IRC Log for #openid on 2008-01-11
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- [10:58:20] <Spads>
I'm trying to use the mod_python plugin at http://j3h.janrain.com/mpopenid/ which seems to be a prerelease of version 1.2. Are there actual releases out anywhere I can find?
- [10:59:34] <Spads>
The link to the openidenabled.com page seems to be broken
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- [14:38:44] <Spads>
is mpopenid abandoned?
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- [14:39:48] <Spads>
it seems to be api-incompatible with the python openid library 2.0
- [14:42:23] <Spads>
http://rbach.priv.at/OpenID-IRC/2007-01-02#T215106 <-- essentially, I'm seeing behavior like that
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evanpro is Evan Prodromou, info at http://wikitravel.org/en/User:Evan
- [15:30:02] <Spads>
evanpro: Hi, asl.
- [15:31:28] <Spads>
evanpro: hey, do you know offhand if the mpopenid project has been abandoned or folded into something else? I've been fiddling with it and suspect it may be API-incompatible with the current python openid library
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- [16:00:36] <evanpro>
Spads: mpopenid?
- [16:00:41] <evanpro>
I don't know
- [16:01:34] <evanpro>
What does that stand for?
- [16:01:48] <Spads>
it's the mod_python openid thing for apache
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- [16:02:09] <evanpro>
Oh, mod_python
- [16:02:11] <evanpro>
I get it
- [16:02:25] <evanpro>
danbri: happy belated birthday
- [16:02:25] <Spads>
http://j3h.janrain.com/mpopenid/
- [16:02:45] <Spads>
seems to have been frozen at 1.2.0-pre5
- [16:03:31] <evanpro>
a lot of the openidenabled projects got rolled over to the Apache incubator
- [16:03:55] <evanpro>
Which is of course not named "Apache OpenID Stuff"
- [16:04:05] <danbri>
why thank you :)
- [16:04:12] <danbri>
didn't the apache thing get closed?
- [16:04:13] <evanpro>
http://incubator.apache.org/projects/heraldry.html
- [16:04:17] <Spads>
"incubator" eh
- [16:04:22] <danbri>
yeah it died
- [16:04:46] <danbri>
"Project retired. Some activity has moved to http://openid.net/. Any other forks and code moves will also be announced here." :(
- [16:04:52] <evanpro>
Yeah, I knew there wasn't much there
- [16:05:09] <evanpro>
I just thought the mod_pythong thing might have spent a little more time there
- [16:05:17] <danbri>
i'm enjoying having openid extension on my wordpress blog btw :)
- [16:05:37] <danbri>
what's the state of play with attribute exchange? is it getting used much for user profiles?
- [16:05:41] <evanpro>
Spads: do you have j3h's direct email address? That's probably the best way to find out
- [16:05:51] <evanpro>
danbri: no idea
- [16:05:53] <evanpro>
My guess is no
- [16:05:57] <danbri>
I lean more towards microformats and/or foaf in a normal webpage, and delegate to openid purely for auth
- [16:05:58] <Spads>
yeah, I think we do. We'll try that next
- [16:06:00] <danbri>
as in danbri.org
- [16:06:35] <evanpro>
There's so little OpenID-2.0-enabled client software out there
- [16:06:41] <evanpro>
But sreg is still the main way to use it
- [16:06:50] <evanpro>
s/use it/exchange attributes/
- [16:08:06] <evanpro>
Jeez
- [16:08:10] <evanpro>
Kinda imprecise there
- [16:08:22] <Spads>
NOT ENOUGH HURF BURF
- [16:08:59] <evanpro>
Spads: so what are you using the libs for? Personal or professional?
- [16:09:26] <Spads>
professional
- [16:09:43] <evanpro>
Cool!
- [16:10:49] <Spads>
I'm not yet particularly familiar with the underlying architecture, so I've been relying mostly on pre-written systems.
- [16:12:55] <evanpro>
Yeah, the actual protocol is pretty tedious
- [16:13:01] <evanpro>
I just use the openidenabled.com libraries
- [16:13:11] <evanpro>
They're all pretty good, and cover the spec pretty well
- [16:13:41] <Spads>
the problem is that right now the two big options for generic apache security are the mod_python one and a C++ apache module that makes my ears bleed
- [16:13:55] <danbri>
some neat things here btw - http://apassant.net/blog/tag/wp-openid/
- [16:13:58] <Spads>
(largely because I end up having to backport it to dapper)
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- [16:16:05] <evanpro>
oh
- [16:16:30] <evanpro>
that's interesting, going for the Webserver-level security rather than app-level
- [16:16:34] <Spads>
I'm just looking to completely be rid of htpasswd
- [16:16:48] <Spads>
yeah, app-level is a separate battle
- [16:17:53] <evanpro>
OK, I have to go make coffee
- [16:18:08] <Spads>
we have a coffee robot in this office
- [16:18:10] <evanpro>
I haven't seen the Web server tools in action
- [16:18:22] <Spads>
it grinds, brews, pours, and cleans
- [16:18:53] <danbri>
do you think we can expect to see openid and oauth toolkits bundled and integrated? or their use cases are sufficiently different?
- [16:20:18] <Spads>
evanpro: also some apps will accept http basic info and use that. Moin for instance.
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heya all
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- [17:16:53] <keturn>
Spads: I think j3h got somewhat discouraged about mpopenid. There were some problems and it looked like apache's authorization model really just didn't want to do the things he was trying to get it to do.
- [17:17:32] <keturn>
but you can poke him about it
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- [17:18:34] <Spads>
thanks
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- [22:32:41] <jibot>
Dmcdevit is Dominic and goes to Reed College in Portland, OR
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- [23:37:57] <zapnap>
openid won't work with my development host being localhost, correct? it needs to identify the caller url (be able to reach it)?
- [23:39:11] <_keturn>
the RP needs to be able to reach the provider. The provider doesn't necessarily need to be able to reach the RP. So it depends on what you're developing.
- [23:39:38] <zapnap>
hrmm
- [23:40:03] <zapnap>
well i'm just looking to test login against a remote provider
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- [23:49:01] <Makenshi>
Digg was supposed to be implementing openid.. anyone know what happened?
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- [23:51:51] <_keturn>
for a while I suspect they were waiting for 2.0. but I haven't heard anything else now that 2.0 is out.
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- [23:52:39] <Makenshi>
They were pretty noisey about it earlier last year.. guess they just wanted some publicity
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