IRC Log for #openid on 2008-01-09

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  10. [02:18:43] <flaccid> keturn, hmmm ok thanks for your input
  11. [02:23:09] <flaccid> keturn, do you see any caveats in doing it this way?
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  14. [02:44:05] <flaccid> has anyone got the examples/server going from the php openid source ? i have errors like atal error</b>: Call to a member function init() on a non-object i
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  38. [05:13:18] <flaccid> hey guys im trying to develop a php openid server!
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  56. [08:22:23] <p33r_> flaccid: how's it goin'? :P
  57. [08:22:57] <flaccid> lol
  58. [08:23:09] <p33r_> (yeah, i'm still here, sue me :P)
  59. [08:23:17] <flaccid> can't get lib v2 to work with the standalone so going with example from the v2 lib examples/server
  60. [08:23:20] <flaccid> haha
  61. [08:23:31] <p33r_> ah, fun times
  62. [08:23:41] <p33r_> getting any way? :P
  63. [08:23:43] <flaccid> but i need to upgrade my server to have GMP support as it times out on bcmath after 30seconds
  64. [08:23:58] <flaccid> not going too bad gotta fix up server then try again
  65. [08:26:37] <flaccid> its going to be scary when i reboot again
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  68. [08:40:39] <Makenshi> Does anyone know how to get in contact with the maintainer of xmpp.za.net? Mails to their listed email address bounce.
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  132. [21:12:43] <bcardarella> If I wanted to exchange complex data from the OpenID server to a client website when a user first registers would it be best to use Attribute Exchange?
  133. [21:13:38] <donomo> bcardarella: AX is the new way but simplereg i find to be simpler.
  134. [21:14:58] <bcardarella> donomo: I've been looking at SReg and it seems almost too simple. The data I'm looking to send is pretty complicated
  135. [21:15:09] <donomo> you have an opportunity to get attributes at every login, not just the first.
  136. [21:15:31] <bcardarella> So AX is only done for the initial login?
  137. [21:15:31] <donomo> oh well then it sounds like you know the answer to your question :)
  138. [21:16:03] <donomo> im not that familiar with AX but im pretty sure you can request attributes at every login.
  139. [21:16:31] <PibbRelay> <cygnus> bcardarella, sreg was intended to be really simple and easy, while satisfying most use cases. AX is the most flexible way to go for anything more complicated.
  140. [21:17:04] <PibbRelay> <mpg4> I would go with AX, or arrange to have the data available at the identity URL in something like hCard
  141. [21:17:30] <PibbRelay> <mpg4> (dunno how much control you have over your clients...)
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  143. [21:17:30] <jibot> cygnus is WorkerBee(name="Jonathan Daugherty", company="JanRain, Inc.")
  144. [21:17:31] <bcardarella> Okay, cool. Does anybody know if the 2.x.x ruby AX library is complete? I'm looking at the API for the ruby gem's AX implementation and it seems pretty thin
  145. [21:18:14] <bcardarella> And is AX strictly a OpenID 2.0 thing?
  146. [21:19:09] <cygnus> bcardarella: yes.
  147. [21:19:43] <donomo> bcardarella: i started to use the AX stuff in the gem but punted back to simplereg. im not sure how complete it is but i would guess its functional.
  148. [21:20:11] <cygnus> the implementation should completely implement AX version 1.0.
  149. [21:20:43] <donomo> haha. nice to have you here in non-pibb-relay form :)
  150. [21:21:01] * cygnus bows
  151. [21:21:16] <cygnus> also, the rails demo code doesn't use the AX module, but we should update it to do that.
  152. [21:23:50] <cygnus> http://trac.openidenabled.com/trac/ticket/101
  153. [21:26:07] <keturn> I have reservations about making the example use every extension available; it detracts some from demonstrating basic usage. Perhaps we can figure out some way to clearly separate them.
  154. [21:27:11] <cygnus> yeah
  155. [21:28:02] <cygnus> better documentation in each of the extension modules would help; e.g., example code in docstrings.
  156. [21:28:19] <cygnus> but I think it's important to do at least that much for every extension that the openidenabled.com libraries implement
  157. [21:28:36] <cygnus> particularly AX vs. sreg, since it needs to be obvious when to use which
  158. [21:29:30] <bcardarella> I'm going to play around with the gem and AX for the new week or so. I'll try to develop an example app and send it your way.
  159. [21:30:53] <cygnus> great! If you run into any problems, I think the best way to get them in front of those of us who work on the library would be to post to the dev list, http://xrl.us/vmtm
  160. [21:31:06] <bcardarella> It would seem that the example rails app could just have a separate checkbox for the consumer view to do a AX request
  161. [21:31:40] <bcardarella> and rename the current registration checkbox as a SReg request
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