IRC Log for #microformats on 2007-04-10

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  5. [00:13:06] <jibot> danja is Danny Ayers, http://dannyayers.com
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  10. [00:26:17] <jibot> danja is Danny Ayers, http://dannyayers.com
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  13. [01:08:41] <mfbot> [[geo]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=geo&diff=0&oldid=15344 * AndyMabbett * (+52) Examples in the wild - count
  14. [01:09:17] <mfbot> [[geo]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=geo&diff=0&oldid=15345 * AndyMabbett * (+6) Examples in the wild - embolden
  15. [01:11:18] <mfbot> [[geo]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=geo&diff=0&oldid=15346 * AndyMabbett * (+163) Examples in the wild - sixth most popular website in the Netherlands
  16. [01:18:04] <mfbot> [[geo]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=geo&diff=0&oldid=15347 * AndyMabbett * (+58) Examples in the wild - Panoramio (I just stumbled upon this one)
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  19. [01:36:06] <mfbot> [[Main Page-ja]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=Main_Page-ja&diff=0&oldid=15348 * Satoshi Kikuchi * (+122) 協力の方法 -
  20. [01:39:57] <mfbot> [[Main Page-ja]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=Main_Page-ja&diff=0&oldid=15349 * Satoshi Kikuchi * (+2) 協力の方法 -
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  25. [02:18:33] <jibot> cgriego is Chris Griego (-06:00) and a front-end architect with rd2inc.com
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  28. [02:39:04] <jibot> tantek is Tantek <http://tantek.com> and works on Technorati and develops microformats <http://microformats.org>
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  33. [03:07:13] <jibot> pnhChris is Chris Casciano, blogs at http://placenamehere.com/ , and a member of the Web Standards Project.
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  36. [03:12:09] <jibot> Atamido is Paul Bryson, http://orangeman.commo.de/
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  42. [04:02:31] <jibot> bergie is lives in Finland and blogs at http://bergie.iki.fi/blog/ and Midgard CMS developer
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  50. [05:03:11] <jibot> AlexanderGraf is a designer and webdeveloper from Innsbruck, Austria who writes on http://www.aetherworld.org/ and works for DERI Innsbruck (http://www.deri.org/)
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  58. [05:37:44] <jibot> tylerr is Tyler Roehmholdt and involves himself in the HTML WG and WaSP-related advocacy.
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  63. [05:51:44] <jibot> tantek is Tantek <http://tantek.com> and works on Technorati and develops microformats <http://microformats.org>
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  69. [06:21:20] <jibot> bergie is lives in Finland and blogs at http://bergie.iki.fi/blog/ and Midgard CMS developer
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  73. [06:56:11] <jibot> bengee is Benjamin Nowack (http://bnode.org/)
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  83. [08:05:14] <jibot> trovster is a web developer from the UK who writes on http://www.trovster.com and helps with www.multipack.co.uk
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  86. [08:36:40] <bretonslivka> Jello?
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  89. [09:03:01] <jibot> julianstahnke is Julian Stahnke and works for last.fm and implements microformats wherever he can
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  92. [09:54:49] <jibot> davecardwell is Dave Cardwell of http://davecardwell.co.uk/. He designs webs and generally geeks about in York, England.
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  113. [12:34:38] <jibot> csarven is Sarven Capadisli and can be found online at http://www.csarven.ca
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  118. [12:47:54] <jibot> _fil_ is co-author of SPIP (www.spip.net) and works on implementing microformats in it
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  121. [12:53:20] <jibot> edsu is Ed Summers from the Library of Congress <http://www.inkdroid.org>
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  123. [13:00:40] <mfbot> [[plazes-syntax]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=plazes-syntax&diff=0&oldid=15350 * JldFse * (-2348)
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  125. [13:03:30] <jibot> Mr_Elusive is not a programmer from id but makes his home at http://eswat.ca
  126. [13:04:31] <mfbot> [[Talk:WikiNode]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=Talk:WikiNode&diff=0&oldid=15351 * OogIt2 * (-91)
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  137. [14:03:04] <jibot> mkaply is Michael Kaply <http://www.kaply.com/weblog/> and is the developer of Operator <https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/4106/>
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  145. [14:24:30] <jibot> danja is Danny Ayers, http://dannyayers.com
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  151. [14:48:36] <jibot> cgriego is Chris Griego (-06:00) and a front-end architect with rd2inc.com
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  154. [14:58:07] <mfbot> [[geo-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=geo-fr&diff=0&oldid=15353 * ChristopheDucamp * (+1108)
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  156. [15:00:43] <mfbot> [[hresume-examples-in-wild-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hresume-examples-in-wild-fr&diff=0&oldid=15354 * ChristopheDucamp * (+73)
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  162. [15:07:57] <jibot> danja is Danny Ayers, http://dannyayers.com
  163. [15:08:10] <mfbot> [[geo-profile-fr]] MN http://microformats.org/wiki/geo-profile-fr * ChristopheDucamp * (+1581)
  164. [15:10:56] <mfbot> [[profile-examples-in-wild-fr]] MN http://microformats.org/wiki/profile-examples-in-wild-fr * ChristopheDucamp * (+494)
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  167. [15:17:31] <mkaply> General question for alll (assuming anyone is listening)
  168. [15:17:42] <mkaply> The numbers next to the microformats in Operator (3) (4)
  169. [15:17:48] <mkaply> Is that a "geek feature"
  170. [15:17:53] <mkaply> Or is that useful to general users
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  172. [15:27:37] <jibot> danja is Danny Ayers, http://dannyayers.com
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  174. [15:29:49] <jibot> gsnedders is a 14 year old idiot from Scotland and pretends to have a website at http://geoffers.uni.cc/
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  179. [15:41:04] <mfbot> [[User:BradT]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=User:BradT&diff=0&oldid=15355 * RwpGr8 * (+0)
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  223. [17:22:33] <mfbot> [[geo]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=geo&diff=0&oldid=15360 * JClausen * (+94) Examples in the wild -
  224. [17:31:35] <mfbot> [[photo-note-examples-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=photo-note-examples-fr&diff=0&oldid=15361 * Ue5Nb4 * (-2)
  225. [17:34:31] <mfbot> [[photo-note-examples-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=photo-note-examples-fr&diff=0&oldid=15362 * Tantek * (+2) Reverted edit of Ue5Nb4, changed back to last version by ChristopheDucamp
  226. [17:35:15] <tantek> these little typo corrections by seemingly randomly named users feel like bots "testing" the waters
  227. [17:35:41] <tantek> i'm tempted to block them preemptively - what do others think?
  228. [17:37:20] <hober> that seems reasonable to me
  229. [17:37:57] <mfbot> [[x2v-issues]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=x2v-issues&diff=0&oldid=15363 * VivHa7 * (-331)
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  232. [17:42:04] <mfbot> [[hcalendar-intro-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcalendar-intro-fr&diff=0&oldid=15365 * Pt9Hvr * (+0)
  233. [17:42:51] <tantek> I have a bad feeling about this.
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  257. [18:28:50] <kingryan> hey KevinMarks, have you thought about getting some hCard on http://www.google.com/intl/en/contact/index.html ?
  258. [18:28:54] <kingryan> :D
  259. [18:29:06] <mfbot> [[2006-in-review]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=2006-in-review&diff=0&oldid=15370 * VclJ6z * (+0)
  260. [18:32:38] <mfbot> [[advocacy]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=advocacy&diff=0&oldid=15371 * Tantek * (+229) asked Google to add hCard to their main contact page
  261. [18:32:44] <csarven> mkaply was it you working on Operator?
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  264. [18:36:00] <mfbot> [[Special:Log/block]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=Special:Log/block&diff=0&oldid=0 * Tantek * (+0) blocked "User:OogIt2" with an expiry time of infinite: bot spam/vandalism
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  267. [18:36:23] <mfbot> [[Special:Log/block]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=Special:Log/block&diff=0&oldid=0 * Tantek * (+0) blocked "User:Ue5Nb4" with an expiry time of infinite: bot spam/vandalism
  268. [18:36:29] <mfbot> [[Special:Log/block]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=Special:Log/block&diff=0&oldid=0 * Tantek * (+0) blocked "User:VivHa7" with an expiry time of infinite: bot spam/vandalism
  269. [18:36:35] <mfbot> [[Special:Log/block]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=Special:Log/block&diff=0&oldid=0 * Tantek * (+0) blocked "User:YghPn2" with an expiry time of infinite: bot spam/vandalism
  270. [18:36:41] <mfbot> [[Special:Log/block]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=Special:Log/block&diff=0&oldid=0 * Tantek * (+0) blocked "User:Pt9Hvr" with an expiry time of infinite: bot spam/vandalism
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  272. [18:36:53] <mfbot> [[Special:Log/block]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=Special:Log/block&diff=0&oldid=0 * Tantek * (+0) blocked "User:St2Jqy" with an expiry time of infinite: bot spam/vandalism
  273. [18:36:59] <mfbot> [[Special:Log/block]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=Special:Log/block&diff=0&oldid=0 * Tantek * (+0) blocked "User:Zl1Ag0" with an expiry time of infinite: bot spam/vandalism
  274. [18:37:05] <mfbot> [[Special:Log/block]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=Special:Log/block&diff=0&oldid=0 * Tantek * (+0) blocked "User:Ph8Ntt" with an expiry time of infinite: bot spam/vandalism
  275. [18:37:11] <mfbot> [[Special:Log/block]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=Special:Log/block&diff=0&oldid=0 * Tantek * (+0) blocked "User:VclJ6z" with an expiry time of infinite: bot spam/vandalism
  276. [18:37:57] <mfbot> [[hcard-examples-in-wild]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcard-examples-in-wild&diff=0&oldid=15372 * JClausen * (+125) Examples with some problems -
  277. [18:38:13] <mfbot> [[2006-in-review]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=2006-in-review&diff=0&oldid=15373 * Tantek * (+0) Reverted edit of VclJ6z, changed back to last version by AndyMabbett
  278. [18:38:19] <mfbot> [[rellicense-issues-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=rellicense-issues-fr&diff=0&oldid=15374 * Tantek * (+1267) Reverted edit of Ph8Ntt, changed back to last version by ChristopheDucamp
  279. [18:38:35] <mfbot> [[currency-issues-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=currency-issues-fr&diff=0&oldid=15375 * Tantek * (+3747) Reverted edit of St2Jqy, changed back to last version by ChristopheDucamp
  280. [18:38:36] <mfbot> [[User:Ragdoll]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=User:Ragdoll&diff=0&oldid=15376 * Tantek * (+161) Reverted edit of TdoRwl, changed back to last version by Ragdoll
  281. [18:38:42] <mfbot> [[hcalendar-intro-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcalendar-intro-fr&diff=0&oldid=15377 * Tantek * (+0) Reverted edit of Pt9Hvr, changed back to last version by ChristopheDucamp
  282. [18:38:43] <mfbot> [[User:Bob Jonkman]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=User:Bob_Jonkman&diff=0&oldid=15378 * Tantek * (+207) Reverted edit of YghPn2, changed back to last version by Bob Jonkman
  283. [18:38:44] <mfbot> [[x2v-issues]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=x2v-issues&diff=0&oldid=15379 * Tantek * (+331) Reverted edit of VivHa7, changed back to last version by Brian
  284. [18:39:49] <tantek> ok that's it for the recent crop of vandals
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  286. [18:39:59] <tantek> but I'm worried that this is a bigger problem
  287. [18:40:30] <tantek> each of those usernames was only used for one change AFAIK
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  291. [18:45:15] <KevinMarks> looks like media-info is picking up a lot of interest
  292. [18:46:25] <mfbot> [[distributed-conversation-examples-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=distributed-conversation-examples-fr&diff=0&oldid=15380 * OolJ9a * (-5495)
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  310. [19:40:07] <mfbot> [[xoxo-pt-br]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=xoxo-pt-br&diff=0&oldid=15383 * QptQof * (-8905)
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  314. [19:41:31] <mfbot> [[directions-examples-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=directions-examples-fr&diff=0&oldid=15386 * Tantek * (+32819) revert
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  319. [19:46:58] * tantek_ is dreading the day when bots create usernames using fake names derived from online phonebooks.
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  322. [19:47:38] <tantek> or perhaps from found hCards
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  324. [19:51:04] <Azath0th> i don't wanna think about the day when maicroformats get used by spammers
  325. [19:51:30] <Azath0th> more semantics in the www means more ways to do bad stuff by the spammers
  326. [19:52:17] <AGraf``> not really a big problem i think
  327. [19:52:46] <AGraf``> spam bots could do that today as well, they just need more human intervention at the moment
  328. [19:53:18] <Azath0th> right, so there's probably gonna be even more spam if less human intervention is needed
  329. [19:54:15] <AGraf``> well
  330. [19:54:23] <AGraf``> look at rel=nofollow
  331. [19:54:37] <Azath0th> didn't stop any spammers
  332. [19:54:42] <AGraf``> exactly
  333. [19:54:55] <AGraf``> spammers dont care whether your blog uses rel nofollow
  334. [19:55:11] <AGraf``> looking that up uses more resources than just spamming everything
  335. [19:55:16] <AGraf``> and they might still get clicks
  336. [19:55:18] <AGraf``> intelligent spam is very unlikely
  337. [19:55:29] <Azath0th> but that's something different than being able to scrape structured data from hCards off webpages
  338. [19:55:33] <AGraf``> same with hcards, i think
  339. [19:55:46] <AGraf``> ive had my email address on my website for years
  340. [19:56:09] <AGraf``> without any anti-spam protection
  341. [19:56:14] <AGraf``> it's even hyperlinked
  342. [19:56:16] <AGraf``> i dont get more spam because of that
  343. [19:56:31] <AGraf``> [21:54:44] <Azath0th> but that's something different than being able to scrape structured data from hCards off webpages
  344. [19:56:40] <AGraf``> well, what would they do with that data?
  345. [19:56:47] <Azath0th> well, then you're lucky
  346. [19:56:52] <Azath0th> i don't know
  347. [19:57:24] <Azath0th> it just theoretical that machine readable data might open more ways for spammers
  348. [19:57:30] <Azath0th> that's just what i think
  349. [19:57:48] <AGraf``> of course its a valid thought
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  351. [19:58:17] <Azath0th> nobody can say, how microformats will change the web ;)
  352. [19:58:23] <AGraf``> its just my personal opinion that spammers will probably not use that
  353. [19:58:27] <AGraf``> thats true..
  354. [19:59:43] <AGraf``> it will be interesting to see how or if at all microformats will affect development of the semantic web
  355. [20:00:26] <Azath0th> if you mean development of the W3Cs semantic web, probably not at all. because it totally relies on complete restructure and moving over to RDF etc.
  356. [20:00:51] <Azath0th> if you mean, having semantic data at your fingertips when creating webaps, that's gonna be huge i think
  357. [20:03:53] <AGraf``> well
  358. [20:04:22] <AGraf``> not necessarily
  359. [20:04:52] <AGraf``> i'm doing research work for DERI on the semantic web
  360. [20:05:07] * dydimustk (n=tk@192.231.160.6) Quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))
  361. [20:05:11] <AGraf``> and microformats *have* created some discussion
  362. [20:05:44] <Azath0th> i can see why
  363. [20:05:57] <Azath0th> but microformats have nothing to do with w3c's semantic web
  364. [20:06:04] <Azath0th> since they build on top of XHTML
  365. [20:06:27] <mfbot> [[dry]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=dry&diff=0&oldid=15389 * RirXbr * (-2)
  366. [20:06:36] <Azath0th> and solve defined problems instead of trying to introduce a system that could thoretically solve _every_ problem
  367. [20:06:44] <AGraf``> i know
  368. [20:06:59] <AGraf``> but "semantic web" doesn't mean "w3c"
  369. [20:07:21] <Azath0th> yes, that's why i asked which of the definitions you meant
  370. [20:07:28] <AGraf``> ah
  371. [20:07:41] <AGraf``> well we do research on a broad spectrum
  372. [20:08:19] <Azath0th> sounds nice
  373. [20:13:18] <tommorris_> "it totally relies on complete restructure and moving over to RDF etc" - no it doesn't
  374. [20:14:14] <tommorris_> Microformats are already being used in RDF applications thanks to GRDDL.
  375. [20:14:23] <mfbot> [[rest-brainstorming]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=rest-brainstorming&diff=0&oldid=15390 * KfjPzf * (-1)
  376. [20:15:04] <mfbot> [[chat-formats-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=chat-formats-fr&diff=0&oldid=15391 * ZruA2r * (-4614)
  377. [20:15:21] <AGraf``> tommorris_: well, in a way it does
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  379. [20:15:51] <AGraf``> the w3c vision of the semantic web does rely on RDF
  380. [20:16:00] <AGraf``> although they start to turn around now
  381. [20:16:09] <Azath0th> w3c's semantic web can surely use microformats but it's a different thing than the www which can also use microformats
  382. [20:17:03] <AGraf``> w3c's current semantic web could also be RDF as RDFa in XHTML2
  383. [20:17:49] <tommorris> RDF means any serialization - including GRDDL, eRDF, RDFa - as well as XML/RDF, TriX, N3, N-Triples etc.
  384. [20:17:55] <tommorris> Microformats fits in very neatly with this vision
  385. [20:18:08] <AGraf``> it does
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  387. [20:18:46] <tommorris> My blog now has hCard and hAtom, plus FOAF and SIOC as eRDF
  388. [20:20:24] * bear_afk is now known as bear
  389. [20:21:28] <AGraf``> tommorris: He's right though in that the W3C will probably not embrace microformats
  390. [20:21:29] <tantek> tommorris, if RDF means any serialization, then why not always publish with the simplest/easiest serialization on the web (e.g. microformats)?
  391. [20:21:54] <tommorris> Engineering decision. Microformats are simple *if they exist*.
  392. [20:22:02] <tantek> and for DRY reasons, why bother with separate alternate files and file formats?
  393. [20:22:18] <AGraf``> tantek: valid question, but there are no microformats for everything
  394. [20:22:23] <tommorris> Take a look at my blog - it's using microformats and eRDF together.
  395. [20:22:28] <tantek> seems to me that if all those work "as RDF", then microformats make the most sense from a pure economics perspective
  396. [20:22:53] <tommorris> For instance a blog entry can be class="hentry -sioc-Post"
  397. [20:23:02] <tommorris> http://tom.opiumfield.com/blog/
  398. [20:23:08] <tantek> AGraf, until there is - just use your own semantic XHTML - which is again, the easiest thing to do
  399. [20:23:37] <AGraf``> tantek: can i pm you with a question?
  400. [20:23:58] <tommorris> Yes, but if you want to get RDF data out - then it's an engineering decision between using eRDF and standard semantic class names.
  401. [20:27:09] <tantek> not really. you can always use your own semantic XHTML and your own XMDP profile (which can be auto-GRDDL'd to RDF)
  402. [20:27:38] * tantek also wonders when people start using proper terminology of parsing vs. scraping.
  403. [20:27:54] <tantek> especially folks who deal with semantics who *should* know better and be more precise about it
  404. [20:28:02] <tommorris> We're gonna be scraping for a long time, I feel...
  405. [20:28:33] <tantek> tommorris: http://microformats.org/wiki/hcard-parsing
  406. [20:29:06] <tantek> Azath0th wrote: "scrape structured data from hCards off webpages" - that's incorrect. You *parse* hCards (see previous URL), not scrape them.
  407. [20:29:13] <Azath0th> sorry ;)
  408. [20:29:55] <tantek> the simple distinction is, if there are explicit parsing rules for a format, and you follow them, then you are parsing. if you just look at the HTML of a page and use your own made-up regular expressions to extract apparent semantic information, that's scraping.
  409. [20:30:57] <tommorris> tantek: sometimes you just want to stick some RDF in to a page, and it's not worth writing an XMDP profile or GRDDL stylesheet.
  410. [20:31:03] * tantek has noticed a tendency of XML/RDF-centric folks to (incorrectly) refer to anything to do with HTML as "scraping", either out of ignorance (hopefully) or out of marketing / historical reasons.
  411. [20:31:42] <tantek> you should never just want to stick some RDF into a page - that doesn't make any sense (except for religious reasons)
  412. [20:32:03] <Azath0th> well i'm not RDF centric
  413. [20:32:04] <tantek> semantic XHTML is a simpler and easier serialization and doesn't require duplicating the content, nor hiding it in SGML comments
  414. [20:32:19] <tantek> Azath0th - it's the view that's been promoted by XML/RDF-camps.
  415. [20:32:23] <tommorris> eRDF doesn't require duplication of content, nor does it require hiding in comments.
  416. [20:32:32] <tantek> and so lots of bad article/books have been rewritten that way that mislead people
  417. [20:32:47] <tantek> tommorris, yes, eRDF is much better than traditional RDF -in-comments nonsense
  418. [20:32:53] <tantek> *MUC*
  419. [20:32:57] <tantek> *MUCH*
  420. [20:33:25] <tommorris> Has there been any discussion of having rel=trackback?
  421. [20:33:36] <mfbot> [[advocacy]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=advocacy&diff=0&oldid=15392 * AndyMabbett * (+136) Geo Successes - GIS-Wiki's "hjl_getCoor" now outputs Geo markup
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  423. [20:34:48] <mfbot> [[geo]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=geo&diff=0&oldid=15394 * AndyMabbett * (+117) Implementations - GIS-Wiki's "hjl_getCoor" now outputs Geo markup, from a Google Maps API.
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  429. [20:38:54] * tommorris is glad he's not the only wiki owner with spam problems... :)
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  434. [20:41:17] <tantek> hello jibot, any chance you can help us with our bot spam problem?
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  438. [20:47:53] <tommorris_> Wonders whether "XML/RDF-centric folks" (tantek) meant people who are centred on XML and/or RDF, or people who are centred on XML/RDF.
  439. [20:48:05] <tommorris_> If the latter exist, that *scares* me.
  440. [20:48:12] <tantek> they do exist
  441. [20:48:15] <tantek> and i meant the former
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  443. [20:48:33] <tantek> XML|RDF reads like XMLIRDF in too many fonts
  444. [20:49:07] <tantek> I tend to use RDF+XML as the shorthand for "RDF in XML"
  445. [20:49:20] <mfbot> [[glossary]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=glossary&diff=0&oldid=15398 * AndyMabbett * (+177) parse; scrape (per IRC)
  446. [20:49:52] <tantek> since it is also a mnemonic for "application/rdf+xml"
  447. [20:50:10] <tantek> what do you think tommorris?
  448. [20:50:41] <tommorris_> I use either RDF/XML or vice versa.
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  450. [20:51:12] <tommorris_> There's a great blog entry kicking around showing the same bit of data serialized in about 30 different ways in RDF/XML. Makes Perl seem simple...
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