IRC Log for #openid on 2008-01-07

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  3. [00:23:02] <donomo> the ruby gem has some example code for AX
  4. [00:23:11] <donomo> but i dont know whats in the wild.
  5. [00:23:24] <donomo> simplereg was enough for my purposes
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  9. [00:43:17] <pisi> AX seems to allow a lot of funky stuff but i don't know any public site or service or concept I could test..
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  12. [00:59:23] <donomo> i would expect myopenid.com to support it
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  21. [01:32:32] <PibbRelay> <hugepaw> anyone around for some quick help with myopenid?
  22. [01:36:53] <PibbRelay> <Blueberry> Sure
  23. [01:37:20] <PibbRelay> <hugepaw> Thanks. Nice horse. OK, here's my problem.
  24. [01:37:44] <PibbRelay> <Blueberry> Well, I do try to be nice! ^_^
  25. [01:38:09] <PibbRelay> <hugepaw> I go to live journal, enter the myopenid url and try to post my comment
  26. [01:38:21] <PibbRelay> <hugepaw> (A very witty one)
  27. [01:38:45] <PibbRelay> <hugepaw> the myopenid page appears. Here's what it says:
  28. [01:38:46] <PibbRelay> <Blueberry> rightyo, then what happens?
  29. [01:38:57] <PibbRelay> <hugepaw> OpenID Verification
  30. [01:39:37] <PibbRelay> <hugepaw> A site identifying itself as http://www.livejournal.com has asked us for confirmation that http://tos.myopenid.com/ is your identity URL
  31. [01:39:49] <PibbRelay> <hugepaw> but
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  34. [01:40:25] <PibbRelay> <hugepaw> there's no button to click, no place to enter a password, nothing. It recognizes me - my url is sitting in the upper right
  35. [01:40:50] <PibbRelay> <hugepaw> So I'm stuck at that screen with no way forward
  36. [01:41:03] <PibbRelay> <hugepaw> Now what?
  37. [01:41:14] <PibbRelay> <Blueberry> Hmm, usually there would be buttons labeled something like "Allow Forever, Allow Once, Deny Once"
  38. [01:41:27] <PibbRelay> <hugepaw> That would be helpful.
  39. [01:42:54] <PibbRelay> <Blueberry> have you tried it with any other sites?
  40. [01:43:06] <PibbRelay> <hugepaw> Where are they usually? under the blurb I posted above? There's some open space there.
  41. [01:43:18] <PibbRelay> <Blueberry> yes, thats where they should be
  42. [01:43:31] <PibbRelay> <Blueberry> some useful info would be the myopenid username you tried to use, the web browser you
  43. [01:43:43] <PibbRelay> <Blueberry> you're using, and maybe the page you tried to submit a comment on
  44. [01:44:11] <PibbRelay> <hugepaw> but panning the pointer through doesn't yeild any changes to a hand.
  45. [01:44:24] <PibbRelay> <hugepaw> working...
  46. [01:44:25] <PibbRelay> <Blueberry> changes? why would it make changes if there's no buttons there for you?
  47. [01:44:50] <idnar> well, it's possible the buttons are there, just not visible; but if the mouse cursor doesn't change, then probably not
  48. [01:44:56] <idnar> (or maybe they are there, but have zero size)
  49. [01:45:09] <PibbRelay> <hugepaw> http://users.livejournal.com/_nessa_lykke_/
  50. [01:45:24] <PibbRelay> <Blueberry> buttons don't usually cause a mouse cursor change, they're buttons, not links
  51. [01:45:48] <PibbRelay> <Blueberry> you could try resizing your browser window slightly to make sure it's not a browser rendering glitch
  52. [01:46:34] <PibbRelay> <hugepaw> (idnar, thanks - if I knew where the buttons were supposed to be, and which one was the alow forever (like middle or leftmost) I'd be fine
  53. [01:46:59] <PibbRelay> <hugepaw> ok, BB
  54. [01:47:12] <idnar> which browser are you using?
  55. [01:47:24] <PibbRelay> <hugepaw> also when I highlight the page nothing shows
  56. [01:48:43] <PibbRelay> <Blueberry> If the buttons aren't there, I don't see how highlighting stuff and floating your mouse around and so forth would help
  57. [01:49:18] <PibbRelay> <hugepaw> ie 7, win xp, url http://tos.myopenid.com/
  58. [01:50:26] <PibbRelay> <hugepaw> maybe not, but when i hover over the post button here the cursor changes. it was just a thought. if it doesn't work, no animals were harmed...
  59. [01:51:51] <PibbRelay> <Blueberry> yes, but the Post button here is in fact not a button
  60. [01:52:01] <PibbRelay> <keturn> Huh. There's nothing there that shouldn't work in IE7. Have you made any language settings on myOpenID?
  61. [01:52:14] <PibbRelay> <Blueberry> it's a text link, but instead of text, they put an image that looks an aweful lot like a button inside the text link
  62. [01:52:16] <PibbRelay> <hugepaw> BB - not there, yes, not visible, another story. I think I provided everything - if not, let me know
  63. [01:52:27] <PibbRelay> <Blueberry> real buttons don't create a different mouse cursor
  64. [01:52:50] <PibbRelay> <hugepaw> see, (BB) I forgot my magic glasses! :)
  65. [01:54:24] <PibbRelay> <hugepaw> Well, since I don't have them I figured I'd desperately grasp as straws. It was a very witty comment and I'd hate to lose it. I may go back nd see if I
  66. [01:54:47] <PibbRelay> <hugepaw> it comes up and I can copy it :)
  67. [01:55:09] <PibbRelay> <hugepaw> Keturn - no
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  69. [01:55:33] <PibbRelay> <hugepaw> (Thanks for asking)
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  71. [01:55:45] <PibbRelay> <Blueberry> (Keturn is more likely to have a clue than some random horse)
  72. [01:59:40] <PibbRelay> <Blueberry> Hmm, I was wrong about the Post button in pibb, but it still isn't a real button
  73. [02:03:09] <PibbRelay> <keturn> The page is supposed to look like this: &lt;a target='_blank' href='http://img184.imageshack.us/my.php?image=trustpagehh7.png'&gt;&lt;img src='http://img184.imageshack.us/img184/8254/http://img184.imageshack.us/img184/8254/trustpagehh7.th.png' border='0'/&gt;&lt;/a&gt; Are there any other elements missing?&nbsp; i.e. the menu bar on the right or the footer?
  74. [02:03:20] <PibbRelay> <hugepaw> Anyone still here?
  75. [02:04:08] <PibbRelay> <hugepaw> ok, I guess I wasn't at the bottom of the page. Let me check thoselinks
  76. [02:05:49] <PibbRelay> <hugepaw> OH! That's lovely. Where you have 2 green lines in the middle of the box, I only have one. And the lower portion is empty
  77. [02:06:46] <PibbRelay> <hugepaw> and when I refresh the page it stays the same
  78. [02:07:20] <PibbRelay> <hugepaw> If this werw IRC I'd say we were lagged
  79. [02:07:31] <PibbRelay> <hugepaw> The blue "your account is there
  80. [02:08:19] <PibbRelay> <hugepaw> everything else, too. just not the part that "works"
  81. [02:10:11] <PibbRelay> <hugepaw> I tried clicking where the buttons should be, but no luck. (I Know, BB, but it was worth a try...)
  82. [02:11:09] <PibbRelay> <Blueberry> (no, it really wasn't)
  83. [02:11:20] <PibbRelay> <keturn> ** keturn installs IE
  84. [02:11:32] <PibbRelay> <hugepaw> resizing, refreshing - no help. I may start over if I can recreate the post.
  85. [02:11:56] <PibbRelay> <hugepaw> Wow! You're going all out!
  86. [02:13:50] <PibbRelay> <keturn> well, I should have it here anyway. But it will be IE6, and no .NET 3.5, but ...
  87. [02:15:53] <PibbRelay> <keturn> awesome, the buttons don't show up in IE6 either
  88. [02:16:33] <PibbRelay> <hugepaw> (BB I thought you tried to be nice! I'm desperate here :)
  89. [02:17:10] <PibbRelay> <keturn> oh, I wonder ...
  90. [02:18:43] <PibbRelay> <hugepaw> Keturn - do I get a parade in my honor?
  91. [02:18:50] <PibbRelay> <Blueberry> desperate? can't you just comment anonymously for this moment?
  92. [02:19:39] <PibbRelay> <keturn> hugepaw: is this the first time you've signed in anywhere with that myOpenID account?
  93. [02:25:28] <PibbRelay> <hugepaw> brb
  94. [02:25:41] <PibbRelay> <hugepaw> yes
  95. [02:26:18] <PibbRelay> <hugepaw> hmmm - your comments here don't update unless I type something in. Maybe I'm cursed!
  96. [02:26:30] <PibbRelay> <keturn> yeah. when I signed out of myOpenID and signed in again, it seemed to be okay. So I think it's a new-account bug, not an IE bug.
  97. [02:26:43] <PibbRelay> <keturn> you are cursed, you don't show up as "online" to the rest of us.
  98. [02:26:54] <PibbRelay> <hugepaw> I created the acct to be able to post on that page
  99. [02:27:17] <PibbRelay> <hugepaw> AAARRRRGH! I'm a vampire!
  100. [02:27:31] <PibbRelay> <hugepaw> weird
  101. [02:27:42] <PibbRelay> <hugepaw> I'm not used to being buggy.
  102. [02:28:23] <PibbRelay> <Blueberry> hugepaw, there used to be an issue in safari with that bug
  103. [02:28:36] <PibbRelay> <hugepaw> let me try
  104. [02:28:37] <PibbRelay> <Blueberry> can you see anyone logged in in the "Logged In Users" list to the right?
  105. [02:29:15] <PibbRelay> <hugepaw> BB - so it's all just a "big game" to you, hmmmmm?
  106. [02:29:16] <PibbRelay> <Blueberry> sounds like weird hex pibb subdomain's strike again
  107. [02:29:27] <PibbRelay> <hugepaw> BB - no
  108. [02:29:38] <PibbRelay> <keturn> so, yeah, I'd try signing out and in to myOpenID again. but I hope you've found a way to copy your comment because I'm not sure if it'll survive that.
  109. [02:30:15] <PibbRelay> <hugepaw> BB - safari and MYOPID or PIBB?
  110. [02:30:17] <PibbRelay> <Blueberry> janrain did something a bit naughty to work around a limit browser makers intentionally had coded in to their browsers (darn those janrain hackers!) and sometimes it seems to break, and what you're seeing is the result
  111. [02:30:18] <PibbRelay> <Blueberry> and pibb
  112. [02:30:26] <PibbRelay> <Blueberry> myopenid generally is incredibly stable and reliable from my experience
  113. [02:30:28] <PibbRelay> <hugepaw> the comment was lost but I recreated it
  114. [02:30:48] <PibbRelay> <hugepaw> and posted it "anomalously"
  115. [02:35:28] <PibbRelay> <hugepaw> working...
  116. [02:35:29] <PibbRelay> <hugepaw> It worked!!
  117. [02:35:33] <PibbRelay> <Blueberry> yay!
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  119. [02:36:44] <PibbRelay> <hugepaw> but it's not as cool as I had hoped. I wish it would just leave a username instead of a url.
  120. [02:37:21] <PibbRelay> <hugepaw> Thanks for your help (and, BB, derision!)
  121. [02:38:07] <PibbRelay> <Blueberry> you're mean :(
  122. [02:39:28] <PibbRelay> <hugepaw> .
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  125. [02:42:26] <PibbRelay> <hugepaw> nice horsey. You're just not old enough to understand about those buttons and the work and hours it takes to regain them if you don't find some way of pushing them. All those things are valid strategies in some circumstances. If you can't see 'em, you don't know what type of programming element they are.
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  128. [02:43:56] <PibbRelay> <hugepaw> .
  129. [02:44:22] <PibbRelay> <hugepaw> .
  130. [02:44:36] <PibbRelay> <hugepaw> good night!
  131. [02:45:19] <PibbRelay> <hugepaw> .
  132. [02:46:11] <PibbRelay> <Blueberry> nini
  133. [03:00:42] <dynamo> hmmm
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  144. [06:17:26] <PibbRelay> <mpg4> the new account bug is fixed on our development server.
  145. [06:35:17] <PibbRelay> <keturn> we'll have to pay you overtime for that one.
  146. [06:40:37] <PibbRelay> <mpg4> you can take it out of the paycheck of the developer that introduced the bug!
  147. [06:41:00] <PibbRelay> <mpg4> ** mpg4 will break even on that one...
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