IRC Log for #openid on 2008-02-01

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  55. [08:57:07] <sdistefano> hi all
  56. [08:57:39] <sdistefano> for some reason, a static html page served by lighty can work with openid; defining delegate etc
  57. [08:57:56] <sdistefano> and the exact same html, served by django throws an error; no discoverable services
  58. [08:58:00] <sdistefano> anyone's got a clue?
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  71. [11:55:17] <^^Hell_Fire^^> hi:)
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  77. [12:38:25] <flaccid_> any dev's alive for a php discuss?
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  101. [16:40:34] <PibbRelay> <danieljones.org> Does anyone know how to get your site listed in the myopenid.com directory?
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  103. [16:59:18] <Tachyon> Hey, I'm using myOpenID to manage my OpenID, and I'm having trouble commenting on a friend's WordPress blog (he has an OpenID authentication plugin). My OpenID works elsewhere, such as Ma.gnolia. I'm going to try the WordPress help too, but I just wanted to see if anyone else has encountered a similar issue? WordPress tells me that it could not authenticate my OpenID, even after I've...
  104. [16:59:19] <Tachyon> ...authorized the site on myOpenID
  105. [17:00:17] <PibbRelay> <keturn> danieljones: send us a note at support@myopenid.com
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  110. [17:40:32] <PibbRelay> <danieljones> Thanks. Yahoo suggests that web sites "manage a user's attached OpenIDs". I simply create a new account for users that log in for the first time with OpenID.
  111. [17:43:53] <PibbRelay> <danieljones> I don't think that the average user is going to want to log in with multiple OpenIDs.
  112. [17:44:36] <PibbRelay> <danieljones> Or if they do, they don't want the site to know that they are the same user.
  113. [17:46:11] <PibbRelay> <danieljones> I suppose you have to handle the case where a user already has an account, but wants to switch over to OpenID.
  114. [17:46:22] <PibbRelay> <keturn> it's not infeasible. With the number of different providers offering OpenIDs now, it's likely enough that a user will have more than one OpenID. And attaching more than one OpenID to an account provides some robustness in case you lose one.
  115. [17:47:34] <PibbRelay> <keturn> Since one of the biggest criticisms of OpenID is "OMG single point of failure," it is recommended practice to at least give users that option.
  116. [17:48:04] <GabeW> I agree with keturn
  117. [17:48:48] <PibbRelay> <ozamosi> It's also possible that the user uses their livejournal account, since it's already there, realize openid is cool, but that livejournal doesn't auto submit nickname like myopenid does, and therefor wants to change provider, without loosing all their accounts.
  118. [17:49:08] <PibbRelay> <ozamosi> (exactly this has happened to a friend of mine)
  119. [17:49:09] <PibbRelay> <danieljones> That makes sense.
  120. [17:50:25] <GabeW> yah, its more about migration than alternating
  121. [17:50:43] <PibbRelay> <danieljones> I noticed that myopenid submits the nickname. How do you handle nickname clashes?
  122. [17:55:58] <PibbRelay> <ozamosi> Pibb doesn't
  123. [17:56:19] <PibbRelay> <ozamosi> If two users by accident has the same nick, the usually have different avatars.
  124. [17:57:33] <PibbRelay> <ozamosi> Apparently, the next version will make the actual OpenID identifier more visible, to protect against malicious users trying to imitate others.
  125. [17:59:55] <PibbRelay> <ozamosi> As for other sites... It's no more difficult to make sure the nick is unique if it's using openid, than if it isn't.
  126. [18:02:47] <PibbRelay> <danieljones> Does myopenid make the avatar image accessible?
  127. [18:04:12] <PibbRelay> <ozamosi> I guess it's retrievable through attribution exchange somehow, but I haven't checked.
  128. [18:08:04] <PibbRelay> <danieljones> Is there any documentation available that is a little bit higher level than the OpenID spec?
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  130. [18:12:06] <PibbRelay> <danieljones> Yes, I know about google:) thanks for the info
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  132. [18:16:28] <PibbRelay> <danieljones> http://wiki.openid.net/Introduction
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  134. [18:54:52] <PibbRelay> <keturn> if the user has chosen to publish their avatar image on their public profile page, it's accessible as a pavatar. There really ought to be a way to ask for one through AX as well, but I don't know what the schema is for that offhand. (or if there is one yet.)
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  137. [19:11:51] <PibbRelay> <ozamosi> Do you know if any other openid providers has avatar images as pavatars?
  138. [19:23:07] <PibbRelay> <keturn> I expect ClaimID does. I don't remember what other providers have avatars.
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  140. [19:42:25] <PibbRelay> <ozamosi> Actually, it seems ClaimID only make the avatar avalible through hcard.
  141. [19:45:41] <PibbRelay> <ozamosi> But if I implement favatars, gravatars, pavatars, every-other-leter-combination-avatars, and a hcard parser, it's almost, but not completely, unlikely that the avatar will automagically just be there for a user or two...
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  144. [20:24:51] <donomo> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LabCylbapuM
  145. [20:25:06] <donomo> Brad Fitzpatrick introducing google's Social Graph API
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  147. [20:51:30] <forsaken> thats badass :)
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  149. [21:58:30] <_keturn> Wishlist item for OpenID 3.0 from the specs list: "Not allowing an OpenID to be a vector for SQL Injection and putting something around what it should look like.
  150. [21:59:08] <_keturn> ...say what?
  151. [22:00:15] <johill> I don't even understand the sentence
  152. [22:00:43] <johill> sql injections come from using the wrong programming language/paradigm not openids ;)
  153. [22:01:43] <idnar> ugh, that sounds awful
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