IRC Log for #microformats on 2007-05-17
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[[User talk:WebOrganics]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=User_talk:WebOrganics&diff=0&oldid=16800 * WebOrganics * (-180)
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[[posh-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=posh-fr&diff=0&oldid=16801 * ChristopheDucamp * (+2) Le processus du CHIC - typo
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[[events/2007-05-16-xtech]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=events/2007-05-16-xtech&diff=0&oldid=16802 * ChristopheDucamp * (+413) Add my 0.02 € hreview + how could we translate grey goo ?
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[[events/2007-05-16-xtech]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=events/2007-05-16-xtech&diff=0&oldid=16803 * ChristopheDucamp * (+1) Blog posts -
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[[events/2007-05-16-xtech]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=events/2007-05-16-xtech&diff=0&oldid=16804 * ChristopheDucamp * (-4) Attending -
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Need help. Im about to purchase the microformats book online, i only use paypal, is there any place that accept it? Amazon wont.
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Get Brian Sudas e-book.
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But that isn't really a microformats issue, that is finding a vendor which supports such transactions
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Is someone working on a release notes/version history microformat?
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What sort of parsing rules are in place for the include-pattern when µf A includes µf B which includes µf A?
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- [19:53:50] <cgriego>
tantek/mkaply: What sort of parsing rules are in place for the include-pattern when µf A includes µf B which includes µf A?
- [19:54:57] <mkaply>
cgriego: I'm not sure what the rules are, but that should work in Operator. the way Operator does includes is by cloning the node for the microformat, then searching out the approprate includes and replacing the include nodes with clones of the other nodes.
- [19:55:07] <mkaply>
So it will pretty much grab anything in the document
- [19:55:17] <mkaply>
and since it clones everything, there are no nesting issues
- [19:56:33] <cgriego>
which means by the time it gets to including µf A into µf B, µf A no longer has an include, but instead at that point contains the cloned µf B node? sounds like that would throw an exception.
- [19:57:01] <cgriego>
well no, since it was cloned
- [19:57:05] <mkaply>
exactly
- [19:57:10] <mkaply>
Since everything is cloned, it will work.
- [19:57:21] <mkaply>
it will find the instance in the original document and clone it
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- [19:58:56] <cgriego>
screw ethics, hooray for cloning :)
- [19:59:59] <mkaply>
technically my includes allow anything in the document to be included, whereas the spec says only stuff in other microformats should be included I think.
- [20:00:22] <mkaply>
So you can have a class="fn" on something that isn't even in a microformats and I will find it
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- [20:01:04] <cgriego>
that seems like the smarter way to go
- [20:01:23] <mkaply>
yeah. I've found in practice it works very well. That's how dogster's pages work
- [20:02:09] <cgriego>
How many pages on the net include a site logo that would make sense within an hCard? But that doesn't mean people should have to wrap the logo with an hCard, just give it the logo class and include it.
- [20:04:44] <cgriego>
I think maybe not enough people working on B2B sites are active in the µf community vs working on blogs or community web apps.
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- [20:08:23] <kwijibo>
cgriego: what does µf offer B2B ?
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- [20:10:24] <cgriego>
kwijibo: the same benefits as any other type of site. enable the users of the site to have a more flexible way of using the information the site provides.
- [20:13:14] <kwijibo>
mkaply: doesn't that increase the risk of false positives?
- [20:13:59] <mkaply>
kwijibo: no becaues the include specifies the ID, so the ID is unique within the document
- [20:14:24] <cgriego>
B2B sites often contain contact (hCard) and event (hCalendar) information. They often contain a license for the content (rel-license), though that is almost always a proprietary list of restrictions. They'll contain news and or press releases (hAtom). Also while it's currently somewhat an abuse per the draft spec, they'll contain 'buy now' links that provide a way show or give support for the business (rel-payment).
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