IRC Log for #microformats on 2007-04-05

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  8. [00:19:15] <kingryan> http://www.flickr.com/photos/ryansking/446627734/
  9. [00:22:00] <hober> heh
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  12. [00:25:50] <pnhChris> he looks so happy!
  13. [00:26:09] <kingryan> he was laughing because he had looked at the photo I took before that (not posted :D)
  14. [00:27:13] <pnhChris> you missed me in the 'look ma' photo.. though i guess i should blame the alphabet for that
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  27. [03:03:40] <jibot> tylerr is Tyler Roehmholdt and involves himself in the HTML WG and WaSP-related advocacy.
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  34. [04:00:20] <jibot> tantek is Tantek <http://tantek.com> and works on Technorati and develops microformats <http://microformats.org>
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  40. [04:28:16] <jibot> tylerr is Tyler Roehmholdt and involves himself in the HTML WG and WaSP-related advocacy.
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  43. [04:51:41] <jibot> Atamido is Paul Bryson, http://orangeman.commo.de/
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  53. [06:24:19] <mfbot> [[User talk:Padawan]] N http://microformats.org/wiki/User_talk:Padawan * Padawan * (+7572) Case guests:website optimization (SEO) engaged fierce popular words
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  56. [06:41:57] <jibot> iand is Ian Davis who blogs at http://iandavis.com/blog
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  65. [07:12:41] <jibot> tantek is Tantek <http://tantek.com> and works on Technorati and develops microformats <http://microformats.org>
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  67. [07:14:12] <jibot> bengee is Benjamin Nowack (http://bnode.org/)
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  73. [07:41:10] <jibot> _fil_ is co-author of SPIP (www.spip.net) and works on implementing microformats in it
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  77. [08:03:48] <jibot> bergie is lives in Finland and blogs at http://bergie.iki.fi/blog/ and Midgard CMS developer
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  80. [08:04:56] <jibot> trovster is a web developer from the UK who writes on http://www.trovster.com and helps with www.multipack.co.uk
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  82. [08:05:41] <jibot> iand is Ian Davis who blogs at http://iandavis.com/blog
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  88. [09:37:21] <jibot> iand is Ian Davis who blogs at http://iandavis.com/blog
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  90. [09:51:37] <mfbot> [[User talk:Padawan]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=User_talk:Padawan&diff=0&oldid=15208 * AndyMabbett * (-7572) blanking - spam ----------------------------------------------------------- !
  91. [09:52:43] <mfbot> [[geo-extension-strawman]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=geo-extension-strawman&diff=0&oldid=15209 * AndyMabbett * (+67)
  92. [09:54:44] <mfbot> [[geo-extension-strawman]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=geo-extension-strawman&diff=0&oldid=15210 * AndyMabbett * (+96) Issues - EtrS89
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  94. [10:11:56] <mfbot> [[hcard-issues]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcard-issues&diff=0&oldid=15211 * AndyMabbett * (+248) Issues - EtrS89 schema
  95. [10:21:17] <mfbot> [[hcard-issues]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcard-issues&diff=0&oldid=15212 * AndyMabbett * (-4) Issues -
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  97. [10:24:33] <mfbot> [[hcard-issues]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcard-issues&diff=0&oldid=15213 * AndyMabbett * (+25) Issues - European Terrestrial Reference System 89
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  101. [11:00:41] <mfbot> [[advocacy]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=advocacy&diff=0&oldid=15214 * AndyMabbett * (-121) Geo - GeoCaching refusal
  102. [11:03:27] <mfbot> [[advocacy]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=advocacy&diff=0&oldid=15215 * AndyMabbett * (+359) Rejections
  103. [11:03:45] <welly> hi all.. with hcards, can the classes be applied to any tag as opposed to just div?
  104. [11:06:08] <mfbot> [[advocacy]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=advocacy&diff=0&oldid=15216 * AndyMabbett * (+188) Geo rejections - more
  105. [11:08:39] <mfbot> [[advocacy]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=advocacy&diff=0&oldid=15217 * AndyMabbett * (-4) Geo Successes - better example
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  107. [11:09:40] <mfbot> [[advocacy]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=advocacy&diff=0&oldid=15218 * AndyMabbett * (-20) Geo Successes - match examples
  108. [11:11:07] <mfbot> [[advocacy]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=advocacy&diff=0&oldid=15219 * AndyMabbett * (+0) moving to correct section
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  111. [11:13:05] <trovster> welly: Yes, with all microformats.
  112. [11:13:18] <trovster> Although, there are some rules, like the datetime-pattern requires abbr
  113. [11:13:31] <welly> ok cool. i'm just marking up some addresses
  114. [11:13:50] <welly> so using <address class="vcard">...</address> - that's fine is it?
  115. [11:14:09] <trovster> Yes.
  116. [11:14:18] <welly> nice one.. cheers fella
  117. [11:17:14] <digitalspaghetti> hey folks, q: i have my posts marked up in hAtom, and have my published tag like this: <abbr title="2007-03-30BST12:40:253600" class="published">Fri 30 Mar 2007 @ 12:03</abbr>
  118. [11:17:24] <digitalspaghetti> however, tails seems to be ignoring it :(
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  120. [11:17:49] <trovster> <abbr title="2007-03-30BST12:40:253600" class="updated published">Fri 30 Mar 2007 @ 12:03</abbr>
  121. [11:18:05] <trovster> That date looks wierd.
  122. [11:18:15] <trovster> BST? 253600 ?
  123. [11:18:27] <digitalspaghetti> I currently have it as Y-m-dTH:i:sZ, should it me Y-m-d\TH:i:S\Z ?
  124. [11:18:53] <trovster> in PHP, yes.
  125. [11:19:31] <digitalspaghetti> i thought so, i get 2007-03-30T12:40:25Z but tails still ignores it :/
  126. [11:19:54] <trovster> Do you have an updated class?
  127. [11:20:19] <digitalspaghetti> not yet, but i was going to create it seperate as my posts have a created and modified field in the db
  128. [11:20:42] <trovster> updated is required, whereas published is optional
  129. [11:20:48] <trovster> Try class="updated published" for now
  130. [11:21:45] <trovster> if($updated==$created && withinthreashold) class="updated published" else class="updated" ... class="published"
  131. [11:22:57] <welly> is there a "preferred" firefox plugin? tails or operator?
  132. [11:23:18] <digitalspaghetti> hrm, still nothing when doing "updated published" or just "updated"
  133. [11:24:59] <digitalspaghetti> in fact, i've just noticed it's not picking up "author" as well....maybe it's a Tails bug then
  134. [11:27:22] <digitalspaghetti> i'm going to a talk tommorow with brian suda, might just ask him then :)
  135. [11:28:03] <trovster> welly: I prefer tails, coz operator was really slow when I tried it.
  136. [11:28:07] <welly> ok
  137. [11:28:36] <trovster> but I have both installed. Also, Operator infects my Firebug console :@
  138. [11:28:43] <welly> ah right :)
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  143. [11:53:46] <mfbot> [[advocacy]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=advocacy&diff=0&oldid=15220 * AndyMabbett * (+264) Geo Successes - Wikipedia-DE
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  146. [12:04:16] <jibot> csarven is Sarven Capadisli and can be found online at http://www.csarven.ca
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  148. [12:13:43] <jibot> Mr_Elusive is not a programmer from id but makes his home at http://eswat.ca
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  155. [13:01:11] <jibot> sreynen is Scott Reynen, who makes things at makedatamakesense.com
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  158. [13:35:29] <jibot> davecardwell is Dave Cardwell of http://davecardwell.co.uk/. He designs webs and generally geeks about in York, England.
  159. [13:39:51] <mfbot> [[media-info-brainstorming]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=media-info-brainstorming&diff=0&oldid=15221 * ManuSporny * (+126) Contributors -
  160. [13:50:22] <mfbot> [[media-info-brainstorming]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=media-info-brainstorming&diff=0&oldid=15222 * ManuSporny * (+724) Added comments section, updated file format and codec information
  161. [13:52:43] <mfbot> [[media-info-brainstorming]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=media-info-brainstorming&diff=0&oldid=15223 * ManuSporny * (+30) Splitting Content Semantics from File Format -
  162. [13:53:09] <mfbot> [[media-info-brainstorming]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=media-info-brainstorming&diff=0&oldid=15224 * ManuSporny * (+1) Splitting Content Semantics from File Format -
  163. [13:54:00] <mfbot> [[media-info-brainstorming]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=media-info-brainstorming&diff=0&oldid=15225 * ManuSporny * (-4) The Problem -
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  173. [14:10:51] <jibot> mkaply is Michael Kaply <http://www.kaply.com/weblog/> and is the developer of Operator <https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/4106/>
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  178. [15:02:21] <jibot> pnhChris is Chris Casciano, blogs at http://placenamehere.com/ , and a member of the Web Standards Project.
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  182. [15:03:07] <jibot> cgriego is Chris Griego (-06:00) and a front-end architect with rd2inc.com
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  185. [15:39:37] <jibot> tylerr is Tyler Roehmholdt and involves himself in the HTML WG and WaSP-related advocacy.
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  187. [15:42:59] <jibot> mlinksva is Mike Linksvayer and from Creative Commons
  188. [15:43:06] <cgriego> did Operator 0.7 disable hAtom support?
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  195. [16:12:16] <mfbot> [[events]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=events&diff=0&oldid=15226 * Tantek * (+116) added Microformats lunch in South Park with Rohit and "Microformats" book
  196. [16:12:37] <mfbot> [[events]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=events&diff=0&oldid=15227 * Tantek * (+44)
  197. [16:14:18] <mfbot> [[Special:Log/block]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=Special:Log/block&diff=0&oldid=0 * Tantek * (+0) blocked "User:Padawan" with an expiry time of infinite: spam
  198. [16:14:24] <mfbot> [[Special:Log/delete]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=Special:Log/delete&diff=0&oldid=0 * Tantek * (+0) deleted "User talk:Padawan": spam
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  201. [16:23:31] <mkaply> cgriego: It was never "official"
  202. [16:23:35] <mkaply> cgriego: i moved it to a user script
  203. [16:23:45] <mkaply> http://www.kaply.com/weblog/operator-user-scripts/
  204. [16:24:05] <mkaply> anyone know of a calendar site that uses microformats that also uses TZ offsets for events?
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  209. [16:33:40] <jibot> davecardwell is Dave Cardwell of http://davecardwell.co.uk/. He designs webs and generally geeks about in York, England.
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  223. [17:09:43] <jibot> tantek is Tantek <http://tantek.com> and works on Technorati and develops microformats <http://microformats.org>
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  225. [17:47:55] <mkaply> no one uses timezone offsets!
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  239. [18:15:25] <kingryan> mkaply: no one? people just put floating time?
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  247. [18:49:56] <mkaply> kingryan: yep. and the occasional Z. although this site uses Z - http://jhtc.org/ - incorrectly (I sent them mail
  248. [18:50:33] <mkaply> never mind. they already fixed it
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  252. [19:11:08] <mkaply> If someone has this as their tag:
  253. [19:11:27] <mkaply> <A rel="tag" title="Fe bahà'í" href="blog/tag/Fe+bah%E0%27%ED" class="taglevel1">Fe bahà'í</A>
  254. [19:11:32] <mkaply> what should I be using as the tag?
  255. [19:11:39] <mkaply> is that plus a space?
  256. [19:11:51] <mkaply> or is it a +
  257. [19:14:06] <mkaply> tantek: that's for you :)
  258. [19:15:00] <tantek> I believe there is an RFC on URLs that answers that ;)
  259. [19:15:08] <tantek> + and " " and %20 are the same AFAIK
  260. [19:15:12] <tantek> in URls
  261. [19:15:44] <mkaply> so how would you put a + in a tag then if you wanted to?
  262. [19:16:28] <mkaply> should be converting + to %20 in tags. got it.
  263. [19:17:35] <mkaply> currently I unescape the tag, but clearly that isn't catching the +. I shouldn't be displaying the + at al, right?
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  266. [19:33:37] <jibot> Charl is Charl van Niekerk and writes about standards at http://standards.za.net/
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  270. [19:44:19] <jibot> veeliam is William Lawrence <http://zaxbypass.com>
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  277. [20:13:44] <tobie> Hi,
  278. [20:13:52] <tobie> just have a very simple question.
  279. [20:14:11] <hober> please ask it
  280. [20:14:20] <tobie> I have a page with a restaurant and many people submitted reviews to it.
  281. [20:14:29] <tobie> these are displayed on the same page
  282. [20:15:08] <tobie> is there anyway I can omit to display again the info about the restaurant for each review ?
  283. [20:15:19] <hober> look at the include pattern on the wiki
  284. [20:15:33] <hober> http://microformats.org/wiki/include-pattern
  285. [20:15:45] <tobie> ok, so there is something - I was sure
  286. [20:15:46] <tobie> thanks
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  291. [20:38:05] <mkaply> need an opinion
  292. [20:38:06] <mkaply> Illegal characters in geo. The only characters which should occur in a Geo are digits, decimal points, the negative sign (- and possibly html entity versions) and semi-colons. Presently the template at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:GeoTemplate (for example) generates a geo, with (literally) “latitude={latdegdec}” and which Operator treats as valid. Can Operator test for illegal characters, please?
  293. [20:38:17] <mkaply> comment fram andy mabbett
  294. [20:38:30] <mkaply> what do people think? Should I be testing things like geo for correct characters?
  295. [20:38:43] <AGraf``> hm
  296. [20:38:46] <AGraf``> yes i think so
  297. [20:39:15] <AGraf``> ultimately it should be possible to validate all microformats
  298. [20:40:54] <mkaply> when would a demicolon appear in a geo?
  299. [20:42:00] <AGraf``> If latitude is present, so MUST be longitude, and vice versa.
  300. [20:42:08] <AGraf``> The secondary classes can be omitted, the two values MUST be separated by a semicolon and latitude MUST be first. This is used with the ABBR design pattern and the title attribute:<abbr class="geo" title="37.386013;-122.082932">Human Readable Text</abbr>
  301. [20:42:18] <AGraf``> Coordinates use the datum of WGS84 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Geodetic_System).
  302. [20:42:24] <AGraf``> from http://microformats.org/wiki/geo-cheatsheet
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  304. [20:44:36] <ianloic> is there options to use different systems?
  305. [20:44:54] <ianloic> I mean, in Australia there's a couple of different ones that are used instead of WGS84
  306. [20:47:25] <mkaply> I'll check to make sure they are numbers, but I'm not going to validate that they are <180 or > -180
  307. [20:47:35] <mkaply> that would require much more work
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  309. [20:50:50] <kingryan> ianloic: I think we just reuse whatever vCard uses
  310. [20:51:11] <kingryan> I think I'd prefer to limit it to one
  311. [20:52:20] <ianloic> yeah
  312. [20:53:06] <ianloic> so long as the geo microformat is for people who aren't GIS/cartographers/surveyors it doesn't matter
  313. [20:53:19] <AGraf``> ianloic : there is work on a more complete version of a geo microformat for those people
  314. [20:53:26] <AGraf``> and for waypoints and stuff
  315. [20:53:33] <ianloic> AGraf``, ahh neat
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  317. [20:57:02] <kingryan> ianloic: we target the 80/20 of people. I'd guess that the professionals would be in the minority and they should be able to convert the coordinates anyway
  318. [20:58:29] * ianloic nods.
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  320. [21:05:52] <jibot> jcw9 is Jon Williams and can be found online at http://wizardishungry.com/blog/
  321. [21:10:55] <ajturner> ianloic - the W3C GeoXG is working on a more complete geo for full geo spec
  322. [21:11:06] <ianloic> ajturner, ahh nice
  323. [21:11:18] <ajturner> there is also using georss in RDFa
  324. [21:13:20] <ianloic> I think I just about sold factoryjoe on the benefits of RDF last night...
  325. [21:13:48] <hober> *shudder*
  326. [21:15:13] <kingryan> ianloic: I think you could convince him of many things :D
  327. [21:21:23] <mfbot> [[icons]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=icons&diff=0&oldid=15228 * SunBurntKamel * (+146) proposed tag icon -
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  331. [21:29:18] <jibot> Mr_Elusive is not a programmer from id but makes his home at http://eswat.ca
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  333. [21:47:46] <mfbot> [[User talk:SunBurntKamel]] N http://microformats.org/wiki/User_talk:SunBurntKamel * AndyMabbett * (+71) Welcome!
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  335. [21:56:15] <jibot> iand is Ian Davis who blogs at http://iandavis.com/blog
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