affordable than Future of Web Apps
  70. [01:17:40] <JamieKnight> ah,
  71. [01:17:47] <JamieKnight> i though they were the same things
  72. [01:17:53] <JamieKnight> opps,
  73. [01:18:17] <JamieKnight> I would like to go to a barcamp, but i have a feeling i might need to wait a year to be of legal age
  74. [01:18:36] <JamieKnight> ( i assume you need to be 18 years old for insurence reason in a large building)
  75. [01:19:23] * bewest doubts it
  76. [01:19:45] <JamieKnight> no, do you think its okay to go to a barcamp at 17?
  77. [01:22:00] <tommorris> Course you can go at 17. There was someone at BC London2 that looked like they were 16/17
  78. [01:22:08] <JamieKnight> kewl,
  79. [01:22:26] <JamieKnight> now, its just logistic, and perswading alun to go....
  80. [01:23:22] <KevinMarks> my boys came to the firsr barcamp and they were 9 and 10
  81. [01:23:40] <JamieKnight> kewl,
  82. [01:23:48] * JamieKnight wonders when the next one is
  83. [01:24:04] <KevinMarks> also tagcamp
  84. [01:24:05] <KevinMarks> http://www.flickr.com/photos/laughingsquid/57099659/
  85. [01:24:26] <KevinMarks> http://www.flickr.com/photos/pinhole/57091835/
  86. [01:24:41] <JamieKnight> is that magic the gathering?
  87. [01:25:34] <tommorris> Werewolf, more likely.
  88. [01:26:03] <KevinMarks> yes, they brought magic
  89. [01:26:07] <KevinMarks> and Civ
  90. [01:26:13] <JamieKnight> i use to be very intrested in magic,
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  92. [01:26:38] <JamieKnight> combination of aspieness, and not understanding the concept of pokemon,
  93. [01:26:42] * tommorris is not a werewolf
  94. [01:27:29] <JamieKnight> KevinMarks: you kids must win any playground "my dad is a.. " compitition
  95. [01:30:35] <KevinMarks> they're homeschooled
  96. [01:30:43] <JamieKnight> kewl,
  97. [01:30:58] <JamieKnight> I wish i was homeschooled,
  98. [01:31:03] <KevinMarks> this one was fun: http://www.flickr.com/photos/laughingsquid/169705469/
  99. [01:31:15] <JamieKnight> I might be lucky and get to go back to school next year
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  101. [01:32:30] <JamieKnight> i need to upload my TKD picktures somtimes,
  102. [01:32:38] <JamieKnight> look like great picks, and some awesome kids,
  103. [01:32:45] <JamieKnight> congrats
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  137. [06:08:48] <vbgunz> is this the correct profile link for hCalendar: http://dannyayers.com/microformats/hcalendar-profile
  138. [06:08:49] <vbgunz> ?
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  140. [07:48:32] <mfbot> [[advocacy]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=advocacy&diff=0&oldid=13673 * Tantek * (+216) sent hCard markup to JPG mag
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  146. [08:30:00] <jibot> danja is Danny Ayers, http://dannyayers.com
  147. [08:31:35] <woodss> ?dev woodss is Steven Woods, http://www.swoo.co.uk - He is situated in Newcastle, UK (GMT +0000).
  148. [08:31:42] <woodss> ?def woodss is Steven Woods, http://www.swoo.co.uk - He is situated in Newcastle, UK (GMT +0000).
  149. [08:31:42] <jibot> woodss is Steven Woods, from Newcastle, UK (GMT +0000). His personal site is http://www.swoo.co.uk/ and Steven Woods, http://www.swoo.co.uk - He is situated in Newcastle, UK (GMT +0000).
  150. [08:32:06] <woodss> oh oops
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  152. [09:05:37] <jibot> trovster is a web developer from the UK who writes on http://www.trovster.com and helps with www.multipack.co.uk
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  154. [09:22:45] <tommorris> tell briansuda On planetmicroformats.com, the date for your O'Reilly ebook is wrong - it says September *2007*
  155. [09:23:12] <tommorris> Where's phenny when you need her?
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  161. [10:37:09] <jibot> woodss is Steven Woods, from Newcastle, UK (GMT +0000). His personal site is http://www.swoo.co.uk/ and Steven Woods, http://www.swoo.co.uk - He is situated in Newcastle, UK (GMT +0000).
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  164. [10:49:15] <jibot> julianstahnke is Julian Stahnke and works for last.fm and implements microformats wherever he can
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  166. [10:53:36] <AGraf``> hu
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  170. [11:12:11] <julianstahnke> can one nest an hAtom entry title inside the author element for the same entry, like here? http://playground.audioscrobbler.com/julian/test.html
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  173. [11:16:45] <jibot> Kilianvalkhof is Kilian Valkhof, he makes websites and blogs at http://kilianvalkhof.com
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  184. [11:45:59] <jibot> davecardwell is Dave Cardwell of http://davecardwell.co.uk/. He designs webs and generally geeks about in York, England.
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  190. [12:03:32] <jibot> bergie is lives in Finland and blogs at http://bergie.iki.fi/blog/ and Midgard CMS developer
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  195. [12:46:07] <mfbot> [[hreview-issues]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hreview-issues&diff=0&oldid=13674 * AndyMabbett * (+27) Open Issues
  196. [12:51:17] <mfbot> [[hcalendar-issues]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcalendar-issues&diff=0&oldid=13675 * AndyMabbett * (+3) sort by date
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  198. [13:03:38] <jibot> BenWard is Ben Ward of http://ben-ward.co.uk ( 0000/ 0100 GMT)
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  201. [13:18:47] <jibot> iand is Ian Davis who blogs at http://iandavis.com/blog
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  203. [13:24:06] <jibot> woodss is Steven Woods, from Newcastle, UK (GMT +0000). His personal site is http://www.swoo.co.uk/ and Steven Woods, http://www.swoo.co.uk - He is situated in Newcastle, UK (GMT +0000).
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  209. [13:43:49] <jibot> briansuda is brian suda of http://suda.co.uk and is at (-0000 GMT) and is author of "Using Microformats" for O'Reilly [http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/microformats/]
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  212. [13:46:22] <tommorris> briansuda: planetmicroformats has a mistake
  213. [13:46:28] <tommorris> It says your ebook's published in "September 2007"
  214. [13:46:52] <briansuda> yup, good catch
  215. [13:47:10] <tommorris> I was waiting for phenny to tell you on #swig
  216. [13:47:27] <tommorris> I'm looking forward to John Alsopp's book coming out
  217. [13:47:43] <briansuda> i have read it, it is an excellent resource
  218. [13:48:30] <tommorris> I really like the Friends of Ed books. HTML Mastery is pretty good - it certainly let me do the tables/HTML4 -> CSS/XHTML switch
  219. [13:49:08] <briansuda> yeah, there is a chapter about microformats in there too
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  221. [13:55:13] <briansuda> ok, i fixed the published date, pushed some UTF8 fixes and added Upcoming Events tagged as Microformats
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  251. [15:32:37] <bluesmoon> Hixie, I'm doing an introduction to microformats tomorrow at the CSI Web 2.0 conference in Bangalore and was wondering whether I could use the logo off the microformats website for my slides
  252. [15:32:45] <bluesmoon> s/hixie/hi/
  253. [15:33:45] <bluesmoon> and if i can, should I use the green one or the orange one
  254. [15:41:40] <trovster> I'm pretty sure you can, and the green one, I think
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  259. [16:11:14] * mkaply picks up a dead horse so he can beat it some more
  260. [16:11:35] <mkaply> Does anyone know if it was ever considered to use the title tag to store the tag name in a rel="tag"?
  261. [16:12:57] <tommorris> mkaply: have you considered implementing support for ICRA ratings in to Operator?
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  263. [16:15:21] <tommorris> It's not trendy and Web 2.0-ish, but it is useful
  264. [16:19:56] <trovster> bluesmoon: http://microformats.org/wiki/logo - Released under a Creative Commons BY-NC-SA (http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/2.5/) license
  265. [16:21:45] <mkaply> tommorris: haven't seen ICRA before
  266. [16:22:01] <tommorris> It's what used to be RSACi/PICS
  267. [16:22:26] * mkaply is being encouraged by groups to support RDFa in Operator because the rel-tag spec is painful
  268. [16:22:38] <tommorris> Basically, it's a meta-data standard that is used to say "this page does/does not have porn/violence" etc.
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  270. [16:23:05] <tommorris> I heard a podcast interview with a guy talking about it recently and I just wrote it up for GetSemantic:
  271. [16:23:06] <tommorris> http://www.getsemantic.com/wiki/ICRA_Labels
  272. [16:23:35] <tommorris> The data is stored in both the 'meta' element and also in an RDF file that accompanies the page.
  273. [16:25:25] <mkaply> I could see someone writing a standalone Firefox extension for this
  274. [16:26:19] <tommorris> Indeed - for filtering etc. - but just having the information there on display would be useful, no?
  275. [16:26:23] <tommorris> Something to think about...
  276. [16:27:10] <tommorris> I have little time for ICRA Labels - I have a complete philosophical disagreement with the idea of censorship or filtering of anything. But it's a standard that is still actually being used by quite a number of people
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  282. [16:30:54] <AdamCraven> Why was flat-numbers not included in 'adr'? Was it due to the fact that it isn't vcard compatible?
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  286. [16:35:48] <jibot> briansuda is brian suda of http://suda.co.uk and is at (-0000 GMT) and is author of "Using Microformats" for O'Reilly [http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/microformats/]
  287. [16:35:58] <tommorris> New unofficial microformat: <div class="humour">
  288. [16:35:58] <tommorris> So that the humourless...
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  290. [16:37:57] <jibot> mlinksva is Mike Linksvayer and from Creative Commons
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  294. [16:42:36] <bluesmoon> trovster, thanks
  295. [16:42:42] <trovster> np
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  299. [16:51:43] <bluesmoon> also, for my talk, is it okay for me to use the points from the about page verbatim? I don't see any explicit licencing on the site.
  300. [16:53:56] <briansuda_> as long as you cite them, it is fair use
  301. [16:54:11] <bluesmoon> okay. i'll be linking back to the page
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  306. [16:59:47] <jibot> briansuda is brian suda of http://suda.co.uk and is at (-0000 GMT) and is author of "Using Microformats" for O'Reilly [http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/microformats/]
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  312. [17:22:21] <mkaply> briansuda: So that 0.7a I released has support for integrating your X2V stuff for testing purposes
  313. [17:22:46] <briansuda> excellent, that should help find problems in my code as well
  314. [17:23:20] <mkaply> briansuda: Do you have any interest in creating a package that will work? Basically There needs to be a zip file that contains all the files. Since the import statements have relative paths
  315. [17:23:28] <mkaply> Or should I just explain to people how to edit the files.
  316. [17:23:47] <briansuda> what do you mean, 'create a package'?
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  321. [17:39:54] <mkaply> briansuda: Is there already a zip where someone can get all 5 xsl files at once?
  322. [17:39:56] * mkaply goes to look
  323. [17:40:06] <briansuda> nothing yet
  324. [17:40:17] <briansuda> but you can certainly build one yourself from the HG repo
  325. [17:40:39] <mkaply> briansuda: yeah. That's what I'll tell people to do. Grab then and then change the import statements since they will all be in one directory
  326. [17:41:01] <briansuda> well, you seem to be making updates faster than me, ...
  327. [17:41:18] <briansuda> so if you publish that ZIP with the changes i think it would be ok as well
  328. [17:41:54] <mkaply> briansuda: what about the local-name->self changes?
  329. [17:42:14] <mkaply> I have those in my local vsersion (although I haven't changed every instance)
  330. [17:42:16] <briansuda> hm, i know we talked about it - was i going to make that change?
  331. [17:42:40] <mkaply> briansuda: you believed local-name was done for a reason - that self wasn't working in some processors
  332. [17:42:51] <mkaply> but you didn't remember
  333. [17:43:12] <briansuda> yeah, there was an issue, but i can't remember exactly what it was...
  334. [17:43:40] <briansuda> can you send me an example code snippit in an email, then i can test it and maybe make the change globally
  335. [17:43:48] <briansuda> i think this issue was with namespaces.
  336. [17:44:11] <briansuda> local-name() got both <html:abbr> and <abbr> and <foo:abbr>
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  338. [17:44:42] <csarven> does the author of WebCards extension visit #microformats?
  339. [17:45:28] <mkaply> csarven: not yet. He's heads down doing stuff so he hasn't had a lot of time to socialize
  340. [17:45:50] <briansuda> we can pass along Q's to him if need be
  341. [17:46:38] <csarven> i left a comment on the blog mentioning a bug but didn't see a reply last time i checked
  342. [17:47:10] <briansuda> link?
  343. [17:47:33] <csarven> http://www.whymicroformats.com/articles/2007/02/16/webcards-0-30 -- comment #1
  344. [17:48:16] <csarven> oops there is an internal anchor #comment-71
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  346. [17:48:20] <briansuda> ah, he is aware of that!
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  348. [17:48:33] <csarven> cool
  349. [17:49:05] <briansuda> i talked to him as BarCamp, and said, hey it doesn't work on my site... (because i server it up as XML), so he has a good example to test on
  350. [17:49:16] <briansuda> although i don't know if it is an easy fix?
  351. [17:49:48] <csarven> doesn't work on my site either
  352. [17:52:07] <briansuda> WebCards introduces lots of javascript into the HTML, so if it is not well-formed or escaped it might throw a wobbler
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  368. [18:43:31] <mfbot> [[hresume-faq-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hresume-faq-fr&diff=0&oldid=13680 * ChristopheDucamp * (+5)
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  394. [20:08:02] <mkaply> any XSLT folk know what the difference is between local-name() and local-name(.) ?
  395. [20:10:06] <tommorris> There shouldn't be a difference, as far as I know
  396. [20:10:52] <mkaply> tommorris: good. that helps
  397. [20:12:14] <tommorris> are you having some problem with local-name()?
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  404. [20:13:50] <mkaply> tommorris: local-name is not case insensitive on Firefox.
  405. [20:13:57] <mkaply> So you can't use it reliably
  406. [20:14:14] <mkaply> I'm changing the X2v transforms to use self::foo instead so they will run properly in Firefox with transformiix
  407. [20:14:57] <tommorris> Are you subscribed to the XSL mailing list?
  408. [20:15:15] * bear is now known as bear_afk
  409. [20:15:31] <mkaply> tommorris: I'm no XSLT expert (or even that interested :)
  410. [20:15:45] <mkaply> I only found this as a side effect of trying to put Brians X2V stuff into Operator for debugging purposes
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  412. [20:16:17] <jibot> DanC_lap is DanC on his laptop.
  413. [20:16:32] <tommorris> I was just going to suggest it's worth joining the XSL list and posting on there - that's where the XSL folks are - Michael Kay, Jeni Tennison etc.
  414. [20:17:00] <tommorris> http://www.mulberrytech.com/xsl/xsl-list/
  415. [20:17:16] <DanC_lap> jibot, seen suda?
  416. [20:18:50] <mfbot> [[Main Page]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=Main_Page&diff=0&oldid=13684 * 123333 * (-1) Exploratory Discussions -
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  418. [20:21:06] <jibot> danja is Danny Ayers, http://dannyayers.com
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  421. [20:26:20] <jibot> bergie is lives in Finland and blogs at http://bergie.iki.fi/blog/ and Midgard CMS developer
  422. [20:26:37] <mkaply> hmm. new suda transforms don't work anyway
  423. [20:26:37] <mkaply> NS_ERROR_XPATH_BAD_EXTENSION_FUNCTION
  424. [20:27:13] <tommorris> What are you writing your XSL in?
  425. [20:27:51] <mkaply> tommorris: All I'm doing is taking Brian Suda's existing X2V and attempting to use it with transformiix in Firefox. The problem is the Firefox XSLT processor is old
  426. [20:28:49] <tommorris> It may be an idea to use oXygen to code it in and debug it.
  427. [20:29:00] <mfbot> [[Main Page]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=Main_Page&diff=0&oldid=13685 * 123333 * (-15) Drafts -
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  429. [20:37:01] <mfbot> [[hcard]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcard&diff=0&oldid=13686 * 123333 * (+62) Further Reading -
  430. [20:37:27] <mfbot> [[hcard]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcard&diff=0&oldid=13687 * 123333 * (-3) Further Reading -
  431. [20:37:58] <mfbot> [[hcard]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcard&diff=0&oldid=13688 * 123333 * (-3) Further Reading -
  432. [20:38:39] <mfbot> [[Special:Log/block]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=Special:Log/block&diff=0&oldid=0 * RyanKing * (+0) blocked "User:123333" with an expiry time of indefinite: spam
  433. [20:39:15] <mfbot> [[hcard]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcard&diff=0&oldid=13689 * RyanKing * (-56) Reverted edit of 123333, changed back to last version by DerrickPallas
  434. [20:39:41] <mfbot> [[Main Page]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=Main_Page&diff=0&oldid=13690 * RyanKing * (+16) Reverted edit of 123333, changed back to last version by DerrickPallas
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  444. [21:01:10] <jibot> iand is Ian Davis who blogs at http://iandavis.com/blog
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  459. [21:53:11] <bluesmoon> does anyone have a hcard badge that I can link to?
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  461. [22:03:23] <kingryan> badge?
  462. [22:03:58] <kingryan> what about http://microformats.org/wiki/buttons ?
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  466. [22:29:07] <mfbot> [[hcard-examples-in-wild]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcard-examples-in-wild&diff=0&oldid=13691 * BovineSpirit * (-37) Fixed (hopefully) run-on problem with my page, moved it back to 'new examples'
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  469. [22:40:32] <jibot> bergie is lives in Finland and blogs at http://bergie.iki.fi/blog/ and Midgard CMS developer
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  472. [23:00:11] <mfbot> [[events/2007-02-07-web-directions-north]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=events/2007-02-07-web-directions-north&diff=0&oldid=13692 * JohnAllsopp * (+190) Summary -
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  475. [23:09:12] <jibot> chimezie is Chimezie Ogbuji - He is a mammal
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