IRC Log for #openid on 2007-09-13

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  18. [03:18:51] <Peng> Peng: ping
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  28. [05:01:51] <openid_pibb> <Kevin Fox> Pong
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  47. [09:45:54] <digitalspaghetti> Does anyone here know how to support veriSign PIP on my OpenID server?
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  51. [11:21:08] <digitalspaghetti> Anyone around?
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  73. [15:04:24] <openid_pibb> <VxJasonxV> digitalspaghetti: You mean delegation?
  74. [15:06:12] <digitalspaghetti> No WxJasonxV, I run my own OpenID server at https://openid.digitalspaghetti.me.uk and I want to add it to the PIP plugin
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  76. [15:09:39] <openid_pibb> <VxJasonxV> oh, you need the seatbelt extension thingers
  77. [15:09:49] <openid_pibb> <VxJasonxV> That's two V's, by the way :P
  78. [15:10:13] <digitalspaghetti> sorry, cos your on Pibb it won't let me tab your name :)
  79. [15:11:13] <openid_pibb> <VxJasonxV> You're welcome to simply call me Jason (but yes, I know how castrated I feel without tab-complete). So anyways, from https://pip.verisignlabs.com/seatbelt.do -> "If you need technical assistance with the SeatBelt, or if you are an OpenID provider and would like more information on enabling the SeatBelt with your site, contact us at support@verisignlabs.com."
  80. [15:12:56] <digitalspaghetti> yea, i've emailed them
  81. [15:13:16] <digitalspaghetti> it's my own personal OpenID server, but i'd like to use their plugin
  82. [15:26:32] <openid_pibb> <VxJasonxV> keturn or some other janrain'er may be able to provide insight, maybe
  83. [15:26:42] <openid_pibb> <VxJasonxV> assuming there's no unique key stuff in the seatbelt extensions
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  87. [15:49:46] <keturn> I don't know much about adding things to that plugin, no.
  88. [15:51:01] <trel1023> if you're a provider - the biggest thing is getting the code from verisign, getting your certs in order, and then adding a couple endpoints to your code/site - you don't have to add anything to the plugin directly
  89. [15:51:16] <trel1023> unless you're asking to be a default provider in their distributed codebase
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  91. [15:54:43] <digitalspaghetti> well i self cert because i don't really want to pay for a cert, and it's really for my own use
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  93. [15:58:52] <digitalspaghetti> ahh brilliant, verisign got back to me quickly
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  95. [16:06:36] <digitalspaghetti> On my openID server, where is the server root url? it's not in config.php
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  97. [16:07:32] <digitalspaghetti> i.e. my server was at http://, i've moved it to https:// but when I click Log In, it still takes me back to http
  98. [16:09:13] <trel1023> depends on what code you're using
  99. [16:09:14] <trel1023> no idea
  100. [16:09:24] <trel1023> could be hardcoded
  101. [16:09:28] <trel1023> if you're using someone else's code
  102. [16:09:49] <trel1023> lots of those example servers aren't very robust
  103. [16:10:03] <trel1023> just cobbled together by someone scratching their own itch - very young tech here
  104. [16:10:58] <digitalspaghetti> i'm using teh JanRain 1.2.3 OpenID lib and PHP Standalone Server 1.1
  105. [16:11:35] <trel1023> yeah, not sure about that then - haven't used the php code
  106. [16:11:42] <trel1023> i'm sure the lib supports the https
  107. [16:11:46] <trel1023> not sure about the 'standalone'
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  109. [16:21:17] <digitalspaghetti> in the config for seatbelt, there is this line:
  110. [16:21:19] <digitalspaghetti> <loginStateUrl>https://name.com/RPInterface</loginStateUrl>
  111. [16:23:06] <digitalspaghetti> what's that on teh server?
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  113. [16:29:32] <trel1023> you have to create it
  114. [16:29:47] <trel1023> the rest of the documentation explains what it should 'output'
  115. [16:32:11] <digitalspaghetti> it says it should be a <personaConfig> generated by the server already
  116. [16:35:35] <digitalspaghetti> i notice when i got here: https://openid.digitalspaghetti.me.uk/index.php/xrds?user=digitalspaghetti i get an HTML page, should this not be a XML file
  117. [16:35:36] <digitalspaghetti> ?
  118. [16:35:46] <digitalspaghetti> i assume this where i need to code it
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  120. [16:39:55] <digitalspaghetti> ahh, i see
  121. [16:40:07] <digitalspaghetti> i need to get a sha1 hash of my .key file
  122. [16:40:23] <digitalspaghetti> .crt file even
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  125. [16:54:17] <openid_pibb> <cygnus> https://openid.digitalspaghetti.me.uk/?xrds=digitalspaghetti is the correct XRDS URL
  126. [16:54:27] <openid_pibb> <cygnus> if you got the other URL from the app, that's a bug
  127. [17:01:18] <digitalspaghetti> cygnus - i see what it is now, it's not XRDS they want, it's a custom XML
  128. [17:01:59] <openid_pibb> <cygnus> cool.
  129. [17:02:20] <openid_pibb> <cygnus> in that case, you need to add a function somewhere and register it in handlers.php
  130. [17:02:26] <digitalspaghetti> basically, it gives the PIP toobar my identity
  131. [17:02:31] <digitalspaghetti> yep
  132. [17:02:40] <digitalspaghetti> i've not really got time for that tonight
  133. [17:03:43] <digitalspaghetti> Once i've done it, i'll probably write a blog about it
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  135. [17:14:10] <digitalspaghetti> i'm thinking of re-writing the server in cakephp anyway
  136. [17:14:22] <digitalspaghetti> i haven't decided yet....anyway, i need to head off
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  142. [17:42:59] <digitalspaghetti> there is a php implementation of spec 2, yea?
  143. [17:43:22] <digitalspaghetti> oh wait, course there is I had downloaded it :p
  144. [17:44:43] <digitalspaghetti> there doesn't seem to be any openid 2 php servers though
  145. [17:45:00] <digitalspaghetti> so yea, I think I'll write my own :)
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  147. [17:54:20] <openid_pibb> <cygnus> Well, the library provides the OpenID 2 server core logic. The standalone server as it currently sits can be upgraded to use the OpenID 2 library easily, although it won't take full advantage of OpenID 2 without significant modification.
  148. [17:54:52] <openid_pibb> <cygnus> Truth be told, there are more solid OpenID 2 server platforms; I highly recommend the python library.
  149. [17:55:20] <digitalspaghetti> yea, I have to admit using frameworks has spoiled me, and my raw php isn't has hot now, because frameworks make you lazy :)
  150. [17:56:36] <digitalspaghetti> I want to try avoid python, I'm low on memory on my server as it is
  151. [17:58:01] <openid_pibb> <cygnus> Python is not memory-intensive.
  152. [17:58:12] <digitalspaghetti> plus, the best way to learn about something isn't to read about it, its to implement it :)
  153. [17:58:40] <digitalspaghetti> I've been looking for a project to do in cakephp that's not a cms
  154. [18:00:39] <digitalspaghetti> (Oh and I don't know python, haven't used it since 2002)
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  167. [18:53:30] <jibot> don-o is in Portland, Or USA and likes to blog at http://www.livejournal.com/users/doncam
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  173. [19:23:04] <jibot> Skwid_ is cool
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  177. [20:02:08] <melvster_> hi all
  178. [20:02:28] <digitalspaghetti> hi
  179. [20:02:49] <melvster_> how's things?
  180. [20:04:00] <melvster_> just got my chatzilla working
  181. [20:04:22] <melvster_> know what the plans are for openid 2?
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  189. [21:07:55] <gchaix> Greetings ... does anyone here have any experience with OpenID and .NET? I'm working with someone who wants to add an OpenID consumer to a Sharepoint 2007 server, but I've never done anything with .NET.
  190. [21:10:52] <openid_pibb> <Kevin Fox> there may be asp implementations of OpenID out there... not sure though
  191. [21:11:13] <openid_pibb> <Kevin Fox> or if that would even help
  192. [21:12:50] <gchaix> Yeah. I'd heard that there was some .NET code out there, but I hadn't heard of anyone actually *using* it :-)
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  194. [21:17:26] <_keturn> I guess some people use .net. At least, _someone_ made outraged noises that we asked people to take OpenID seriously before there was a C# implementation available.
  195. [21:18:34] * gchaix shugs
  196. [21:19:36] <gchaix> I could care less, but I'd love to get these guys to set up their Sharepoint box to work like the rest of the stuff we're running on the project (i.e. Drupal, etc.)
  197. [21:20:45] <gchaix> Well, they're motivated and talented, so hopefully they can figure it out :-)
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  202. [21:57:15] <melvster_> openid on .net ... would love to see that
  203. [22:01:00] <_keturn> http://code.google.com/p/dotnetopenid/
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  205. [22:05:10] <melvster_> wow - cool!
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  207. [22:06:34] <melvster_> quite a bit of code there for that beta
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  209. [22:10:28] <gchaix> _keturn: Thanks. I'd missed that one. I'll forward it on to the .Net guys
  210. [22:11:33] <_keturn> that's the most active one I know of
  211. [22:12:32] <melvster_> a few links here too:
  212. [22:12:34] <melvster_> http://openid.net/wiki/index.php/Libraries
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  216. [22:17:02] <don-o> anyone looked at oauth.org?
  217. [22:19:45] <melvster_> yes
  218. [22:20:09] <_keturn> http://www.hueniverse.com/hueniverse/2007/09/oauth-therapy.html ?
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  220. [22:26:19] <melvster_> re oauth:
  221. [22:26:23] <melvster_> If you are a web developer – you, we hope. At the time of writing this, we expect initial implementations from (in alphabetical order) Digg, Jaiku, Flickr, Ma.gnolia, Plaxo, Pownce, Twitter, and hopefully Google, Yahoo, and others soon to follow.
  222. [22:27:06] <melvster_> an impressive list
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  230. [23:39:06] <don-o> the google groups is members-only and most any link off the front page gives a mephisto error :(
  231. [23:40:23] <_keturn> there's an #oauth channel, in which people will tell you how crazy the mailing list traffic is.
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